Must read on Multistakeholderism by Alexander Klimburg
An interesting summary on the evolution of the term Multistakeholderism including Klimburg's ongoing debate with Milton Mueller In February VSIG will hold a session with Karen Mulberry, Marita Moll ( if available ) and I will invite Alexander to the session to go over his main concepts Here is the article https://circleid.com/posts/multistakerholderism-and-its-discontents-a-reply Glenn McKnight, MA Virtual School of Internet Governance Chief Information Officer www.virtualsig.org *YOUR SOURCE FOR INTERNET GOVERNANCE EDUCATION * *Mobile 437-237-4655*
Thanks, Glenn. Too bad the article is so unhelpful. From its very start, the "defence" of multistakeholderism (in its current forms) is pompous and devoid of evidence. His critique of Mueller is shallow and full of unproven assumptions. Twenty years after multistakeholderism helped save the Free Internet and
present-day Internet governance from a potentially existential crise [...]
Saved it? From global spread of rampant misinformation? From entire state actors engaging in cyberattacks on enemies? From acceptance of phishing and other scams that have bled countless wealth out of well-meaning users? From preventing the arbitrary government blockage of the Internet for political purpose? From enabling societal levels of non-consensual privacy invasion? From stopping interrefrence in democratic processes? From having transparency in social media recommendation algorithms? From keeping AI accurate and respectful of intellectual property? Yeah, right. Saved, that's the word. Sheesh. We have not had internet governance. We have had a smattering of well-meaning technical bodies, trade associations calling themselves multistakeholder, and an IGF that believes in the righteousness of talk-without-action for its own sake. "Obvious miracle" my eye. - Evan On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 6:00 PM Glenn McKnight via NA-Discuss < na-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
An interesting summary on the evolution of the term Multistakeholderism including Klimburg's ongoing debate with Milton Mueller In February VSIG will hold a session with Karen Mulberry, Marita Moll ( if available ) and I will invite Alexander to the session to go over his main concepts Here is the article https://circleid.com/posts/multistakerholderism-and-its-discontents-a-reply
Glenn McKnight, MA Virtual School of Internet Governance Chief Information Officer www.virtualsig.org *YOUR SOURCE FOR INTERNET GOVERNANCE EDUCATION * *Mobile 437-237-4655*
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Hi Evan, It might be helpful if you would unpack what you see "governance" meaning in the context of the Internet. To your other points, I submit that we have technical bodies which are not only well-meaning but effective. They don't have 100% control over the technical aspects of the Internet, but they do establish technical standards which are routinely adopted by most vendors of products for the Internet. As for the multistakeholder model itself, I think it is worth considering whether the trend towards being a trade association is due to inherent flaws in the model, or due to flaws in the implementation of the model. If the later (which I personally find more persuasive), we can address what changes are needed there. Of course, if it's the former, we can just throw up our hands and go home. Bill Jouris Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 8:38 AM, Evan Leibovitch via NA-Discuss<na-discuss@icann.org> wrote: ------ NA-Discuss mailing list -- na-discuss@icann.org To unsubscribe send an email to na-discuss-leave@icann.org Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------ _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
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