Hi Volker (and Michele), During our debate on CircleID, Jothan Frakes suggested that KnujOn meet with the registrars. I thought this was a good idea and proposed it to Mason Cole of the Registrar Constituency. Some registrars told him they were unwilling to have me come to the upcoming meeting in Cartagena, because we appear to be too combative. It appears to me that you and Michele are not afraid of intense debate (Michele once spoke out at a presentation I gave at RIPE). Are you willing to try to change Mason's position, so that I can make an appearance at the RC meeting - open to any questions, complaints, etc? The objective is to start a serious dialogue between KnujOn and the registrars, beyond the current debate. --bob KnujOn