By "rules", I meant the ICANN By-Laws (in this case Article XI,Section 2.4.b.ii) which dictate that the five NomCom appointees must include a citizen of a country in each ICANN region. The ALAC annually can (and I think does) give the NomCom criteria which it would like to see met. I don't think that there is anything preventing a particular region from including region specific criteria if this is a year that their slot is being filled. And the NomCom of course includes a delegate from each region who can speak up inside the NomCom. The NomCom also consults publicly and presumably privately on what is needed and wanted regarding any particular appointment. To my knowledge, NomComs are not bound by anything other than the By-Laws and are free to accept of ignore any particular bit of advice or preference (which are no doubt conflicting at times). Choices are of course ultimately subjective. In regard to the specific issue at play here, I do not recall previously hearing a discussion a NomCom appointee had to reside in the region that he is associated with by citizenship, but perhaps it was done before my time or out of my earshot. Perhaps to some, it was so obvious that it did not need discussion. Alan At 07/09/2008 02:44 PM, Dharma Dailey wrote:
Are there posted criteria for these positions that can be used as a guideline so that there isn't as much second guessing after the fact?
It's helpful when making decisions such as these to have a prioritized list of bullet pointed criteria to use as a guide for discussing candidates. IMO, rules should be saved for non-starters. In an all volunteer context, I find it's useful to have an idea of the characteristics of an ideal candidate, but also have the flexibility to make rational compromises based on the fact that no two volunteers are likely to excel at everything you might like them to do.
Guidelines help decision makers wade the facts in a systematic way because guidelines separate making decisions of organizational priority from making decisions of who is best at taking on fulfillment of specific tasks. In the real world, these two tasks are often conflated making both decision making processes harder, more personal, less rational.
Dharma Dailey
On Sep 7, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
If it is indeed a problem (and I am not making a case for or against), then we should be talking about changing the rules that are based on citizenship. In this particular case , would have preferred if the dialogue was carried out on the world-wide list so that those people involved could also have a say.
Alan
At 07/09/2008 11:18 AM, you wrote:
Robert,
While it's wonderful that you know and like both candidates, we are trying to discuss a very real issue -- residency requirements. Out of the 27 candidates that hailed from Europe the NomCom chose a candidate to represent Europe that works and resides in Japan. I consider that to be a poor decision, and whether you like Adam or not has no bearing on whether the process needs to be reformed.
Danny
--- On Sun, 9/7/08, Robert Guerra <lists@privaterra.info> wrote:
From: Robert Guerra <lists@privaterra.info> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] 2008 ICANN Nominating Committee Announces Selections To: "NA Discuss" <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 11:03 AM I have a different take on the situation - I have the pleasure of personally knowing both candidates (either from ALAC or WSIS) and know that they will be effective and active representatives for the user constituency @ ALAC.
So i'd rather be constructive - congratulations are in order to Adam & Allan! As well, thanks to the At-Large reps on the nomcom for the hard work and many hours involved in the process.
regards
Robert
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