Some discussion of the two charters ________________________________ From: Non-Commercial User Constituency [mailto:NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Konstantinos Komaitis Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:43 AM To: NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: Also on 6 Bucket List I agree with Mary that we need more information about these groups Cheryl. I also find your list quite arbitrary and from reading it I echo Milton's comment that basically a user can be part of almost all of them. I think that this list is rather illusionary and we should be very careful as a non-commercial constituency before exemplifying the types of constituencies that should be formed. Your proposal might backfire and only allow voices to be heard in a very restrictive way (the 6 constituencies can only speak about issues that fall within their scope?) and I am sure that no one really wants this to happen. Konstantinos On 05/03/2009 18:57, "Mary Wong" <mwong@PIERCELAW.EDU> wrote: Thanks for the update, Cheryl - in the spirit of working together and moving forward, I believe the whole NCUC community will be very interested in knowing which groups these are, and in being informed of the discussions that are taking place between and amongst your prospective constituency and these groups. Cheers Mary
"Cheryl Preston" <prestonc@lawgate.byu.edu> 03/05/09 1:09 PM >>> BTW, the "bucket list" concept is now being discussed among two other groups and we have already begun to make changes and to explore a number of other avenues. So, if you have any comments, questions, concerns or would otherwise like to engage in discussions about the long-term concept, please speak up.
Cheryl B. Preston Edwin M. Thomas Professor of Law J. Reuben Clark Law School Brigham Young University 434 JRCB Provo, UT 84602 (801) 422-2312 prestonc@lawgate.byu.edu
Mary Wong <MWong@PIERCELAW.EDU> 3/5/2009 10:32 am >>>
Hi Cheryl and everyone, This week's ICANN meeting has provided us all with useful feedback about the community's concerns and questions regarding a new NCSG. I for one am glad also that Carlos and I had the opportunity to chat with you, and to confirm that we all would like to move forward from previous disagreements, and work together towards a robust and workable NCSG within the reformulated GNSO structure. In that regard, may I suggest that NCUC members take the time to review again both the majority NCUC proposal and that put forward by Cheryl and the potential cyber-safety constituency, with a view toward identifying remaining issues of divergence and discussing whether these differences can be bridged? Thank you all, Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Franklin Pierce Law Center Two White Street Concord, NH 03301 USA Email: mwong@piercelaw.edu Phone: 1-603-513-5143 Webpage: http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584
Cheryl Preston <prestonc@LAWGATE.BYU.EDU> 3/5/2009 12:07 PM >>>
Dear Bill, As it states, the 6 buckets list was only a template for discussion. I am not "proposing" this, only that further study and analysis be done about the vision of a fully mature NCSG before setting an inconsistent structure in place. I would be happy to engage in discussion with you if you have questions. Cheryl B. Preston Edwin M. Thomas Professor of Law J. Reuben Clark Law School Brigham Young University 434 JRCB Provo, UT 84602 (801) 422-2312 prestonc@lawgate.byu.edu
William Drake <william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch> 3/5/2009 7:23 am >>> Cheryl,
Thanks for clarifying your thinking, I was pretty confused in the meeting by your prior explanation of how you expected this to work. I would strongly encourage you to file an amendment to your submission to the board so that they too will have a better understanding of what you are proposing. Best, Bill On Mar 3, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Cheryl Preston wrote:
I understand there is some confusion about exactly what I had in mind when I mentioned the possibility of a six constituency NCSG model. This is the exact statement I mentioned.
Cheryl B. Preston Edwin M. Thomas Professor of Law J. Reuben Clark Law School Brigham Young University 434 JRCB Provo, UT 84602 (801) 422-2312 prestonc@lawgate.byu.edu<Tentative Proposals v2.doc>
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