On 12 December 2011 14:13, Beau Brendler <beaubrendler@earthlink.net> wrote:
Note that, in addition to being asked to testify ( http://forum.icann.org/lists/npoc-voice/msg00064.html), the NPOC is preparing a statement for the congressional committee, due tomorrow afternoon. The NPOC appears to be speaking for the NCSG if I read the notes correctly. The YMCA's IP person was their rep to the committee.
Trust me, the YMCA spokeperson, Angela Williams, absolutely did and does NOT speak for the whole NCSG (though I am aware she has consulted with other NPOC members), The NCUC is VERY opposed to what she (and Esther Dyson) said to the Senate. The NCSG mailing list essentially vilified the all the speakers except for Kurt. And -- as ALAC liaison to the NCSG -- when I dared mention that ALAC had taken previous negative positions about the gTLD program and that we hadn't really part of the consensus Kurt spoke of, I received a full blast of the "Milton treatment" that Beau and Avri and othes here know all-too-well. I was even taken to task for even speaking, with suggestions that liaisons be seen and not heard. By contrast, a speech given by Strickling the same day (that was mentioned by Joly) was paraded by gTLD goldrush supporters as a vindication of the status quo. I didn't see it that way, but still... - Evan
Perhaps this was discussed at the ALAC-NPOC handshake meeting, I don't know, I wasn't there.
BB
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From: "Garth Bruen at Knujon.com" <gbruen@knujon.com> Sent: Dec 12, 2011 11:56 AM To: Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>, "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> Cc: NARALO Discussion List <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [NA-Discuss] U.S. House Hearing Wednesday
So, here are the details of the hearing: http://energycommerce.house.gov/hearings/hearingdetail.aspx?NewsID=9134
There is a list of committee members here: http://energycommerce.house.gov/about/members.shtml
-------------------------------------------------- From: "Evan Leibovitch" <evan@telly.org> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:34 AM To: "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> Cc: "NARALO Discussion List" <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] IMPORTANT: US Senate hearings on new gTLDs
The feeling I keep getting is that the A&T and other reform kind of stuff is ready to be given to us .... AFTER the gTLD goldrush is dome, after all the bad consequences are in place, and we can then have a wonderfully transparent (and associatedly long, inconclusive and probably gamed) process for cleaning up the mess.
- Evan
On 12 December 2011 10:11, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
I agree that the accountability and transparency still has a long ways to go. But I think it has improved and is improving - albeit too slowly. So I agree that is something we definitely have to keep pushing on. Make them live up to the promises made.
Agreed, so long as we're saying that they still need to fix the A and T first, then do other stuff. There are plenty of nice people working at ICANN, but as an institution it has a great deal of trouble doing what it says it's going to do, for anything that doesn't lead directly to revenue.
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