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Having watched the RegisterFly debacle unfold on a day-by-day basis for quite some time I have come to realize that we have a need to develop new policies to better protect the registrant community. In particular, I have read many allegations along these lines: "A number of domains were hijacked by RF changing domain contact details". This type of transfer is not covered by the Consensus Policy on Transfer of Registrations Between Registrars because it does not happen "between" registrars but rather through a single registrar. What we need is a policy to govern transfers between registrants at a single registrar so that the interests of all parties to the transfer may be protected. We don't want to have registrants at the mercy of the capricious whims of a rogue actor. If a change of registrant is enacted in such a manner, a process must be in place to dispute improper changes to the registration record. I call upon this community to request an issues report on this subject so that the GNSO may develop appropriate policy. regards, Danny Younger ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121
I agree. I think we need a working group to deal with registrant issues and reccommend policy changes. Randy Glass A@L On 5/18/07, Danny Younger <dannyyounger@yahoo.com> wrote:
Having watched the RegisterFly debacle unfold on a day-by-day basis for quite some time I have come to realize that we have a need to develop new policies to better protect the registrant community.
In particular, I have read many allegations along these lines: "A number of domains were 'hijacked' by RF changing domain contact details".
This type of transfer is not covered by the Consensus Policy on Transfer of Registrations Between Registrars because it does not happen "between" registrars but rather through a single registrar.
What we need is a policy to govern transfers between registrants at a single registrar so that the interests of all parties to the transfer may be protected.
We don't want to have registrants at the mercy of the capricious whims of a rogue actor. If a change of registrant is enacted in such a manner, a process must be in place to dispute improper changes to the registration record.
I call upon this community to request an issues report on this subject so that the GNSO may develop appropriate policy.
regards, Danny Younger
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Hi Randy, Danny Do you want to set up some terms of reference for this working group to function? We can put out a call for members from the other regions as well and create an at-large working group to work on these registrant issues… we are also working on the workshops for San Juan– some suggestions have already come in for a session on registrar/registrant issues at San Juan. It would be cool if you could participate in that planning as well. Thanks Jacqueline From: RJGlass | America@Large [mailto:jipshida@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:40 PM To: Danny Younger Cc: ga@gnso.icann.org; NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Request for Issues Report I agree. I think we need a working group to deal with registrant issues and reccommend policy changes. Randy Glass A@L On 5/18/07, Danny Younger <HYPERLINK "mailto:dannyyounger@yahoo.com"dannyyounger@yahoo.com> wrote: Having watched the RegisterFly debacle unfold on a day-by-day basis for quite some time I have come to realize that we have a need to develop new policies to better protect the registrant community. In particular, I have read many allegations along these lines: "A number of domains were 'hijacked' by RF changing domain contact details". This type of transfer is not covered by the Consensus Policy on Transfer of Registrations Between Registrars because it does not happen "between" registrars but rather through a single registrar. What we need is a policy to govern transfers between registrants at a single registrar so that the interests of all parties to the transfer may be protected. We don't want to have registrants at the mercy of the capricious whims of a rogue actor. If a change of registrant is enacted in such a manner, a process must be in place to dispute improper changes to the registration record. I call upon this community to request an issues report on this subject so that the GNSO may develop appropriate policy. regards, Danny Younger ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. HYPERLINK "http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121"http://videogames.yaho o.com/platform?platform=120121 _______________________________________________ NA-Discuss mailing list HYPERLINK "mailto:NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org"NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.or g HYPERLINK "http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ic ann.org"http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-l ists.icann.org --- Draft MoU with ICANN: HYPERLINK "http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU"http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU Draft Operating Principles: HYPERLINK "http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP"http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP Draft Code of Conduct: HYPERLINK "http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct"http://www.icannwiki.org/NA RALO_Code_of_Conduct -- ------------------------- AmericaAtLarge.org RJPacific.com DDMF.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.5/812 - Release Date: 5/19/2007 1:52 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.5/812 - Release Date: 5/19/2007 1:52 PM
Yes, let's discuss this in San Juan. I'll volunteer to participate, how can I help? Randy Glass A@L On 5/20/07, Jacqueline A. Morris <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> wrote:
Hi Randy, Danny
Do you want to set up some terms of reference for this working group to function? We can put out a call for members from the other regions as well and create an at-large working group to work on these registrant issues… we are also working on the workshops for San Juan– some suggestions have already come in for a session on registrar/registrant issues at San Juan. It would be cool if you could participate in that planning as well.
Thanks
Jacqueline
*From:* RJGlass | America@Large [mailto:jipshida@gmail.com] *Sent:* Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:40 PM *To:* Danny Younger *Cc:* ga@gnso.icann.org; NA Discuss *Subject:* Re: [NA-Discuss] Request for Issues Report
I agree. I think we need a working group to deal with registrant issues and reccommend policy changes.
Randy Glass A@L
On 5/18/07, *Danny Younger* <dannyyounger@yahoo.com> wrote:
Having watched the RegisterFly debacle unfold on a day-by-day basis for quite some time I have come to realize that we have a need to develop new policies to better protect the registrant community.
In particular, I have read many allegations along these lines: "A number of domains were 'hijacked' by RF changing domain contact details".
This type of transfer is not covered by the Consensus Policy on Transfer of Registrations Between Registrars because it does not happen "between" registrars but rather through a single registrar.
What we need is a policy to govern transfers between registrants at a single registrar so that the interests of all parties to the transfer may be protected.
We don't want to have registrants at the mercy of the capricious whims of a rogue actor. If a change of registrant is enacted in such a manner, a process must be in place to dispute improper changes to the registration record.
I call upon this community to request an issues report on this subject so that the GNSO may develop appropriate policy.
regards, Danny Younger
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Hi Randy Nick is working on the San Juan registrant session. Ive copied ths reply to him so he can liaise with you about where they are with it and what you can do to assist. With regard to the working group, we can discuss at the next ALAC meeting and agree to set this one up, if you’re willing to work on what the objectives are, timeframe, workplan… Jacqueline From: RJGlass | America@Large [mailto:jipshida@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 12:05 AM To: jam@jacquelinemorris.com Cc: Danny Younger; ga@gnso.icann.org; NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Request for Issues Report Yes, let's discuss this in San Juan. I'll volunteer to participate, how can I help? Randy Glass A@L On 5/20/07, Jacqueline A. Morris < HYPERLINK "mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com"jam@jacquelinemorris.com> wrote: Hi Randy, Danny Do you want to set up some terms of reference for this working group to function? We can put out a call for members from the other regions as well and create an at-large working group to work on these registrant issues… we are also working on the workshops for San Juan– some suggestions have already come in for a session on registrar/registrant issues at San Juan. It would be cool if you could participate in that planning as well. Thanks Jacqueline From: RJGlass | America@Large [mailto:HYPERLINK "mailto:jipshida@gmail.com" \njipshida@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:40 PM To: Danny Younger Cc: HYPERLINK "mailto:ga@gnso.icann.org" \nga@gnso.icann.org; NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Request for Issues Report I agree. I think we need a working group to deal with registrant issues and reccommend policy changes. Randy Glass A@L On 5/18/07, Danny Younger <HYPERLINK "mailto:dannyyounger@yahoo.com" \ndannyyounger@yahoo.com> wrote: Having watched the RegisterFly debacle unfold on a day-by-day basis for quite some time I have come to realize that we have a need to develop new policies to better protect the registrant community. In particular, I have read many allegations along these lines: "A number of domains were 'hijacked' by RF changing domain contact details". This type of transfer is not covered by the Consensus Policy on Transfer of Registrations Between Registrars because it does not happen "between" registrars but rather through a single registrar. What we need is a policy to govern transfers between registrants at a single registrar so that the interests of all parties to the transfer may be protected. We don't want to have registrants at the mercy of the capricious whims of a rogue actor. If a change of registrant is enacted in such a manner, a process must be in place to dispute improper changes to the registration record. I call upon this community to request an issues report on this subject so that the GNSO may develop appropriate policy. regards, Danny Younger ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. HYPERLINK "http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121" \nhttp://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 _______________________________________________ NA-Discuss mailing list HYPERLINK "mailto:NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" \nNA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org HYPERLINK "http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ic ann.org" \nhttp://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.i cann.org --- Draft MoU with ICANN: HYPERLINK "http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU" \nhttp://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU Draft Operating Principles: HYPERLINK "http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP" \nhttp://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP Draft Code of Conduct: HYPERLINK "http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct" \nhttp://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct -- ------------------------- AmericaAtLarge.org RJPacific.com DDMF.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.5/812 - Release Date: 5/19/2007 1:52 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.5/812 - Release Date: 5/19/2007 1:52 PM -- ------------------------- AmericaAtLarge.org RJPacific.com DDMF.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/818 - Release Date: 5/25/2007 12:32 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM
OK, sounds good. Could you give me a referencee as to what is needed, I'll adjust it to this working group. Thanks, Randy Glass A@L On 5/27/07, Jacqueline A. Morris <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> wrote:
Hi Randy
Nick is working on the San Juan registrant session. Ive copied ths reply to him so he can liaise with you about where they are with it and what you can do to assist.
With regard to the working group, we can discuss at the next ALAC meeting and agree to set this one up, if you're willing to work on what the objectives are, timeframe, workplan…
Jacqueline
*From:* RJGlass | America@Large [mailto:jipshida@gmail.com] *Sent:* Sunday, May 27, 2007 12:05 AM *To:* jam@jacquelinemorris.com *Cc:* Danny Younger; ga@gnso.icann.org; NA Discuss *Subject:* Re: [NA-Discuss] Request for Issues Report
Yes, let's discuss this in San Juan. I'll volunteer to participate, how can I help?
Randy Glass A@L
On 5/20/07, *Jacqueline A. Morris* < jam@jacquelinemorris.com> wrote:
Hi Randy, Danny
Do you want to set up some terms of reference for this working group to function? We can put out a call for members from the other regions as well and create an at-large working group to work on these registrant issues… we are also working on the workshops for San Juan– some suggestions have already come in for a session on registrar/registrant issues at San Juan. It would be cool if you could participate in that planning as well.
Thanks
Jacqueline
*From:* RJGlass | America@Large [mailto:jipshida@gmail.com] *Sent:* Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:40 PM *To:* Danny Younger *Cc:* ga@gnso.icann.org; NA Discuss *Subject:* Re: [NA-Discuss] Request for Issues Report
I agree. I think we need a working group to deal with registrant issues and reccommend policy changes.
Randy Glass A@L
On 5/18/07, *Danny Younger* <dannyyounger@yahoo.com> wrote:
Having watched the RegisterFly debacle unfold on a day-by-day basis for quite some time I have come to realize that we have a need to develop new policies to better protect the registrant community.
In particular, I have read many allegations along these lines: "A number of domains were 'hijacked' by RF changing domain contact details".
This type of transfer is not covered by the Consensus Policy on Transfer of Registrations Between Registrars because it does not happen "between" registrars but rather through a single registrar.
What we need is a policy to govern transfers between registrants at a single registrar so that the interests of all parties to the transfer may be protected.
We don't want to have registrants at the mercy of the capricious whims of a rogue actor. If a change of registrant is enacted in such a manner, a process must be in place to dispute improper changes to the registration record.
I call upon this community to request an issues report on this subject so that the GNSO may develop appropriate policy.
regards, Danny Younger
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