Dear Mirjana, Dear colleagues, I was working through our recent LatinGP emails, since I managed to dedicate a bit more time. I saw that you had recreated - from scratch - some files, I had worked on earlier and which I had originally shared with the group too. This has led to a situation where we now have doubled resource documents, and my original edits as suggestion for changes became ended up in a fork, which was not the one shared with the group in your most recent emails. I would suggest that we reunite the different forks, and continue working on the documents I had edited and worked on earlier. Particularly the file/google docs document "Latin part of MSR2 with attestations v5 <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tu_WfZ2OAYmzUMmU3Ys9pxPafd_YQ35XBCNUpYVy...>" is a fork based on original work by Chris, which I had worked on quite a bit in 2016 since the last edits by Chris, and Scott Emblen-Jarrett had also made some edits, however I had also merged this document with the document currently entitled "01-LanguagesAZ-EGIDS-3-4 <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IVZvFVSjkxo4cj-r79j1CzMWLkalj7-19qBA5X0j...>", which I had added as a separate sheet entitled "Language Data <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FX5XEuqU2g5-pVr6rWLRhE3KiE4JxT8Kd70I...>", to allow for cross-referencing within the same document. Originally, I had shared my Google Docs import with the group in an email dated June 08, 2016, and I have quoted the text below: Dear colleagues,
since Chris has left us I thought it was a good moment to try and transfer our work into a form which is better suited for collaboration. I for one was having problems with the Word files, which were very slow and kept crashing for me, plus keeping the versions apart was confusing to me. Accordingly, when I found some time to continue the review of the list codepoints I had promised earlier, I took the time to convert it into a Google Docs Spreadsheets documents, which is like an Excel file but stored in the cloud and it can be edited in the browser. All changes are tracked and saved automatically, so ideally we can stop worrying about version control. I am still in the progress of walking through the list of codepoints. However I'm sharing it with you now so we can continue collaborating on it while I go on with my own review. We can always export the work from their back to an Excel or any other spreadsheet file (including all earlier versions under automatic version control) should the need arise. It offers nearly all other features of Excel, including features such as comments and highlights we all know from Word. You can access the document from any browser using this link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FX5XEuqU2g5-pVr6rWLR hE3KiE4JxT8Kd70I6jlMSBU/edit?usp=sharing If you have any Google Account it would be good to access the document while you are logged in, so we could all understand who made comments and changes, however it is not necessary for access. Please let me know if you have any Google (Apps) account so I could invited you directly to edit and take ownership of the document (currently it is associated with my own Google account) so it will become accessible to all LGP members and so we could share the administration of our repository of documents also in the future. Similarly and again for the sake of simplicity of collaboration, I plan to transfer the draft for the actual proposal from Word into a Google Docs Text document. I hope this will prove helpful and enable us to collaborate easier and make some progress, even during our transitioning period from one chair to another (set of) chairs. I'll look forward to any comments either on the conversion process or the documents themselves. Best wishes, Meikal
The link to the file is still the same. I believe that my version of the list of MSR-2 codepoints relevant to Latin in the shared document entitled "Roman/Latin Script LGR Draft <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FX5XEuqU2g5-pVr6rWLRhE3KiE4JxT8Kd70I...>" is more advanced than the re-import in the document entitled "Latin part of MSR2 with attestations v5 <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tu_WfZ2OAYmzUMmU3Ys9pxPafd_YQ35XBCNUpYVy...>" and re-shared again recently by you, however I would suggest we double check, since I don't know which changes you had made in the Word-file form since the last edits by Chris, and you might have re-imported your version on the basis of that Word file. In the case of the document "01-LanguagesAZ-EGIDS-3-4 <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IVZvFVSjkxo4cj-r79j1CzMWLkalj7-19qBA5X0j...>", I had made structural changes and formatting changes mostly in the hope of making it more understandable, however I believe that your recent version features a different list of language (yours is restricted to EGIDS 3-4 and has 86 entries - the one in my revision and based on the work by Chris included EGIDS 5 too occasionally and has 73 entries), so we have to exhibit care to reunite those two forks. Lastly, I had changed the color coding and start documenting them in a third sheet called "Standards & Abbreviations <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FX5XEuqU2g5-pVr6rWLRhE3KiE4JxT8Kd70I...>" - I assume the later could be unified with your document entitled " HowToProcLetInLang <https://docs.google.com/document/d/11f-WaDQuBAj9O9JqHQp-s6t-cWcJjjhHuj3OZ0yh...> ". I would suggest we reunite the different versions and forks, and in order to prevent future version conflicts and end up working on the same resources, I would also suggest to transfer the ownership of the document to you Mirjana, as you have taken over the the chair of LatinGP since. Due to technical restrictions of Google Docs, I cannot transfer the ownership of the document to you Mirjana myself, but from what I gather, it is possible to make a copy of the document to your own account, and then share it by yourself as a new version. The process is described here <http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/67371/transferring-files-across-f...> and I would suggest we follow those steps so that you could re-share those files again. Let me know if you need help with that - we could also resolve that off-list e.g. in a chat or skype call. I really think we need to clean up this versioning and the different forks and keep the ownership centralized, so we don't loose work. Once we have done that, it should make things easier for everybody and relief us from the burden of version control. Whatever road we follow, I believe we will need shared resources, which we can all edit and which we need to put under some form of version control. Putting stuff in actual version control systems such as Git makes it difficult because we are working with binary files, rich formatting, tabular data, and Unicode code points. In ArabGP, for example, we ended up sharing word and excel file using a shared Dropbox, but even there someone needed to manually do the version control and we ended up constantly copying and renaming the documents, e.g. ammending REV- Meikal or REV-Sarmad, or V0.2 to the filename, which worked somehow, but which became cumbersome at some point and someone had to take responsibility in any case. I personally think the Google Docs solution is helpful, and we should continue that way, but if the group is not unified in that regard, we should have that discussion, settle the matter, and stick to any procedure we agree upon. I for one keep loosing track of emails and email attachments. In this regard, I believe it might be useful for us to also have a shared repository where we can put accompanying files - if we stick with the Google Docs solution we could also create a shared Google Drive folder, which contains relevant resources we need for our work - I personally think such a solution is better than a wiki or a website, but that could be a matter of a further discussion we need to have. Sorry for the verbose email, but I'm trying to prevent a loss of work. I hope this is helpful and clear. Best, Meikal