ccTLDS are subject to the policies and politics of the country to which the TLD has been delegated. gTLDs are subject to the policies and politics of ICANN, including the various indivduals, industries, trade organizations, commercial interests, and goverments that make their opinions felt. While considering the manner govenrments regulate ccTLDs can be instructive for ICANN and its constituencies, and ICANN policies may want or need to take into account what countries do with their ccTLDs, I do not believe that ICANN and its consituencies should be seeking to affect the manner in which ccTLDs are regulated. Those who form a part of ICANN but who have an interest in the manner in which a government regulates its ccTLD should express those interest in the context of national or international forums that are not dedicated to the work of ICANN. Otherwise, things become confused and may be miscontrued. Seth -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of na-discuss-request@atlarge-lists.icann.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 6:00 AM To: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 9, Issue 58 Send NA-Discuss mailing list submissions to na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ica nn.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to na-discuss-request@atlarge-lists.icann.org You can reach the person managing the list at na-discuss-owner@atlarge-lists.icann.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NA-Discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Why the NARALO should stop wasting time arguing about .US (Evan Leibovitch) 2. Re: Why the NARALO should stop wasting time arguing about .US (Michael Maranda) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:57:14 -0400 From: Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Why the NARALO should stop wasting time arguing about .US To: Michael Maranda <mmaranda@afcn.org> Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <469E1C3A.9020402@telly.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Michael Maranda wrote:
No, it isnt NARALO's business as a whole, but I welcome opportunity to learn from Canadian experience and policy and to that extent it is a great opportunity for NARALO to work together for mutual benefit. I am thankful for Canadian input on this. We need to learn from each other.
I need to defer to the American members of this list whether it is a valuable use of our resources (ie, our time!) to define and publicize a policy or reaction related to the .us contract. If this is something that NARALO's US participants believe is important, I'm prepared to stand behind that -- just as I'd hope they'd support us Canadians should something of relevance happen up here. Danny said this is important, this is upsetting, and that we ought to react. John said that, regardless of its importance, it's out of the realm of ICANN and thus a waste of NARALO's time. I guess maybe you're both right. Our position within ICANN gives us access to information about namespace issues, that may allow us to better react and be better aware. (After all, how many groups out there are watching such activities to protect the interest of the public?) Having said that, John's right -- if it's out of our direct realm of influence, NARALO is probably best to just gain wisdom from the information but not to make much noise about it. As someone who believes in the "keep the core neutral" campaign, I agree that it's important not to force -- or even pressure -- ICANN to be more than it is. Having said that, I appreciate Danny's efforts in this regard and wonder if there is any role we can play in raising public awareness. Maybe we're not the ones to hold the .us registry accountable -- but if not ICANN, then who? - Evan ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:37:01 -0500 From: "Michael Maranda" <mmaranda@afcn.org> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Why the NARALO should stop wasting time arguing about .US To: "Evan Leibovitch" <evan@telly.org> Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <3feff8d60707180837g7438411p3b86fa2e3d22106a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm appreciative of your time and welcome Canadian views as we struggle to deal with various issues south of the border. I dont view our activity as wasting time or arguing (particularly in this instance) -MM Evan said:
I need to defer to the American members of this list whether it is a valuable use of our resources (ie, our time!) to define and publicize a policy or reaction related to the .us contract. If this is something that NARALO's US participants believe is important, I'm prepared to stand behind that -- just as I'd hope they'd support us Canadians should something of relevance happen up here.