Re: NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 223, Issue 22
Thank you! I just bought mine! *Denise Avivit de Alcantara Hochbaum*, PhD, AIA International Member *Mobile: +1 (917) 757-2513 * *910 M Street NW Apt 501 Washington DC* *Design Factor Solutions, President* On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 6:29 PM <na-discuss-request@icann.org> wrote:
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> To: Glenn McKnight via NA-Discuss <na-discuss@icann.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 10:41:40 -0400 Subject: [NA-Discuss] Milton Muellers new book -Declaring Independence in Cyberspace Internet Self-Governance and the End of US Control of ICANN Declaring Independence in CyberspaceInternet Self-Governance and the End of US Control of ICANN
by Milton L. Mueller <https://mitpress.mit.edu/author/milton-l-mueller-2069>
https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262552585/declaring-independence-in-cyberspace/ Glenn McKnight, MA Virtual School of Internet Governance Chief Information Officer www.virtualsig.org *YOUR SOURCE FOR INTERNET GOVERNANCE EDUCATION * *Mobile 437-237-4655*
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> To: "alac-announce@icann.org" <alac-announce@icann.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 21:28:58 +0000 Subject: [NA-Discuss] At-Large Calls / Week of 19 - 23 May 2025
Dear All,
Please find below the list of At-Large meetings for the week of 19 - 23 May 2025
*Monday**,** 19 May **2025*
16:00 UTC: ICANN83 Planning Committee - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/WoC1Dw Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/93008755952?pwd=ThUhodbfYbtqd2d4sxHRke8JMxhrSK.1
23:00 UTC: LACRALO Monthly - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AYCmE Registration Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/meeting/register/rHG5pN3oS9eEkF6pF6dWeg *(Must register to join) *
<https://icann.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJYpcOigqj0pG9AJs1G_oLypLnFStphsAJR9>
*Tuesday**, 20 May** 2025*
16:00 UTC: ALAC Community Engagement Subcommittee (ACES) Call - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AQA1E Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/96905804302?pwd=zCfMmIStFLG3az2YagDdmNqeMs2Fbh.1
19:00 UTC: ALAC Monthly *(90 minutes)* - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AQBPDg Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/97467946014?pwd=bn8KYDFprTg0v4oLtHlSNy3sfWONOT.1
*Wednesday**, 21 May 2025*
19:00 UTC: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/WgC_E Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566?pwd=UTJCdWRSZVdJNEhOYW02OVBqQVQ1Zz09
*Thursday**, 22 May **2025*
18:00 UTC: At-Large Operations, Finance and Budget Working Group (OFB-WG) Call
https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AYDpE - Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/92139943237?pwd=RR7XGoRSXgUGFm2K4QKyAFEp54AzQb.1
*Friday, 23 May **2025*
14:00 UTC: At-Large Regional Leadership Call https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AQBtE Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/97474183708?pwd=oK03XBC7zOQubHx89OhMkk0bKbE6Vu.1
Please confirm your dial-out requests or apology notice to staff@atlarge .icann.org
Thank you.
Kind Regards,
At-Large Staff
ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community
Website: atlarge.icann.org
Facebook: facebook.com/icann <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>at large <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>
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As we saw in the debacle that was the halted sale of .ORG, ultimate power over ICANN exists in the State of California where it is incorporated, up to and including the power to dissolve it. Despite the assertion in its flag California is still part of the USA, meaning that ICANN remains subject to both US federal and California state law. Any assertion otherwise is dead on delivery. Funny ... despite all of ICANN's supposed grand changes in governance I don't see, for example, the internationalizing of the .GOV (or .MIL or .EDU) registries such that those TLDs would be offered for use by other countries as .COM and .ORG are. One would think that to be a natural consequence of the de-Americanization of the DNS. But it's not even being considered. The original design decision to make ICANN a California nonprofit rather than an international treaty-based organization forever cements its real source of authority. Any premise otherwise, even if it takes a whole book to explain, is wishful thinking at best and misinformation at worst. (Of course, as many in our community are aware, functional control of ICANN's non-technical activities has been captured by its commercial constituencies and that hasn't changed either since the transition.) - Evan On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 8:23 AM Denise de alcantara-hochbaum via NA-Discuss <na-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
Thank you! I just bought mine! *Denise Avivit de Alcantara Hochbaum*, PhD, AIA International Member *Mobile: +1 (917) 757-2513 * *910 M Street NW Apt 501 Washington DC* *Design Factor Solutions, President*
On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 6:29 PM <na-discuss-request@icann.org> wrote:
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1. Milton Muellers new book -Declaring Independence in Cyberspace Internet Self-Governance and the End of US Control of ICANN (Glenn McKnight) 2. At-Large Calls / Week of 19 - 23 May 2025 (ICANN At-Large Staff)
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> To: Glenn McKnight via NA-Discuss <na-discuss@icann.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 10:41:40 -0400 Subject: [NA-Discuss] Milton Muellers new book -Declaring Independence in Cyberspace Internet Self-Governance and the End of US Control of ICANN Declaring Independence in CyberspaceInternet Self-Governance and the End of US Control of ICANN
by Milton L. Mueller <https://mitpress.mit.edu/author/milton-l-mueller-2069>
https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262552585/declaring-independence-in-cyberspace/ Glenn McKnight, MA Virtual School of Internet Governance Chief Information Officer www.virtualsig.org *YOUR SOURCE FOR INTERNET GOVERNANCE EDUCATION * *Mobile 437-237-4655*
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> To: "alac-announce@icann.org" <alac-announce@icann.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 21:28:58 +0000 Subject: [NA-Discuss] At-Large Calls / Week of 19 - 23 May 2025
Dear All,
Please find below the list of At-Large meetings for the week of 19 - 23 May 2025
*Monday**,** 19 May **2025*
16:00 UTC: ICANN83 Planning Committee - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/WoC1Dw Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/93008755952?pwd=ThUhodbfYbtqd2d4sxHRke8JMxhrSK.1
23:00 UTC: LACRALO Monthly - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AYCmE Registration Zoom Link:https://icann.zoom.us/meeting/register/rHG5pN3oS9eEkF6pF6dWeg *(Must register to join) *
<https://icann.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJYpcOigqj0pG9AJs1G_oLypLnFStphsAJR9>
*Tuesday**, 20 May** 2025*
16:00 UTC: ALAC Community Engagement Subcommittee (ACES) Call - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AQA1E Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/96905804302?pwd=zCfMmIStFLG3az2YagDdmNqeMs2Fbh.1
19:00 UTC: ALAC Monthly *(90 minutes)* - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AQBPDg Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/97467946014?pwd=bn8KYDFprTg0v4oLtHlSNy3sfWONOT.1
*Wednesday**, 21 May 2025*
19:00 UTC: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/WgC_E Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566?pwd=UTJCdWRSZVdJNEhOYW02OVBqQVQ1Zz09
*Thursday**, 22 May **2025*
18:00 UTC: At-Large Operations, Finance and Budget Working Group (OFB-WG) Call
https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AYDpE - Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/92139943237?pwd=RR7XGoRSXgUGFm2K4QKyAFEp54AzQb.1
*Friday, 23 May **2025*
14:00 UTC: At-Large Regional Leadership Call https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AQBtE Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/97474183708?pwd=oK03XBC7zOQubHx89OhMkk0bKbE6Vu.1
Please confirm your dial-out requests or apology notice to staff@atlarge .icann.org
Thank you.
Kind Regards,
At-Large Staff
ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community
Website: atlarge.icann.org
Facebook: facebook.com/icann <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>at large <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>
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-- Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56
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