Re: [NA-Discuss] Pre-registrations
Danny, I've thought about this now for a day, and I've run through tolerance of consumer deception, indifference to the plight of hoodwinked domainers, and I'm glad to see Antony's managed to find historical advisories, which if the corporation staff has remaining institutional memory, and purpose, it can recycle. However, I keep coming to a balance of interests question. Not a "is it in scope? question, but an "is it more important than ...? question. It is two weeks before some NARALO and other RALO members will be able to join the ALAC executive and gather information concerning and advocate for the public interest, in what is probably the most effective venue -- the tri-annual public meetings. I hope the ALAC will articulate a public interest statement of position on the proposed renewal of Verisign's contract to operate the .net registry. I hope the ALAC will broaden and deepen a working relationship with the state sovereignty focused public interest advisory group -- the GAC. I hope the ALAC will ... And in these I mean that the individuals receiving travel support from the corporation by virtue of their offices will act on questions identified long before the date at which they start tossing socks and stacks of docs into their travel bags before traveling to the current public meeting venue. So at the end of a day of balance of interest reflection, even if ICANN were joining in "sales of ready-to-occupy, residential-zoned lunar real estate", I want our representatives favored by travel support to ignore United Domains, and many other warts and boils. I do not think you've pointed out something out of scope, only that it is minor relative to the major issues of monopoly power, absence of public interest participation in private interest favoring policy development, lack of transparency and accountability, and so on. I have what I hope is a constructive suggestion. That the diffuse set of projects that observe and document problematic registrar activities add "pre-registrations" by registrars and their resellers to the acts that are periodically reported to ICANN's registrar compliance function, and to the relevant public agencies, and the issue of deceptive marketing be added to the Registrar Contract advice offered to the Board by the Advisory Group. Eric
On 7 Jun 2011, at 15:09, <ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net> <ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net> wrote:
I have what I hope is a constructive suggestion. That the diffuse set of projects that observe and document problematic registrar activities add "pre-registrations" by registrars and their resellers to the acts that are periodically reported to ICANN's registrar compliance function, and to the relevant public agencies, and the issue of deceptive marketing be added to the Registrar Contract advice offered to the Board by the Advisory Group.
Eric ------
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Eric, You raise several valid points. With regard to an ALAC Statement on the proposed renewal of Verisign's contract to operate the .net registry, the ALAC has already generated a Statement that may be found here: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/14713246/AL-ALAC-ST-0511-3+... I concur with your observation that those in receipt of travel support by virtue of their offices should be better attuned to the needs of the community they serve. I, speaking just for myself, will admit to hoping for an enhanced level of communication from the office of the NARALO Secretariat. Beyond that, I continue to be astounded by the appalling lack of discussion to be found in the ALAC archives (not a new development, but disappointing nonetheless). I'm similarly troubled by the lack of "work" being done within most ALAC Working Groups and Committees (where discussion levels tend to approach "non-existent"). Finally, as NARALO officers have already weighed in on this topic, I am confident that your concerns are being noted and will likely be addressed in the immediate future..
Danny, Please be specific when you ask for "an enhanced level of communication from the office of the NARALO Secretariat". In what way has this been lacking? Just the other night you IMed me at home during my personal time with an ICANN matter that had nothing to do with our region and I responded to it immediately and followed up on it the next morning since I hadn't heard anything that night. I forward everything that is sent to me by staff onto the list and follow up. I made sure that we were well represented in San Francisco and did tons of work making sure that my end was looked after including liaising with LACRALO who had done a showcase before. Darlene Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 E-mail: dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Danny Younger Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:45 PM To: ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net Cc: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Pre-registrations Eric, You raise several valid points. With regard to an ALAC Statement on the proposed renewal of Verisign's contract to operate the .net registry, the ALAC has already generated a Statement that may be found here: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/14713246/AL-ALAC-ST-0511-3+... I concur with your observation that those in receipt of travel support by virtue of their offices should be better attuned to the needs of the community they serve. I, speaking just for myself, will admit to hoping for an enhanced level of communication from the office of the NARALO Secretariat. Beyond that, I continue to be astounded by the appalling lack of discussion to be found in the ALAC archives (not a new development, but disappointing nonetheless). I'm similarly troubled by the lack of "work" being done within most ALAC Working Groups and Committees (where discussion levels tend to approach "non-existent"). Finally, as NARALO officers have already weighed in on this topic, I am confident that your concerns are being noted and will likely be addressed in the immediate future.. ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
Hello Darlene, My comment was not meant to imply any current deficiency of service, rather it asked for enhanced service. By that I mean the following: when significant reports or notifications from the community emerge (such as the JAS Milestone report) it would be appreciated if the Secretariat might be able to direct our attention to those items. timely reminders that scheduled ALAC and/or ICANN public comment periods are about to expire would also be a helpful addition. it might also be helpful if pointers could be provided to ALAC Statements as they are released. Hoping that you accept these suggestions in the spirit intended. Thanks, Danny --- On Tue, 6/7/11, Thompson, Darlene <DThompson1@gov.nu.ca> wrote:
From: Thompson, Darlene <DThompson1@gov.nu.ca> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Pre-registrations To: "na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 1:17 PM Danny,
Please be specific when you ask for "an enhanced level of communication from the office of the NARALO Secretariat". In what way has this been lacking?
Just the other night you IMed me at home during my personal time with an ICANN matter that had nothing to do with our region and I responded to it immediately and followed up on it the next morning since I hadn't heard anything that night.
I forward everything that is sent to me by staff onto the list and follow up. I made sure that we were well represented in San Francisco and did tons of work making sure that my end was looked after including liaising with LACRALO who had done a showcase before.
Darlene
Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 E-mail: dthompson@gov.nu.ca
-----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Danny Younger Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:45 PM To: ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net Cc: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Pre-registrations
Eric,
You raise several valid points.
With regard to an ALAC Statement on the proposed renewal of Verisign's contract to operate the .net registry, the ALAC has already generated a Statement that may be found here:
https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/14713246/AL-ALAC-ST-0511-3+...
I concur with your observation that those in receipt of travel support by virtue of their offices should be better attuned to the needs of the community they serve. I, speaking just for myself, will admit to hoping for an enhanced level of communication from the office of the NARALO Secretariat.
Beyond that, I continue to be astounded by the appalling lack of discussion to be found in the ALAC archives (not a new development, but disappointing nonetheless).
I'm similarly troubled by the lack of "work" being done within most ALAC Working Groups and Committees (where discussion levels tend to approach "non-existent").
Finally, as NARALO officers have already weighed in on this topic, I am confident that your concerns are being noted and will likely be addressed in the immediate future..
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I think that those are all reasonable things to be distributed. When there is some region-specific need to communicate, it should come from regional people. However, most or all of what you are describing should be sent to all At-Large folks, via either the ALAC-Announce or At-Large mailing lists. A quick check of the Announce archive shows that at least some of this is being done. But clearly not all that should be done. Is there really a need to echo this on the regional list when there is not a specific NA work-product in mind? Anyone receiving such a message can clearly take up the subject on the regional list if they feel the need. Alan At 07/06/2011 01:42 PM, Danny Younger wrote:
Hello Darlene,
My comment was not meant to imply any current deficiency of service, rather it asked for enhanced service. By that I mean the following:
when significant reports or notifications from the community emerge (such as the JAS Milestone report) it would be appreciated if the Secretariat might be able to direct our attention to those items.
timely reminders that scheduled ALAC and/or ICANN public comment periods are about to expire would also be a helpful addition.
it might also be helpful if pointers could be provided to ALAC Statements as they are released.
Hoping that you accept these suggestions in the spirit intended.
Thanks, Danny
--- On Tue, 6/7/11, Thompson, Darlene <DThompson1@gov.nu.ca> wrote:
From: Thompson, Darlene <DThompson1@gov.nu.ca> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Pre-registrations To: "na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 1:17 PM Danny,
Please be specific when you ask for "an enhanced level of communication from the office of the NARALO Secretariat". In what way has this been lacking?
Just the other night you IMed me at home during my personal time with an ICANN matter that had nothing to do with our region and I responded to it immediately and followed up on it the next morning since I hadn't heard anything that night.
I forward everything that is sent to me by staff onto the list and follow up. I made sure that we were well represented in San Francisco and did tons of work making sure that my end was looked after including liaising with LACRALO who had done a showcase before.
Darlene
Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 E-mail: dthompson@gov.nu.ca
-----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Danny Younger Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:45 PM To: ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net Cc: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Pre-registrations
Eric,
You raise several valid points.
With regard to an ALAC Statement on the proposed renewal of Verisign's contract to operate the .net registry, the ALAC has already generated a Statement that may be found here:
https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/14713246/AL-ALAC-ST-0511-3+...
I concur with your observation that those in receipt of travel support by virtue of their offices should be better attuned to the needs of the community they serve. I, speaking just for myself, will admit to hoping for an enhanced level of communication from the office of the NARALO Secretariat.
Beyond that, I continue to be astounded by the appalling lack of discussion to be found in the ALAC archives (not a new development, but disappointing nonetheless).
I'm similarly troubled by the lack of "work" being done within most ALAC Working Groups and Committees (where discussion levels tend to approach "non-existent").
Finally, as NARALO officers have already weighed in on this topic, I am confident that your concerns are being noted and will likely be addressed in the immediate future..
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Hello Alan, If it can be arranged that such services are provided by Staff via the Announce List, then of course there would be no need to ask the NARALO Secretariat for such. Can such arrangements be made? --- On Tue, 6/7/11, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Pre-registrations To: "Danny Younger" <dannyyounger@yahoo.com>, "na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "DarleneThompson" <DThompson1@gov.nu.ca> Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 2:16 PM I think that those are all reasonable things to be distributed. When there is some region-specific need to communicate, it should come from regional people. However, most or all of what you are describing should be sent to all At-Large folks, via either the ALAC-Announce or At-Large mailing lists.
A quick check of the Announce archive shows that at least some of this is being done. But clearly not all that should be done.
Is there really a need to echo this on the regional list when there is not a specific NA work-product in mind? Anyone receiving such a message can clearly take up the subject on the regional list if they feel the need.
Alan
At 07/06/2011 01:42 PM, Danny Younger wrote:
Hello Darlene,
My comment was not meant to imply any current deficiency of service, rather it asked for enhanced service. By that I mean the following:
when significant reports or notifications from the community emerge (such as the JAS Milestone report) it would be appreciated if the Secretariat might be able to direct our attention to those items.
timely reminders that scheduled ALAC and/or ICANN public comment periods are about to expire would also be a helpful addition.
it might also be helpful if pointers could be provided to ALAC Statements as they are released.
Hoping that you accept these suggestions in the spirit intended.
Hi Eric, On 7 June 2011 10:09, <ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net> wrote:
I've thought about this now for a day, and I've run through tolerance of consumer deception, indifference to the plight of hoodwinked domainers, and I'm glad to see Antony's managed to find historical advisories, which if the corporation staff has remaining institutional memory, and purpose, it can recycle.
If I recall correctly, there is a minimum of editing to do to make the decade-old doc current. Perhaps it this should be standing and permanent advice, offered through a few channels -- maybe suggested to the SSAC to add to their tutorial dicumentation -- maybe the next idea for Scott Pinzon's growing library of "ICANN Start" podcasts. - Evan
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