Free Speech and Introduction of gTLDs
Seth inadvertently sent his email from an address other than the one he is subscribed with so it bounced; he asked me to send it on to you :) The subject line is my understanding of the subject of his comments, modified from the digest heading. Begin forwarded message:
From: "Seth M. Reiss" <seth.reiss@lex-ip.com> Date: 28 June 2007 02:58:57 GMT-04:00 To: "'Nick Ashton-Hart'" <nashton@spamcop.net> Subject: FW: NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 8, Issue 75 - Free Speech
Hey Nick
For some reason, my messages are not getting through to the NA- Discuss List. Perhaps you can push this one through for me and then provide me with a tutorial about what exactly I am doing wrong.
Thanks.
Seth
-----Original Message----- From: Seth Reiss [mailto:sethreiss@hawaiiantel.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:59 PM To: seth.reiss@lex-ip.com Subject: FW: NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 8, Issue 75 - Free Speech
-----Original Message----- From: Seth Reiss [mailto:sethreiss@hawaiiantel.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:55 PM To: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: RE: NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 8, Issue 75 - Free Speech
Dear Fellow Naroloins
As I explained at the dinner last evening, my concern is that taking an overly enthusiastic position in favor of free speech is, in my view, likely to stall the process of introducing new gTLDs even further and, in the end, do a disservice to free speech and communities whose language is expressed in non-ASCII community. I am particularly concerned with the latter and was enlightened by the comments of the National University of Singapore prof who spoke at the Freedom of Expression forum. I believe a model similar to the UDRP will offer an appropriate balance between free speech interests and brand owners. I am not sure it will adequately protect those who live on the other side of the digital divide as a result of having non-ASCII character languages and would be in favor of tweaking the model, as necessary, to better address this unique issue.
Regards,
Seth
-----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of na-discuss-request@atlarge-lists.icann.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:05 AM To: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 8, Issue 75
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Today's Topics:
1. IPv6 for Community Networks, Community WIreless, etc. (Michael Maranda) 2. Keep the Core Neutral (Michael Maranda) 3. Re: Keep the Core Neutral (Nick Ashton-Hart) 4. Re: Keep the Core Neutral (Michael Maranda)
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:07:08 -0500 From: "Michael Maranda" <mmaranda@afcn.org> Subject: [NA-Discuss] IPv6 for Community Networks, Community WIreless, etc. To: "NA Discuss" <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <3feff8d60706271007l6ed06dd7s8b47a32954971d5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Sascha Meinrath is active in Community Wireless and Community Media, and has headed CUWiN project for some time.
He has some good ideas for the IPv6 space, linked here: http://lists.chambana.net/mailman/archive/cu-wireless-dev/2005- April/000402. html
As stated in the email archived above, Free Press has also had interest in this topic.
-MM
Hi Seth. And thanks, Nick, for getting Seth's mail to the list.
As I explained at the dinner last evening, my concern is that taking an overly enthusiastic position in favor of free speech is, in my view, likely to stall the process of introducing new gTLDs even further and, in the end, do a disservice to free speech and communities whose language is expressed in non-ASCII community. I hear you. I was even coherent enough to hear you last night. :-) Being across the table it was hard to answer easily at the time, but your points are well taken.
As it is, it's my understanding that there's a moratorium on any new gTLDs being approved until the application process review is complete; different points of view told me that this could be by June, or possibly dragging into 2009 -- regardless of the stance on this particular issue. Every ICANN process I've witnessed to date -- except for our own :-) -- seems to go agonizingly slow. The whole Ombudsman/ALAC issue is a testimony to that, regardless of where one chooses to launch the blame. I think it's unfair to single out a single issue such as Keep the Core Neutral as the source of this glacial pace. So far as I can tell, the KtCN campaign is all about simplification, about the reduction of the number of hoops a registry must jump through. The draft application process introduces a number of new criteria, which will certainly impact the speed at which they can be reviewed and processed. Indeed, the KtCN advocates, from what I can tell, would be happier to keep the current process, flawed as it is (witness the purely political effort against .xxx) compared to the proposed changes. I'm sorry, Seth, but I personally can't abandon such an important principle as free expression out of a need for expediency, especially when there's no indication that abandoning such advocacy will speed the process. There are constituencies here who are trying to manipulate ICANN to impose cultural-specific bias such as morality into the decision-making process. There is a reasonable concern that, if every proposed gTLD has to survive every possible cultural (and alleged "rights-holder") objection, we could achieve gridlock very quickly. As for the issue of multi-byte-character domain names, the process for implementing that appears relatively independent of the gTLD approval mechanism under review. Please consider that the current proposal for gTLDs would exponentially slow the approval process, because one must evaluate 'immoral expression' across multiple character sets. Do you know what Chinese or Greek-character words would be obscenities in those countries' cultures? In our? I know that I don't. I appreciate your comments and share your concern about the horribly slow pace at which TLD approval -- like so much else (ie, ALS approval) takes place. But obviously those with political agendas they wish to impose upon ICANN have no interest in expediency -- else why would such broad, complex and contentious changed have been brought forward in the first place?
I am particularly concerned with the latter and was enlightened by the comments of the National University of Singapore prof who spoke at the Freedom of Expression forum. I believe a model similar to the UDRP will offer an appropriate balance between free speech interests and brand owners. The issue IMO is not totally one of brand owners -- I agree that a UDRP could handle that. But what about the examples given, such as .gay or .killthegays, which are acceptable in some cultures and taboo in others? How does a conventional dispute resolution system apply in instances where a _term_ is deemed illegal in some countries? What compromise is possible, short of outright prohibition, that would be acceptable to the censors?
I hope that the criteria of "respect the rights of others" works both ways. While it was introduced to assert the protections of trademark holders, this criteria should (IMO) also apply in asserting the rights of the public, in enforcing the well-defined limits of trademark entitlements. Cheers, - Evan
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