Re: [NA-Discuss] Global At-Large Summit
EXCELLENT ideas, V! ________________________________ From: Vittorio Bertola [mailto:vb@bertola.eu] Sent: Tue 7/3/2007 4:31 PM To: Thompson, Darlene Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Global At-Large Summit Thompson, Darlene ha scritto:
Hi all,
It was discussed at the meeting in San Juan that there is an interest amongst the At-Large community to have a global meeting of the ALSs, now that all of the RALOs are formed. As 1/2 of your interim Secretariat, I will be having contact with the other RALOs to work on moving this forward.
Would anybody else be interested in forming a working group or task force on this matter with me? Please let me know.
Please keep me posted. I guess that it will be me (at least if I'm reappointed) to have to convince ICANN's COO and CEO, if not the entire Board, that this event deserves $100-150k of additional expenditure. Especially, we should work out on a compelling case on why such an event would be particularly useful; shaking hands and socializing among such diverse people would be a good thing, but on the other hand discussions are already quite pointless and relatively ineffective in the meetings of 15 ALAC people plus a few from one or two RALOs... just imagine with 100 RALO representatives from five continents in the same room. Such a meeting is absolutely doable, but it would require a clear agenda, clear procedures, clear deliverables and clear objectives: it needs a well thought out plan. On another matter - it occurred to me that Avri Doria, the GNSO Chair, is now living in Lulea (in Sweden) and working on networking and education opportunities for the Sami people, who live in Scandinavia beyond the Arctic circle (well, beyond if looking from where I live). I guess that the Sami might share many challenges with the Inuit; I don't know whether you met Avri in San Juan, in any case it might be interesting for you to get in touch with her. Regards, -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <--------
Not to dissuade you on the idea of an at-large summit-- but before we get too far on the idea of doing it in Los Angeles--we should see if there is difficulty in getting a visa to the US these days. My understanding is that (at least recently) ICANN has been loathe to have meetings in the US because it's very hard for people to get visas to attend. There may be another upcoming venue that is easier (and possibly cheaper.) Can anyone confirm this or suggest a way to find out? JP
Huh - I can sure understand that! Actually, we are attempting to plan this for February in Europe. Hopefully, that *might* work out better. D ________________________________ From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Jean Armour Polly Sent: Wed 7/4/2007 11:17 AM To: Thompson, Darlene Cc: Vittorio Bertola; na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Global At-Large Summit Not to dissuade you on the idea of an at-large summit-- but before we get too far on the idea of doing it in Los Angeles--we should see if there is difficulty in getting a visa to the US these days. My understanding is that (at least recently) ICANN has been loathe to have meetings in the US because it's very hard for people to get visas to attend. There may be another upcoming venue that is easier (and possibly cheaper.) Can anyone confirm this or suggest a way to find out? JP _______________________________________________ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ica... --- Draft MoU with ICANN: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU Draft Operating Principles: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP Draft Code of Conduct: http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct
I think you mean JUNE in Europe; February's in Asia ;) -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart On 4 Jul 2007, at 18:11, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Huh - I can sure understand that! Actually, we are attempting to plan this for February in Europe. Hopefully, that *might* work out better.
D
From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Jean Armour Polly Sent: Wed 7/4/2007 11:17 AM To: Thompson, Darlene Cc: Vittorio Bertola; na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Global At-Large Summit
Not to dissuade you on the idea of an at-large summit-- but before we get too far on the idea of doing it in Los Angeles--we should see if there is difficulty in getting a visa to the US these days. My understanding is that (at least recently) ICANN has been loathe to have meetings in the US because it's very hard for people to get visas to attend. There may be another upcoming venue that is easier (and possibly cheaper.) Can anyone confirm this or suggest a way to find out? JP
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Yeah, yeah, yeah :p I totally did mean June. February got stuck in my brain as being a time for possible outreach in Canada in Vancouver. Sorry for the confusion folks! D ________________________________ From: Nick Ashton-Hart [mailto:nick.ashton-hart@icann.org] Sent: Thu 7/5/2007 6:10 AM To: Thompson, Darlene Cc: Jean Armour Polly; Vittorio Bertola; na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Global At-Large Summit I think you mean JUNE in Europe; February's in Asia ;) -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart On 4 Jul 2007, at 18:11, Thompson, Darlene wrote: Huh - I can sure understand that! Actually, we are attempting to plan this for February in Europe. Hopefully, that *might* work out better. D ________________________________ From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Jean Armour Polly Sent: Wed 7/4/2007 11:17 AM To: Thompson, Darlene Cc: Vittorio Bertola; na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Global At-Large Summit Not to dissuade you on the idea of an at-large summit-- but before we get too far on the idea of doing it in Los Angeles--we should see if there is difficulty in getting a visa to the US these days. My understanding is that (at least recently) ICANN has been loathe to have meetings in the US because it's very hard for people to get visas to attend. There may be another upcoming venue that is easier (and possibly cheaper.) Can anyone confirm this or suggest a way to find out? JP _______________________________________________ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ica... --- Draft MoU with ICANN: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU Draft Operating Principles: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP Draft Code of Conduct: http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct _______________________________________________ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ica... --- Draft MoU with ICANN: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU Draft Operating Principles: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP Draft Code of Conduct: http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct
And according to one recent note on the web, Paris has submitted a bid! Ah, Paris in June. Sounds like the perfect time for lots of outreach. Bret On Jul 5, 2007, at 3:10 AM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote:
I think you mean JUNE in Europe; February's in Asia ;) -- Regards,
Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart
On 4 Jul 2007, at 18:11, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Huh - I can sure understand that! Actually, we are attempting to plan this for February in Europe. Hopefully, that *might* work out better.
D
From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Jean Armour Polly Sent: Wed 7/4/2007 11:17 AM To: Thompson, Darlene Cc: Vittorio Bertola; na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Global At-Large Summit
Not to dissuade you on the idea of an at-large summit-- but before we get too far on the idea of doing it in Los Angeles--we should see if there is difficulty in getting a visa to the US these days. My understanding is that (at least recently) ICANN has been loathe to have meetings in the US because it's very hard for people to get visas to attend. There may be another upcoming venue that is easier (and possibly cheaper.) Can anyone confirm this or suggest a way to find out? JP
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Draft Operating Principles: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP
Draft Code of Conduct: http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct
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Draft Code of Conduct: http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct
_______________________________________________ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge- lists.icann.org --- Draft MoU with ICANN: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU
Draft Operating Principles: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP
Draft Code of Conduct: http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct
Hello Jean,
Not to dissuade you on the idea of an at-large summit-- but before we get too far on the idea of doing it in Los Angeles--we should see if there is difficulty in getting a visa to the US these days. My understanding is that (at least recently) ICANN has been loathe to have meetings in the US because it's very hard for people to get visas to attend. There may be another upcoming venue that is easier (and possibly cheaper.) Can anyone confirm this or suggest a way to find out? As has been mentioned elsewhere, the proposed venue is the Europe meeting roughly one year from now.
While some have suggested that it could or should be done sooner, there are many compelling reasons for this (not the least of which are your visa/travel concerns). The sheer size of the event, which would be a mini-conference alongside the ICANN meeting, suggests that this requires substantial planning. If we botch this first one, it'll be a while before anyone has the courage to do it again. What are the topics? Who are the speakers? Are there separate tracks? How many rooms does it need? How big do the presentation rooms need to be? How much non-travel money does it need? Frontal presentations, round tables, or (real) hands-on workshops? What resources (white papers, brichures, multimedia) need to be available? How will Summit communications (ie, public website) be maintained? How to keep momentum after the Summit is over? Whose food can attendees steal? (Sorry.) All this needs to be planned; and we don't even yet have the formal buy-in from the RALO of the region that would host the event! (Though we appear to have the enthusiastic support of its ALAC reps.) Getting this buy-in is the first step of a long process. The suggestion that I like is that -- assuming we get support from the other RALOs -- we should ASAP assemble a working group of people who want to make this happen, and have the skills to do it. This WG would meet extensively through virtual means, within itself and with all relevant stakeholders (RALOs, ALAC, ICANN Staff, meeting hosts, possibly NCUC and ultimately the Board for budget approval). I would hope that we will get formal budget approval in LA (as well as an official public announcement of the Summit) and a conference schedule accepted by stakeholders at the Asia meeting. Is this a reasonable schedule? If so, it points to doing the Summit at the Europe ICANN meeting. Doing so also means that travel costs and visa headaches are likely reduced (compared to holding it in other regions). - Evan
participants (5)
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Bret Fausett -
Evan Leibovitch -
Jean Armour Polly -
Nick Ashton-Hart -
Thompson, Darlene