Dear NA: This morning in the board liaison candidacy discussion, Alan Greenberg asked me a question that went something like, "considering the NA region is calling for your resignation because you don't have time for your ALAC duties as they currently stand, why should we vote for you for board liaison?" Putting aside the board liaison candidacy thing for a moment, I need to get clear on something. If I misinterpreted the question (I don't think I did), feel free to ignore this note. If Alan's question comes from some sort of bias for Wendy's candidacy versus mine, well hey, that's OK, I'm a big boy and I don't really see that as a problem. The ALAC will vote for whom it votes. But if the NA-RALO is indeed asking for my resignation, I would have appreciated the opportunity to address it in another forum beforehand, or would have appreciated hearing it directly from the elected chair of the NA-RALO rather than from a nomcom appointee. Or, for that matter, I would have appreciated hearing about it from the chair of the ALAC. If it's indeed the case, you'll have my resignation in 24 hours -- (914) 378-2018 until 5:30 EST. It would be great to know before the weekend starts, so I can devote time I would have spent on ICANN matters to other things. Some final advice: If you're looking to attract good volunteers to work in this community, rethink your processes. Regards, Beau Brendler **************************************************************************** ******** SCANNED **************************************************************************** ********
Brendler, Beau wrote:
This morning in the board liaison candidacy discussion, Alan Greenberg asked me a question that went something like, "considering the NA region is calling for your resignation because you don't have time for your ALAC duties as they currently stand, why should we vote for you for board liaison?"
So far the only comment of this kind has come from Danny. The "NA region", so far as I can tell, is not calling for anything. In response to the performance document sent by staff and Danny's suggestions, I have had a lengthy talk with the chair of ALAC on this issue and will not deal with it further until she has. On a logical level -- a resignation request at this point is dumb because you're at the end of your term. On an informal level -- Not only do I have no intention of asking for your resignation, it's my hope that you can serve as our ALAC rep for another two years.
But if the NA-RALO is indeed asking for my resignation, I would have appreciated the opportunity to address it in another forum beforehand, or would have appreciated hearing it directly from the elected chair of the NA-RALO rather than from a nomcom appointee. Sigh.
I really hope this was just a misunderstanding. There was certainly NO intent from me that you would be put in that needlessly embarrassing situation. To make it absolutely clear; There is NO call for Beau's resignation being considered by NARALO. - Evan
Evan, I appreciate your response, and didn't think for a minute you intended to put me in an embarrassing situation. I also appreciate the appeal to logic. Thanks Beau -----Original Message----- From: Evan Leibovitch [mailto:evan@telly.org] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 3:50 PM To: Brendler, Beau Cc: NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] This whole resignation thing Brendler, Beau wrote:
This morning in the board liaison candidacy discussion, Alan Greenberg asked me a question that went something like, "considering the NA region is calling for your resignation because you don't have time for your ALAC duties as they currently stand, why should we vote for you for board liaison?"
So far the only comment of this kind has come from Danny. The "NA region", so far as I can tell, is not calling for anything. In response to the performance document sent by staff and Danny's suggestions, I have had a lengthy talk with the chair of ALAC on this issue and will not deal with it further until she has. On a logical level -- a resignation request at this point is dumb because you're at the end of your term. On an informal level -- Not only do I have no intention of asking for your resignation, it's my hope that you can serve as our ALAC rep for another two years.
But if the NA-RALO is indeed asking for my resignation, I would have appreciated the opportunity to address it in another forum beforehand, or would have appreciated hearing it directly from the elected chair of the NA-RALO rather than from a nomcom appointee. Sigh.
I really hope this was just a misunderstanding. There was certainly NO intent from me that you would be put in that needlessly embarrassing situation. To make it absolutely clear; There is NO call for Beau's resignation being considered by NARALO. - Evan *** Scanned **************************************************************************** ******** SCANNED **************************************************************************** ********
OMG. Speaking as the Secretariat of the region there have been NO such conversations from the NA region except by one person. I, and others, realize that just looking at the numbers do not give the entire picture of what a person is actually doing. I, and many others, are VERY appreciative of all of the work that you have been putting in and are willing to "go to bat" for you. Speaking for myself and for Evan (who is knee deep in work right now but we've discussed this so I feel that I can): we REALLY hope that you will continue in your ALAC role (pending other nominations and the election). Yourself and Consumers Union have proven to be a HUGE benefit to our region and I would hate to see you leave on something like this. I can't speak about the liaison position, seeing that I don't have a vote or opinion on that. You've been active in outreach and in working groups (something that many haven't been doing). At every ICANN meeting that you and I have been at, you've been at EVERY ALAC session (more than I can say about other ALAC members that I've observed) and putting in scads of hours on this. Cheryl has told me that she will be contacting each ALAC member who's numbers aren't "up to par" and discussing it on a case-by-case means. We *do* need to have accountability built into ALAC but I, personally, believe that you have been exemplary - you just got caught by the numbers. We NEED to have other means of accountability built into this and Cheryl is working on it. You will remember from Paris that she tried to do this but, because of miscommunication, it was foiled. If you go back through the NA-Discuss list, you will notice that there has been NO other comments on this except by Danny and nobody else has responded (sorry, Danny, but I've seen what Beau does that isn't covered by the numbers). If this was a "regional concern" you would have seen responses to those e-mails. I have absolutely no feeling that it is a regional concern at all. Please don't leave!!! D NOTE: This e-mail is being sent by myself, speaking for myself personally, as Secretariat of the region and on behalf of my ALS. Nothing said above should be seen as coming from any government whatsoever. Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 E-mail: dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Brendler, Beau Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 3:00 PM To: NA Discuss Subject: [NA-Discuss] This whole resignation thing Dear NA: This morning in the board liaison candidacy discussion, Alan Greenberg asked me a question that went something like, "considering the NA region is calling for your resignation because you don't have time for your ALAC duties as they currently stand, why should we vote for you for board liaison?" Putting aside the board liaison candidacy thing for a moment, I need to get clear on something. If I misinterpreted the question (I don't think I did), feel free to ignore this note. If Alan's question comes from some sort of bias for Wendy's candidacy versus mine, well hey, that's OK, I'm a big boy and I don't really see that as a problem. The ALAC will vote for whom it votes. But if the NA-RALO is indeed asking for my resignation, I would have appreciated the opportunity to address it in another forum beforehand, or would have appreciated hearing it directly from the elected chair of the NA-RALO rather than from a nomcom appointee. Or, for that matter, I would have appreciated hearing about it from the chair of the ALAC. If it's indeed the case, you'll have my resignation in 24 hours -- (914) 378-2018 until 5:30 EST. It would be great to know before the weekend starts, so I can devote time I would have spent on ICANN matters to other things. Some final advice: If you're looking to attract good volunteers to work in this community, rethink your processes. Regards, Beau Brendler ************************************************************************ **** ******** SCANNED ************************************************************************ **** ******** ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists .icann.org Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Speaking for myself and for Evan (who is knee deep in work right now but we've discussed this so I feel that I can): we REALLY hope that you will continue in your ALAC role (pending other nominations and the election).
Well, I *am* knee-deep in work, but stuff like this just doesn't get ignored. I do indeed agree completely with what Darlene said. - Evan
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