Placed in item 5.7 for today: https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/NARALO+2013.06.10+Teleconference -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Eric Brunner-Williams Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 12:15 PM To: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] The status of ALSes On 6/8/13 8:42 PM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
If we are going to put the the ALS's under the microsope then we need to go further and look how active these members are as to working groups, voting patterns and active involvement. This should definitely be our yardstick for anyone looking to representing NARALO.
While I don't disagree that engagement is a good, and possibly the best indicator of an At-Large Structure's realization of the commitments made upon application for that status, and a reasonable measure for individuals affiliated with ALSes as representatives of the NARALO, it is possible to directly test each of each ALSes several commitments, which is the subject of my two original notes on this subject, and a spreadsheet and explanatory notes I'll be sending to Staff and the NA-Discuss list later today, and a measure of ALS member activity could not individuals not affiliated with ALSes. Something along the lines of what you've proposed was presented at the Paris ICANN meeting, disclosing, if memory serves, that the recorded votes of the Business Constituency members of the GNSO Council and the recorded votes of the Internet Service Provider Constituency members of the GNSO Council corollated with the recorded votes of the Intellectual Property Constituency, and, that very few proposals leading to recorded votes on policy development originated from either of the Business or Internet Service Provider Constituency. My take-away at the time, and I'd been observing GNSO Council meetings in 2000-2005 and 2007-2009 (year of the Paris meeting), was that real numbers had been put to what was obvious -- the IPC had captured the BC and ISPC, leading to the polarization and gridlock later rationalized in the "reform" creating a Contracted Parties House and a Non-Contracted Parties House, with their polarization and gridlock formalized. I do wish to point out that putting "the ALS's under the microscope" is not something that only "we" can do. The records are public, anyone can study them, as I have, and as was done previously, see the Survey of 2010 as another approach to the available data. Eric Brunner-Williams Eugene, Oregon ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------