20 August 1400 UTC: Briefing Session on the Amendments on the RAA
Dear all, We would like to invite you to a briefing and discussion session attended by Tim Cole, Chief Registrar Liaison, and the At-Large RAA Working Group and members of the At-Large community on the Draft amendments to the Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA). The public consultation period on the RAA has recently ended in English, but the consultation materials were posted in French and Spanish on 6th August and comments in those languages will be taken until the end of August. The At-Large community will be developing its views, incorporating the viewpoints of its Spanish and French-speaking participants, as follow-up actions from the briefing. The teleconference will provide an opportunity for all participants to ask questions and discuss the RAA Amendments consultation and documents and for those in the Spanish and French-speaking communities to receive any background information on the RAA, its history and the reasons that led to the creation of the amendments that they require. Participants are requested to provide their comments or questions in advance, to the extent possible, at the following URL by using the Comment¹ button at the top of the page: https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?draft_amendments_to_raa You will also find participation instructions on this page. Presenters/Moderators: Tim Cole, Chief Registrar Liaison, oversees the registrar new and renewal accreditation process. He has been intensively involved in the RAA consultation process. Beau Brendler is an ALAC member from North America and the ALAC focal point for the At-Large Registrar Registrant Relations Working Group. Background Information: The Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA) is the contract that governs the relationship between ICANN and its approximately 900 accredited registrars. The current agreement has been in place since May 2001. As the market has developed and the number of ICANN accredited registrars and domain name registrations have grown significantly, it has become clear that certain amendments should be made to this important agreement. The amendments are intended to provide clarity and certainty regarding the duties of registrars and the rights of registrants. In March 2007, Dr. Paul Twomey, President and CEO of ICANN called for a comprehensive review of the RAA and the Accreditation process. The results of that review included a Board resolution describing an approach for arriving at and implementing amendments. In accordance with that resolution, ICANN has solicited public input for possible changes to the RAA and the accreditation process. The Staff has drafted a set of proposed amendments in accordance with that input, information received at workshops and public fora to date, and consultations with the gTLD Registrar Constituency. The Teleconference is scheduled on Wednesday, 20 August at 1400 UTC. There will be simultaneous interpretation in French and Spanish. All ICANN stakeholder community members are welcome to participate, especially those who are primarily French and/or Spanish-speakers. Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff@atlarge.icann.org
At-Large Staff wrote:
We would like to invite you to a briefing and discussion session attended by Tim Cole, Chief Registrar Liaison, and the At-Large RAA Working Group and members of the At-Large community on the Draft amendments to the Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA). The public consultation period on the RAA has recently ended in English, but the consultation materials were posted in French and Spanish on 6th August and comments in those languages will be taken until the end of August.
So let me get this straight. A briefing on the RAA is happening _after_ the deadline for comments has passed, unless the comments are in French or Spanish in which case comments are still accepted. To compound the irony, it is likely that the primary language of the briefing will be English, the home tongue of both Tim and Beau. - Evan
That is indeed correct - this is quite deliberate. Since it was clear that the materials would take some time to translate into Spanish and French, and because Cheryl (and others on ALAC) felt it was important that all of At-Large - English, French, and Spanish speakers alike - should be able to participate in forming an At-Large position on the RAA Amendments, we waited to setup the briefing until the materials were ready, and then allowed a few days (actually about 2 weeks) for the spanish and french speakers to read the documents in advance of the briefing. ICANN Staff are aware that At-Large was deliberately waiting to make a statement as a whole community until after the translations were ready We are doing our best to provide all of At-Large with equal ability to review and comment on important subjects such as the RAA. We don't always succeed - in this instance I think we actually have. I hope very much that everyone looks carefully at these important documents since they affect all those who register a domain. On 12/08/2008 15:07, "Evan Leibovitch" <evan@telly.org> wrote: At-Large Staff wrote:
We would like to invite you to a briefing and discussion session attended by Tim Cole, Chief Registrar Liaison, and the At-Large RAA Working Group and members of the At-Large community on the Draft amendments to the Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA). The public consultation period on the RAA has recently ended in English, but the consultation materials were posted in French and Spanish on 6th August and comments in those languages will be taken until the end of August.
So let me get this straight. A briefing on the RAA is happening _after_ the deadline for comments has passed, unless the comments are in French or Spanish in which case comments are still accepted. To compound the irony, it is likely that the primary language of the briefing will be English, the home tongue of both Tim and Beau. - Evan -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director for At-Large Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA DD: +1 (310) 578-8637 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart
Nick and all, Seems due to the fact that "I" am being Censored on the ALAC, and the fact that the RAA WG ML was very light on discussion regarding this subject/issue area, as well as there has already been one other RAAWG in May of last year, it seem rather odd that now again that there is to be a "Briefing". It also seems more than just ironic and odd that there has already been a number of very good recomendations for amending the RAA's, that are now not included in the "Briefing" documentation to which you refer. Nick Ashton-Hart wrote:
That is indeed correct - this is quite deliberate.
Since it was clear that the materials would take some time to translate into Spanish and French, and because Cheryl (and others on ALAC) felt it was important that all of At-Large - English, French, and Spanish speakers alike - should be able to participate in forming an At-Large position on the RAA Amendments, we waited to setup the briefing until the materials were ready, and then allowed a few days (actually about 2 weeks) for the spanish and french speakers to read the documents in advance of the briefing. ICANN Staff are aware that At-Large was deliberately waiting to make a statement as a whole community until after the translations were ready
We are doing our best to provide all of At-Large with equal ability to review and comment on important subjects such as the RAA. We don't always succeed - in this instance I think we actually have.
I hope very much that everyone looks carefully at these important documents since they affect all those who register a domain.
On 12/08/2008 15:07, "Evan Leibovitch" <evan@telly.org> wrote:
At-Large Staff wrote:
We would like to invite you to a briefing and discussion session attended by Tim Cole, Chief Registrar Liaison, and the At-Large RAA Working Group and members of the At-Large community on the Draft amendments to the Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA). The public consultation period on the RAA has recently ended in English, but the consultation materials were posted in French and Spanish on 6th August and comments in those languages will be taken until the end of August.
So let me get this straight.
A briefing on the RAA is happening _after_ the deadline for comments has passed, unless the comments are in French or Spanish in which case comments are still accepted.
To compound the irony, it is likely that the primary language of the briefing will be English, the home tongue of both Tim and Beau.
- Evan
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At 12/08/2008 09:07 AM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
At-Large Staff wrote:
We would like to invite you to a briefing and discussion session attended by Tim Cole, Chief Registrar Liaison, and the At-Large RAA Working Group and members of the At-Large community on the Draft amendments to the Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA). The public consultation period on the RAA has recently ended in English, but the consultation materials were posted in French and Spanish on 6th August and comments in those languages will be taken until the end of August.
So let me get this straight.
A briefing on the RAA is happening _after_ the deadline for comments has passed, unless the comments are in French or Spanish in which case comments are still accepted.
To compound the irony, it is likely that the primary language of the briefing will be English, the home tongue of both Tim and Beau.
- Evan
Regardless of the words that Staff used, it is unreasonable to expect an ALAC position to be given until all of our members have read the documents and had an opportunity to consult with their constituents. That being said, we need to get better (one way or another) at doing things in a more timely manner. Alan
Alan and all, Here here! Getting allot better at bein ligitimate as well in the membership catagory would be even more useful... Alan Greenberg wrote:
At 12/08/2008 09:07 AM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
At-Large Staff wrote:
We would like to invite you to a briefing and discussion session attended by Tim Cole, Chief Registrar Liaison, and the At-Large RAA Working Group and members of the At-Large community on the Draft amendments to the Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA). The public consultation period on the RAA has recently ended in English, but the consultation materials were posted in French and Spanish on 6th August and comments in those languages will be taken until the end of August.
So let me get this straight.
A briefing on the RAA is happening _after_ the deadline for comments has passed, unless the comments are in French or Spanish in which case comments are still accepted.
To compound the irony, it is likely that the primary language of the briefing will be English, the home tongue of both Tim and Beau.
- Evan
Regardless of the words that Staff used, it is unreasonable to expect an ALAC position to be given until all of our members have read the documents and had an opportunity to consult with their constituents.
That being said, we need to get better (one way or another) at doing things in a more timely manner.
Alan
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participants (5)
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Alan Greenberg -
At-Large Staff -
Evan Leibovitch -
Jeffrey A. Williams -
Nick Ashton-Hart