Not really,

Frankly, my own ALS, N-CAP was not AT ALL engaged in ICANN activities
before becoming accredited.  But it was a REAL entity with REAL members
with a REAL constitution that was in line with what ICANN wanted.  After
becoming accredited, then we became active in the ICANN milieu.

So, the fact that Papergate hasn't been involved in ICANN activities in
the past has no bearing at all, nor how they would use their ALS status.

If you read the DD report that I attached to my first e-mail and then
reference the points that I brought up, you might get a clearer idea of
the issue here.  Basically, we have no proof of Papergate's existence
(whether incorporated or not doesn't matter), whether it has members or
not, what its actual mandate is or anything at all.

Clear as mud?  Let me know!

D

Darlene A. Thompson
Community Access Program Administrator
Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP
P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
Iqaluit, NU  X0A 0H0
Phone:  (867) 975-5631
Fax:  (867) 975-5610
E-mail:  dthompson@gov.nu.ca
 

-----Original Message-----
From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org
[mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Garth
Bruen at KnujOn
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:50 AM
To: Evan Leibovitch
Cc: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] FW: Regional Advice for Papergate

Hello folks. Having just been accepted myself, I was hoping to avoid
weighing in heavily on this, but I'm concerned. KnujOn was very engaged
in ICANN activities for a long time before applying for At-Large
membership. I gather from the conversation there is scant evidence of
how Papergate has been involved in ICANN activities or how they would
use the ALS status?

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Collect, analyze, enforce, repeat...

Garth Bruen
gbruen@knujon.com
http://www.knujon.com
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/149/724

Dr. Robert Bruen at:
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Antispyware Coalition, Washington D.C. - May 19
http://www.antispywarecoalition.org/events/index.htm


> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] FW: Regional Advice for Papergate
> From: Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>
> Date: Tue, April 07, 2009 10:07 am
> To: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>
> Cc: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Alan Greenberg wrote:
> > As Darlene said, incorporating but not having any viable
organization
> > is not particularly good either. I happen to be associated with a
> > functioning, productive not-for-profit (far from the ICANN world)
and
> > I would hope that our not having incorporated (initial and ongoing
> > cost just to high to justify) would not be held against us.
> Correct, and I erred by suggesting that an ALS might need to be
> incorporated. The ICANN rules regarding ALS accreditation explicitly
> make no requirement for legal corporate status.
> > Proof/demonstration of ongoing activities and membership is the key.
> Absolutely agreed.
> - Evan
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