Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO input to the ALAC budget
OK, here's some notions: How about $5,000 for regional survey research work on matters of policy importance to consumers in the NA region. So that we don't have to keep winging it so much when we need to talk intelligently about what people want. How about $1,000 to make an outreach video for YouTube, Blip.TV and other fora that ICANN doesn't seem to see the value of. How about $3,000 in travel expenses for members of the NA community to travel to other ICANN regional and community meetings (not the thrice-weekly big meetings, but the frequent smaller ones the organization holds for the contracted parties and others)? The user community should have a forum to voice user needs at these meetings and be there as a representative to check on what everyone else is up to. How about $10K for creation and maintenance of a real NA RALO web site and presence? Not some crap wiki on the ICANN site. -----Original Message-----
From: Gareth Shearman <shearman@victoria.tc.ca> Sent: Jan 20, 2011 5:04 PM To: "<na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> List" <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [NA-Discuss] NARALO input to the ALAC budget
Further to Darlene's note:
Please review the page at this link:
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+FY12+Budget+Development...
Send your submissions to me using the Excel form linked from the above page.
In the past we have unsuccessfully requested:
Money for a NARALO general assembly of our ALSes - next opportunity is ICANN meeting #45 which is currently scheduled to be in North America in October of 2012. Money for regional outreach events, taking advantage of events sponsored by other organizations.
I think we need to include these two items in our request.
Let's hear *your* ideas - I'm not going to try and do this alone!
Remember - time is short.
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I'm currently filling in the template in regards to a project -- long discussed in NARALO approvingly -- of having ICANN fund participation in end-user-targeted conferences -- preferably ones with international attraction so to have the maximum exposure. The proposal -- to be done along with parallel submissions from other regions -- would have a first-year trial in Computex, CES and Cebit. Is this succeeds we propose to extend this to smaller, regional conferences. Main expense to ICANN is creation of a 3m^2 booth (about $2K) and expenses to ship the booth and volunteers to the shows. As the volunteers would presumably be in-region, travel costs should be minimal. - Evan On 21 January 2011 15:18, Beau Brendler <beaubrendler@earthlink.net> wrote:
OK, here's some notions:
How about $5,000 for regional survey research work on matters of policy importance to consumers in the NA region. So that we don't have to keep winging it so much when we need to talk intelligently about what people want.
How about $1,000 to make an outreach video for YouTube, Blip.TV and other fora that ICANN doesn't seem to see the value of.
How about $3,000 in travel expenses for members of the NA community to travel to other ICANN regional and community meetings (not the thrice-weekly big meetings, but the frequent smaller ones the organization holds for the contracted parties and others)? The user community should have a forum to voice user needs at these meetings and be there as a representative to check on what everyone else is up to.
How about $10K for creation and maintenance of a real NA RALO web site and presence? Not some crap wiki on the ICANN site.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gareth Shearman <shearman@victoria.tc.ca> Sent: Jan 20, 2011 5:04 PM To: "<na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> List" < na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [NA-Discuss] NARALO input to the ALAC budget
Further to Darlene's note:
Please review the page at this link:
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+FY12+Budget+Development...
Send your submissions to me using the Excel form linked from the above
page.
In the past we have unsuccessfully requested:
Money for a NARALO general assembly of our ALSes - next opportunity is
ICANN meeting #45 which is currently scheduled to be in North America in October of 2012.
Money for regional outreach events, taking advantage of events sponsored by other organizations.
I think we need to include these two items in our request.
Let's hear *your* ideas - I'm not going to try and do this alone!
Remember - time is short.
Thank you, Gareth ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
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-- Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada Em: evanl at telly dot org Sk: evanleibovitch Tw: el56
It makes sense to get folks to conferences, but shouldn't we be targeting policy meetings involving users rather than trade shows? This would be more in line with the ALAC mission. For example, we are helping to organize the Computers, Freedom, Privacy conference in Washington, DC mid-June. This would be a very good opportunity to engage policymakers in North America on ICANN-related user issues and it would make sense to have a panel with NARALO participation. Marc. On Jan 21, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
I'm currently filling in the template in regards to a project -- long discussed in NARALO approvingly -- of having ICANN fund participation in end-user-targeted conferences -- preferably ones with international attraction so to have the maximum exposure.
The proposal -- to be done along with parallel submissions from other regions -- would have a first-year trial in Computex, CES and Cebit. Is this succeeds we propose to extend this to smaller, regional conferences.
Main expense to ICANN is creation of a 3m^2 booth (about $2K) and expenses to ship the booth and volunteers to the shows. As the volunteers would presumably be in-region, travel costs should be minimal.
- Evan
On 21 January 2011 15:18, Beau Brendler <beaubrendler@earthlink.net> wrote:
OK, here's some notions:
How about $5,000 for regional survey research work on matters of policy importance to consumers in the NA region. So that we don't have to keep winging it so much when we need to talk intelligently about what people want.
How about $1,000 to make an outreach video for YouTube, Blip.TV and other fora that ICANN doesn't seem to see the value of.
How about $3,000 in travel expenses for members of the NA community to travel to other ICANN regional and community meetings (not the thrice-weekly big meetings, but the frequent smaller ones the organization holds for the contracted parties and others)? The user community should have a forum to voice user needs at these meetings and be there as a representative to check on what everyone else is up to.
How about $10K for creation and maintenance of a real NA RALO web site and presence? Not some crap wiki on the ICANN site.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gareth Shearman <shearman@victoria.tc.ca> Sent: Jan 20, 2011 5:04 PM To: "<na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> List" < na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [NA-Discuss] NARALO input to the ALAC budget
Further to Darlene's note:
Please review the page at this link:
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+FY12+Budget+Development...
Send your submissions to me using the Excel form linked from the above
page.
In the past we have unsuccessfully requested:
Money for a NARALO general assembly of our ALSes - next opportunity is
ICANN meeting #45 which is currently scheduled to be in North America in October of 2012.
Money for regional outreach events, taking advantage of events sponsored by other organizations.
I think we need to include these two items in our request.
Let's hear *your* ideas - I'm not going to try and do this alone!
Remember - time is short.
Thank you, Gareth ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
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Evan, Don't forget the cost of the signage for the booth, something that is bulky and hard to recover and re-use for each trade show, and the design cost for the signage, drapery, etc. Then there is the cost for brochures and any other informationals. Of course, ICANN may want to supply its own booth kit rather than have us (or anyone) buy a booth at some venue and go with our own catch-as-catch-can signage, drapery, and other visual signature items. Eric
On 21 January 2011 17:37, Eric Brunner-Williams <ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net>wrote:
Evan,
Don't forget the cost of the signage for the booth, something that is bulky and hard to recover and re-use for each trade show, and the design cost for the signage, drapery, etc.
I've organized booths at dozens of shows and have exhibited at Comdex, Cebit and elsewhere. Those things are terrifically trivial; there are booth designs that minimize that kind of cost. A remarkable amount of the materials are portable and reusable if designed right. I've frequently been able to take everything needed for a reasonably slick, fully equipped 10x10 booth as checked luggage. - Evan
Outstanding. One of my least favorite activities in the recent past was participating in the booth planning for a frequent ICANN Silver sponsor. I'm glad you have the experience! Eric On 1/21/11 5:51 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
On 21 January 2011 17:37, Eric Brunner-Williams <ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net <mailto:ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net>> wrote:
Evan,
Don't forget the cost of the signage for the booth, something that is bulky and hard to recover and re-use for each trade show, and the design cost for the signage, drapery, etc.
I've organized booths at dozens of shows and have exhibited at Comdex, Cebit and elsewhere.
Those things are terrifically trivial; there are booth designs that minimize that kind of cost. A remarkable amount of the materials are portable and reusable if designed right. I've frequently been able to take everything needed for a reasonably slick, fully equipped 10x10 booth as checked luggage.
- Evan
I would like to see a decent print run of the leaflet so painstakingly designed last year, and distribution to ALS's for further dissemination. Say 5000 - I checked 1800postcards.com and that would be $687 - plus cost of mailing out - another $200 perhaps. - so $900 say. j -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org ---------------------------------------------------------------
I would be interested to know if there has ever been a survey or report on efforts by ALAC members to engage their constituencies. Also, are there any current structures to build on? Over the years, I've worked on several efforts to promote civil society participation in decisions concerning the future of the Internet. These have included The Public Voice http://thepublicvoice.org/ The Ciivll Society Information Society Advisory Council http://thepublicvoice.org/ One of our key goals has been to provide timely and useful information to those who might be interested. Marc Rotenberg On Jan 21, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Beau Brendler wrote:
OK, here's some notions:
How about $5,000 for regional survey research work on matters of policy importance to consumers in the NA region. So that we don't have to keep winging it so much when we need to talk intelligently about what people want.
How about $1,000 to make an outreach video for YouTube, Blip.TV and other fora that ICANN doesn't seem to see the value of.
How about $3,000 in travel expenses for members of the NA community to travel to other ICANN regional and community meetings (not the thrice-weekly big meetings, but the frequent smaller ones the organization holds for the contracted parties and others)? The user community should have a forum to voice user needs at these meetings and be there as a representative to check on what everyone else is up to.
How about $10K for creation and maintenance of a real NA RALO web site and presence? Not some crap wiki on the ICANN site.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gareth Shearman <shearman@victoria.tc.ca> Sent: Jan 20, 2011 5:04 PM To: "<na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> List" <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [NA-Discuss] NARALO input to the ALAC budget
Further to Darlene's note:
Please review the page at this link:
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+FY12+Budget+Development...
Send your submissions to me using the Excel form linked from the above page.
In the past we have unsuccessfully requested:
Money for a NARALO general assembly of our ALSes - next opportunity is ICANN meeting #45 which is currently scheduled to be in North America in October of 2012. Money for regional outreach events, taking advantage of events sponsored by other organizations.
I think we need to include these two items in our request.
Let's hear *your* ideas - I'm not going to try and do this alone!
Remember - time is short.
Thank you, Gareth ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
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On 21 January 2011 15:38, Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg@epic.org> wrote:
I would be interested to know if there has ever been a survey or report on efforts by ALAC members to engage their constituencies.
There was a major survey done in advance of the At-Large Summit held at the ICANN meeting in Mexico City.
Also, are there any current structures to build on?
I don't know what you mean by structures. Please elaborate. - Evan
On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
On 21 January 2011 15:38, Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg@epic.org> wrote: I would be interested to know if there has ever been a survey or report on efforts by ALAC members to engage their constituencies.
There was a major survey done in advance of the At-Large Summit held at the ICANN meeting in Mexico City.
URL?
Also, are there any current structures to build on?
I don't know what you mean by structures. Please elaborate.
Mechanisms to solicit and assess user opinion. Thanks for the reply. Marc.
- Evan
Hi Marc, Last year At-Large carried out a major ALS survey in which 72 out of 122 At-Large Structures (ALSes) responded. This was a wide-ranging survey which covered such areas as details about the ALSes, policy and process issues (education and engagement ranked as high priorities) and barriers to participation. The report on this survey is available at: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2264933/ALS_Survey_Analysis.... The 2010 ALS Survey workspace, which includes statistics and the individual regional analyses of the 2010 ALS Survey Working Group is available at: https://community.icann.org/display/ALSurvey/At-Large+Structure+2010+Survey+.... The 2009 survey focused only on requested topics and language needs for the At-Large Summit. The results of this survey available at: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2265078/Poll%2520results%25.... A 2008 survey resulted in information on At-Large and ALAC issues of interest. The results are available at: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Previous+Surveys+on+ALAC+Policy+.... Regarding mechanisms to solicit user opinion, the bottom up process of the At-Large community serves as one means to collect user opinion (i.e., ALS -> RALO -> ALAC -> Board). Additionally, all of our At-Large community wiki pages have a comments function by which anyone can leave a comment on a specific issue. Finally, the vast majority of the At-Large mailing lists are open and public. Anyone can subscribe to the At-Large worldwide list and various regional and working group mailing lists. Related to engagement and outreach, Work Team B of the At-Large Improvements project is focusing on At-Large participation. Their workspace is available at: https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/At-Large+Improvements+Work+Team+.... Please let me know if you have additional questions on these issues. Kind regards, Heidi Heidi Ullrich Director for At-Large Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: + 1 (310) 578 - 8647 Fax: +1 (310) 823 - 8649 Cell/Mobile: +1 (310) 437 - 3956 -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Marc Rotenberg Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 1:50 PM To: Evan Leibovitch Cc: <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> List Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO input to the ALAC budget On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
On 21 January 2011 15:38, Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg@epic.org> wrote: I would be interested to know if there has ever been a survey or report on efforts by ALAC members to engage their constituencies.
There was a major survey done in advance of the At-Large Summit held at the ICANN meeting in Mexico City.
URL?
Also, are there any current structures to build on?
I don't know what you mean by structures. Please elaborate.
Mechanisms to solicit and assess user opinion. Thanks for the reply. Marc.
- Evan
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This is great stuff. Thanks. I will start reading! Marc. On Jan 21, 2011, at 6:05 PM, Heidi Ullrich wrote:
Hi Marc,
Last year At-Large carried out a major ALS survey in which 72 out of 122 At-Large Structures (ALSes) responded. This was a wide-ranging survey which covered such areas as details about the ALSes, policy and process issues (education and engagement ranked as high priorities) and barriers to participation.
The report on this survey is available at: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2264933/ALS_Survey_Analysis....
The 2010 ALS Survey workspace, which includes statistics and the individual regional analyses of the 2010 ALS Survey Working Group is available at: https://community.icann.org/display/ALSurvey/At-Large+Structure+2010+Survey+....
The 2009 survey focused only on requested topics and language needs for the At-Large Summit. The results of this survey available at: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2265078/Poll%2520results%25....
A 2008 survey resulted in information on At-Large and ALAC issues of interest. The results are available at: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Previous+Surveys+on+ALAC+Policy+....
Regarding mechanisms to solicit user opinion, the bottom up process of the At-Large community serves as one means to collect user opinion (i.e., ALS -> RALO -> ALAC -> Board). Additionally, all of our At-Large community wiki pages have a comments function by which anyone can leave a comment on a specific issue. Finally, the vast majority of the At-Large mailing lists are open and public. Anyone can subscribe to the At-Large worldwide list and various regional and working group mailing lists.
Related to engagement and outreach, Work Team B of the At-Large Improvements project is focusing on At-Large participation. Their workspace is available at: https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/At-Large+Improvements+Work+Team+....
Please let me know if you have additional questions on these issues.
Kind regards, Heidi
Heidi Ullrich Director for At-Large Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: + 1 (310) 578 - 8647 Fax: +1 (310) 823 - 8649 Cell/Mobile: +1 (310) 437 - 3956
-----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Marc Rotenberg Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 1:50 PM To: Evan Leibovitch Cc: <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> List Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO input to the ALAC budget
On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
On 21 January 2011 15:38, Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg@epic.org> wrote: I would be interested to know if there has ever been a survey or report on efforts by ALAC members to engage their constituencies.
There was a major survey done in advance of the At-Large Summit held at the ICANN meeting in Mexico City.
URL?
Also, are there any current structures to build on?
I don't know what you mean by structures. Please elaborate.
Mechanisms to solicit and assess user opinion.
Thanks for the reply.
Marc.
- Evan
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