Here is an interesting article: http://www.circleid.com/posts/20110728_does_icann_need_to_evolve_its_code_of... (this is just an FYI) D ᑕᓕᓐ ᑕᒻᓴᓐ ᓄᓇᓕᖕᓂ ᖃᕆᓴᐅᔭᕐᕕᒋᔭᐅᔪᓐᓇᕐᑐᓄᑦ ᑎᑎᕋᖅᑎ ᑮᓇᐅᔭᓕᕆᓂᕐᒧᑦ ᐊᐅᓚᑦᑎᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᐱᔨᑦᑎᕋᖅᕕᖓᑦ ᐃᓕᓐᓂᐊᕐᓂᓕᕆᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᓄᓇᕗᑦ ᒐᕙᒪᖓᑦ ᑎᑎᖅᑲᓂᐊᕐᕕᖓ 1000, ᐊᓪᓚᕝᕕᖓ 910 ᐃᖃᓗᐃᑦ, ᓄᓇᕗᑦ dthompson@gov.nu.ca ᐅᖄᓚᐅᑎ: 867 975-5631 ᓱᑲᑦᑐᒃᑰᕈᑎ: 867 975-5610 Taliin Taamsan Nunalingni Qaritauyani Atuqtauningitnun Titiraqtia Nunavut Kavamangat Titiraqarvia 1000, Nayugaa 910 Iqaluit, Nunavut dthompson@gov.nu.ca Hivayautik : 867 975-5631 Kayumiktuk : 867 975-5610 Darlene Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Corporate Services Division Department of Education Government of Nunavut PO Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, Nunavut, X0A 0H0 dthompson@gov.nu.ca Ph: 867 975-5631 Fax: 867 975-5610 Darlene Thompson Administratrice du programme d’accès communautaire Division des services ministériels Ministère de l’Éducation Gouvernement du Nunavut Case postale 1000, Succursale 910 Iqaluit Nunavut, X0A 0H0 dthompson@gov.nu.ca Tél. : 867 975-5631 Téléc. : 867 975-5610
What's the point of complaining? This kind of COI is built into the very DNA of ICANN, and couldn't be fixed without the kind of overhaul that would make the ITU salivate. - Evan 2011/7/29 Thompson, Darlene <DThompson1@gov.nu.ca>
Here is an interesting article:
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20110728_does_icann_need_to_evolve_its_code_of...
(this is just an FYI)
D
ᑕᓕᓐ ᑕᒻᓴᓐ ᓄᓇᓕᖕᓂ ᖃᕆᓴᐅᔭᕐᕕᒋᔭᐅᔪᓐᓇᕐᑐᓄᑦ ᑎᑎᕋᖅᑎ ᑮᓇᐅᔭᓕᕆᓂᕐᒧᑦ ᐊᐅᓚᑦᑎᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᐱᔨᑦᑎᕋᖅᕕᖓᑦ ᐃᓕᓐᓂᐊᕐᓂᓕᕆᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᓄᓇᕗᑦ ᒐᕙᒪᖓᑦ ᑎᑎᖅᑲᓂᐊᕐᕕᖓ 1000, ᐊᓪᓚᕝᕕᖓ 910 ᐃᖃᓗᐃᑦ, ᓄᓇᕗᑦ dthompson@gov.nu.ca ᐅᖄᓚᐅᑎ: 867 975-5631 ᓱᑲᑦᑐᒃᑰᕈᑎ: 867 975-5610
Taliin Taamsan Nunalingni Qaritauyani Atuqtauningitnun Titiraqtia Nunavut Kavamangat Titiraqarvia 1000, Nayugaa 910 Iqaluit, Nunavut dthompson@gov.nu.ca Hivayautik : 867 975-5631 Kayumiktuk : 867 975-5610
Darlene Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Corporate Services Division Department of Education Government of Nunavut PO Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, Nunavut, X0A 0H0 dthompson@gov.nu.ca Ph: 867 975-5631 Fax: 867 975-5610
Darlene Thompson Administratrice du programme d’accès communautaire Division des services ministériels Ministère de l’Éducation Gouvernement du Nunavut Case postale 1000, Succursale 910 Iqaluit Nunavut, X0A 0H0 dthompson@gov.nu.ca Tél. : 867 975-5631 Téléc. : 867 975-5610
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This is a conundrum. You volunteer to work in an ICANN board and you do not get any payment for doing it. Moreover, most of the directors come from the Industry. Imagine not been able to work in the Industry for a period of time after leaving the board. Maybe if ICANN directors get any compensation then something like what the article mentions can be implemented. You see, if you offer compensation then you may be able to attract other types of people to the board which means from other industries not related to what ICANN is all about. By the way, do anyone knows if directors in the World Bank get paid? -ed On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:
What's the point of complaining?
This kind of COI is built into the very DNA of ICANN, and couldn't be fixed without the kind of overhaul that would make the ITU salivate.
- Evan
2011/7/29 Thompson, Darlene <DThompson1@gov.nu.ca>
Here is an interesting article:
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20110728_does_icann_need_to_evolve_its_code_of...
(this is just an FYI)
D
ᑕᓕᓐ ᑕᒻᓴᓐ ᓄᓇᓕᖕᓂ ᖃᕆᓴᐅᔭᕐᕕᒋᔭᐅᔪᓐᓇᕐᑐᓄᑦ ᑎᑎᕋᖅᑎ ᑮᓇᐅᔭᓕᕆᓂᕐᒧᑦ ᐊᐅᓚᑦᑎᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᐱᔨᑦᑎᕋᖅᕕᖓᑦ ᐃᓕᓐᓂᐊᕐᓂᓕᕆᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᓄᓇᕗᑦ ᒐᕙᒪᖓᑦ ᑎᑎᖅᑲᓂᐊᕐᕕᖓ 1000, ᐊᓪᓚᕝᕕᖓ 910 ᐃᖃᓗᐃᑦ, ᓄᓇᕗᑦ dthompson@gov.nu.ca ᐅᖄᓚᐅᑎ: 867 975-5631 ᓱᑲᑦᑐᒃᑰᕈᑎ: 867 975-5610
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Here is what I found for 2005, voted in July 2004. «Upon the recommendation of the Board of Governors' Committee on the Remuneration of Executive Directors, the Governors approved the remuneration of Executive Directors and their Alternates effective July 1, 2004, to be as follows: the remuneration of Executive Directors is $196,730; the remuneration of Alternate Executive Directors is $170,170.^3 <http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/EXTABOUTUS/EXTANNREP/EXTANNREP2K5/0...> Louis Houle Président La Société Internet du Québec (ISOC Québec) Louis.Houle@isocquebec.org Le 2011-07-29 10:20, Eduardo Diaz a écrit :
This is a conundrum. You volunteer to work in an ICANN board and you do not get any payment for doing it. Moreover, most of the directors come from the Industry. Imagine not been able to work in the Industry for a period of time after leaving the board. Maybe if ICANN directors get any compensation then something like what the article mentions can be implemented. You see, if you offer compensation then you may be able to attract other types of people to the board which means from other industries not related to what ICANN is all about.
By the way, do anyone knows if directors in the World Bank get paid?
-ed
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Evan Leibovitch<evan@telly.org> wrote:
What's the point of complaining?
This kind of COI is built into the very DNA of ICANN, and couldn't be fixed without the kind of overhaul that would make the ITU salivate.
- Evan
2011/7/29 Thompson, Darlene<DThompson1@gov.nu.ca>
Here is an interesting article:
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20110728_does_icann_need_to_evolve_its_code_of...
(this is just an FYI)
D
ᑕᓕᓐ ᑕᒻᓴᓐ ᓄᓇᓕᖕᓂ ᖃᕆᓴᐅᔭᕐᕕᒋᔭᐅᔪᓐᓇᕐᑐᓄᑦ ᑎᑎᕋᖅᑎ ᑮᓇᐅᔭᓕᕆᓂᕐᒧᑦ ᐊᐅᓚᑦᑎᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᐱᔨᑦᑎᕋᖅᕕᖓᑦ ᐃᓕᓐᓂᐊᕐᓂᓕᕆᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᓄᓇᕗᑦ ᒐᕙᒪᖓᑦ ᑎᑎᖅᑲᓂᐊᕐᕕᖓ 1000, ᐊᓪᓚᕝᕕᖓ 910 ᐃᖃᓗᐃᑦ, ᓄᓇᕗᑦ dthompson@gov.nu.ca ᐅᖄᓚᐅᑎ: 867 975-5631 ᓱᑲᑦᑐᒃᑰᕈᑎ: 867 975-5610
Taliin Taamsan Nunalingni Qaritauyani Atuqtauningitnun Titiraqtia Nunavut Kavamangat Titiraqarvia 1000, Nayugaa 910 Iqaluit, Nunavut dthompson@gov.nu.ca Hivayautik : 867 975-5631 Kayumiktuk : 867 975-5610
Darlene Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Corporate Services Division Department of Education Government of Nunavut PO Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, Nunavut, X0A 0H0 dthompson@gov.nu.ca Ph: 867 975-5631 Fax: 867 975-5610
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So the Worldbank directors get paid which makes a big difference. -ed On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Houle Louis <Louis.Houle@oricom.ca> wrote:
Here is what I found for 2005, voted in July 2004.
«Upon the recommendation of the Board of Governors' Committee on the Remuneration of Executive Directors, the Governors approved the remuneration of Executive Directors and their Alternates effective July 1, 2004, to be as follows: the remuneration of Executive Directors is $196,730; the remuneration of Alternate Executive Directors is $170,170.^3 < http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/EXTABOUTUS/EXTANNREP/EXTANNREP2K5/0...
Louis Houle Président La Société Internet du Québec (ISOC Québec) Louis.Houle@isocquebec.org
Le 2011-07-29 10:20, Eduardo Diaz a écrit :
This is a conundrum. You volunteer to work in an ICANN board and you do not get any payment for doing it. Moreover, most of the directors come from the Industry. Imagine not been able to work in the Industry for a period of time after leaving the board. Maybe if ICANN directors get any compensation then something like what the article mentions can be implemented. You see, if you offer compensation then you may be able to attract other types of people to the board which means from other industries not related to what ICANN is all about.
By the way, do anyone knows if directors in the World Bank get paid?
-ed
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Evan Leibovitch<evan@telly.org> wrote:
What's the point of complaining?
This kind of COI is built into the very DNA of ICANN, and couldn't be fixed without the kind of overhaul that would make the ITU salivate.
- Evan
2011/7/29 Thompson, Darlene<DThompson1@gov.nu.ca>
Here is an interesting article:
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20110728_does_icann_need_to_evolve_its_code_of...
(this is just an FYI)
D
ᑕᓕᓐ ᑕᒻᓴᓐ ᓄᓇᓕᖕᓂ ᖃᕆᓴᐅᔭᕐᕕᒋᔭᐅᔪᓐᓇᕐᑐᓄᑦ ᑎᑎᕋᖅᑎ ᑮᓇᐅᔭᓕᕆᓂᕐᒧᑦ ᐊᐅᓚᑦᑎᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᐱᔨᑦᑎᕋᖅᕕᖓᑦ ᐃᓕᓐᓂᐊᕐᓂᓕᕆᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᓄᓇᕗᑦ ᒐᕙᒪᖓᑦ ᑎᑎᖅᑲᓂᐊᕐᕕᖓ 1000, ᐊᓪᓚᕝᕕᖓ 910 ᐃᖃᓗᐃᑦ, ᓄᓇᕗᑦ dthompson@gov.nu.ca ᐅᖄᓚᐅᑎ: 867 975-5631 ᓱᑲᑦᑐᒃᑰᕈᑎ: 867 975-5610
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I think most BOD's are compensated, even at non profits -------------------------------------------------- From: "Eduardo Diaz" <eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 10:11 AM To: "Houle Louis" <Louis.Houle@oricom.ca> Cc: <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Does ICANN need to evolve its code of conduct?
So the Worldbank directors get paid which makes a big difference.
-ed
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Houle Louis <Louis.Houle@oricom.ca> wrote:
Here is what I found for 2005, voted in July 2004.
«Upon the recommendation of the Board of Governors' Committee on the Remuneration of Executive Directors, the Governors approved the remuneration of Executive Directors and their Alternates effective July 1, 2004, to be as follows: the remuneration of Executive Directors is $196,730; the remuneration of Alternate Executive Directors is $170,170.^3 < http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/EXTABOUTUS/EXTANNREP/EXTANNREP2K5/0...
Louis Houle Président La Société Internet du Québec (ISOC Québec) Louis.Houle@isocquebec.org
Le 2011-07-29 10:20, Eduardo Diaz a écrit :
This is a conundrum. You volunteer to work in an ICANN board and you do not get any payment for doing it. Moreover, most of the directors come from the Industry. Imagine not been able to work in the Industry for a period of time after leaving the board. Maybe if ICANN directors get any compensation then something like what the article mentions can be implemented. You see, if you offer compensation then you may be able to attract other types of people to the board which means from other industries not related to what ICANN is all about.
By the way, do anyone knows if directors in the World Bank get paid?
-ed
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Evan Leibovitch<evan@telly.org> wrote:
What's the point of complaining?
This kind of COI is built into the very DNA of ICANN, and couldn't be fixed without the kind of overhaul that would make the ITU salivate.
- Evan
2011/7/29 Thompson, Darlene<DThompson1@gov.nu.ca>
Here is an interesting article:
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20110728_does_icann_need_to_evolve_its_code_of...
(this is just an FYI)
D
ᑕᓕᓐ ᑕᒻᓴᓐ ᓄᓇᓕᖕᓂ ᖃᕆᓴᐅᔭᕐᕕᒋᔭᐅᔪᓐᓇᕐᑐᓄᑦ ᑎᑎᕋᖅᑎ ᑮᓇᐅᔭᓕᕆᓂᕐᒧᑦ ᐊᐅᓚᑦᑎᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᐱᔨᑦᑎᕋᖅᕕᖓᑦ ᐃᓕᓐᓂᐊᕐᓂᓕᕆᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᓄᓇᕗᑦ ᒐᕙᒪᖓᑦ ᑎᑎᖅᑲᓂᐊᕐᕕᖓ 1000, ᐊᓪᓚᕝᕕᖓ 910 ᐃᖃᓗᐃᑦ, ᓄᓇᕗᑦ dthompson@gov.nu.ca ᐅᖄᓚᐅᑎ: 867 975-5631 ᓱᑲᑦᑐᒃᑰᕈᑎ: 867 975-5610
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I think most BOD's are compensated, even at non profits
Yes, it's true. If ICANN paid its directors, it would broaden the candidate pool to include people who aren't subsidized by their employers. I might be interested, but I can't possibly afford to spend 2/3 or more of my time on non-paying work. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
+ 1 Louis Houle Président La Société Internet du Québec (ISOC Québec) Louis.Houle@isocquebec.org Le 2011-08-02 10:42, John R. Levine a écrit :
I think most BOD's are compensated, even at non profits Yes, it's true. If ICANN paid its directors, it would broaden the candidate pool to include people who aren't subsidized by their employers.
I might be interested, but I can't possibly afford to spend 2/3 or more of my time on non-paying work.
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On 2 Aug 2011, at 15:22, Garth Bruen at Knujon.com wrote:
I think most BOD's are compensated, even at non profits
It's kind of expected that if you serve on a board of directors that you get some form of compensation, even if it's very low
-------------------------------------------------- From: "Eduardo Diaz" <eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 10:11 AM To: "Houle Louis" <Louis.Houle@oricom.ca> Cc: <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Does ICANN need to evolve its code of conduct?
So the Worldbank directors get paid which makes a big difference.
-ed
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Houle Louis <Louis.Houle@oricom.ca> wrote:
Here is what I found for 2005, voted in July 2004.
«Upon the recommendation of the Board of Governors' Committee on the Remuneration of Executive Directors, the Governors approved the remuneration of Executive Directors and their Alternates effective July 1, 2004, to be as follows: the remuneration of Executive Directors is $196,730; the remuneration of Alternate Executive Directors is $170,170.^3 < http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/EXTABOUTUS/EXTANNREP/EXTANNREP2K5/0...
Louis Houle Président La Société Internet du Québec (ISOC Québec) Louis.Houle@isocquebec.org
Le 2011-07-29 10:20, Eduardo Diaz a écrit :
This is a conundrum. You volunteer to work in an ICANN board and you do not get any payment for doing it. Moreover, most of the directors come from the Industry. Imagine not been able to work in the Industry for a period of time after leaving the board. Maybe if ICANN directors get any compensation then something like what the article mentions can be implemented. You see, if you offer compensation then you may be able to attract other types of people to the board which means from other industries not related to what ICANN is all about.
By the way, do anyone knows if directors in the World Bank get paid?
-ed
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Evan Leibovitch<evan@telly.org> wrote:
What's the point of complaining?
This kind of COI is built into the very DNA of ICANN, and couldn't be fixed without the kind of overhaul that would make the ITU salivate.
- Evan
2011/7/29 Thompson, Darlene<DThompson1@gov.nu.ca>
Here is an interesting article:
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20110728_does_icann_need_to_evolve_its_code_of...
(this is just an FYI)
D
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I'm on the board of directors for a NYS not-for-profit health care institution and, while we receive a per meeting fee, I'm told the strict standard is that none is allowed. However, state auditors allow it in recognition of the challenge in getting effective public oversight participation. (Note that this fee would not pay for an overnight stay in a ICANN class hotel. And I'm certain rules vary by state. ) Tom On 8/2/2011 10:48 AM, Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote:
On 2 Aug 2011, at 15:22, Garth Bruen at Knujon.com wrote:
I think most BOD's are compensated, even at non profits It's kind of expected that if you serve on a board of directors that you get some form of compensation, even if it's very low
-------------------------------------------------- From: "Eduardo Diaz"<eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 10:11 AM To: "Houle Louis"<Louis.Houle@oricom.ca> Cc:<na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Does ICANN need to evolve its code of conduct?
So the Worldbank directors get paid which makes a big difference.
-ed
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Houle Louis<Louis.Houle@oricom.ca> wrote:
Here is what I found for 2005, voted in July 2004.
«Upon the recommendation of the Board of Governors' Committee on the Remuneration of Executive Directors, the Governors approved the remuneration of Executive Directors and their Alternates effective July 1, 2004, to be as follows: the remuneration of Executive Directors is $196,730; the remuneration of Alternate Executive Directors is $170,170.^3 < http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/EXTABOUTUS/EXTANNREP/EXTANNREP2K5/0...
Louis Houle Président La Société Internet du Québec (ISOC Québec) Louis.Houle@isocquebec.org
Le 2011-07-29 10:20, Eduardo Diaz a écrit :
This is a conundrum. You volunteer to work in an ICANN board and you do not get any payment for doing it. Moreover, most of the directors come from the Industry. Imagine not been able to work in the Industry for a period of time after leaving the board. Maybe if ICANN directors get any compensation then something like what the article mentions can be implemented. You see, if you offer compensation then you may be able to attract other types of people to the board which means from other industries not related to what ICANN is all about.
By the way, do anyone knows if directors in the World Bank get paid?
-ed
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Evan Leibovitch<evan@telly.org> wrote:
What's the point of complaining?
This kind of COI is built into the very DNA of ICANN, and couldn't be fixed without the kind of overhaul that would make the ITU salivate.
- Evan
2011/7/29 Thompson, Darlene<DThompson1@gov.nu.ca>
> Here is an interesting article: > > > http://www.circleid.com/posts/20110728_does_icann_need_to_evolve_its_code_of... > (this is just an FYI) > > D > > > ᑕᓕᓐ ᑕᒻᓴᓐ > ᓄᓇᓕᖕᓂ ᖃᕆᓴᐅᔭᕐᕕᒋᔭᐅᔪᓐᓇᕐᑐᓄᑦ ᑎᑎᕋᖅᑎ > ᑮᓇᐅᔭᓕᕆᓂᕐᒧᑦ ᐊᐅᓚᑦᑎᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᐱᔨᑦᑎᕋᖅᕕᖓᑦ > ᐃᓕᓐᓂᐊᕐᓂᓕᕆᔨᒃᑯᑦ > ᓄᓇᕗᑦ ᒐᕙᒪᖓᑦ > ᑎᑎᖅᑲᓂᐊᕐᕕᖓ 1000, ᐊᓪᓚᕝᕕᖓ 910 > ᐃᖃᓗᐃᑦ, ᓄᓇᕗᑦ > dthompson@gov.nu.ca > ᐅᖄᓚᐅᑎ: 867 975-5631 > ᓱᑲᑦᑐᒃᑰᕈᑎ: 867 975-5610 > > > Taliin Taamsan > Nunalingni > Qaritauyani Atuqtauningitnun Titiraqtia Nunavut Kavamangat > Titiraqarvia 1000, > Nayugaa 910 > Iqaluit, Nunavut > dthompson@gov.nu.ca > Hivayautik : 867 975-5631 > Kayumiktuk : 867 975-5610 > > Darlene Thompson > Community Access Program Administrator > Corporate Services Division > Department of Education > Government of Nunavut > PO Box 1000, Station 910 > Iqaluit, Nunavut, X0A 0H0 > dthompson@gov.nu.ca > Ph: 867 975-5631 > Fax: 867 975-5610 > > Darlene Thompson > Administratrice du programme d’accès communautaire > Division des services ministériels > Ministère de l’Éducation > Gouvernement du Nunavut > Case postale 1000, Succursale 910 > Iqaluit Nunavut, X0A 0H0 > dthompson@gov.nu.ca > Tél. : 867 975-5631 > Téléc. : 867 975-5610 > > > ------ > NA-Discuss mailing list > NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > ------ ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
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I'm on the board of directors for a NYS not-for-profit health care institution and, while we receive a per meeting fee, I'm told the strict standard is that none is allowed. However, state auditors allow it in recognition of the challenge in getting effective public oversight participation. (Note that this fee would not pay for an overnight stay in a ICANN class hotel. And I'm certain rules vary by state. )
I looked up the rules for California non-profits the last time this came up. Paying directors is specifically legal, subject to overall rules on reasonability. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly PS: For how well the NY rules are enforced, see the front page of today's NY Times, about two brothers who paid themselves $1M/yr each running a non-profit for the developmentally disabled.
Unless the have sub-sub directors who don't get paid. I doubt it! Louis Houle Président La Société Internet du Québec (ISOC Québec) Louis.Houle@isocquebec.org Le 2011-08-02 10:11, Eduardo Diaz a écrit :
So the Worldbank directors get paid which makes a big difference.
-ed
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Houle Louis <Louis.Houle@oricom.ca <mailto:Louis.Houle@oricom.ca>> wrote:
Here is what I found for 2005, voted in July 2004.
«Upon the recommendation of the Board of Governors' Committee on the Remuneration of Executive Directors, the Governors approved the remuneration of Executive Directors and their Alternates effective July 1, 2004, to be as follows: the remuneration of Executive Directors is $196,730; the remuneration of Alternate Executive Directors is $170,170.^3 <http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/EXTABOUTUS/EXTANNREP/EXTANNREP2K5/0...>
Louis Houle Président La Société Internet du Québec (ISOC Québec) Louis.Houle@isocquebec.org <mailto:Louis.Houle@isocquebec.org>
Le 2011-07-29 10:20, Eduardo Diaz a écrit : > This is a conundrum. You volunteer to work in an ICANN board and you do not > get any payment for doing it. Moreover, most of the directors come from the > Industry. Imagine not been able to work in the Industry for a period of time > after leaving the board. Maybe if ICANN directors get any compensation then > something like what the article mentions can be implemented. You see, if you > offer compensation then you may be able to attract other types of people to > the board which means from other industries not related to what ICANN is all > about. > > By the way, do anyone knows if directors in the World Bank get paid? > > -ed > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Evan Leibovitch<evan@telly.org <mailto:evan@telly.org>> wrote: > >> What's the point of complaining? >> >> This kind of COI is built into the very DNA of ICANN, and couldn't be fixed >> without the kind of overhaul that would make the ITU salivate. >> >> - Evan >> >> >> >> >> >> 2011/7/29 Thompson, Darlene<DThompson1@gov.nu.ca <mailto:DThompson1@gov.nu.ca>> >> >>> Here is an interesting article: >>> >>> >>> >> http://www.circleid.com/posts/20110728_does_icann_need_to_evolve_its_code_of... >>> (this is just an FYI) >>> >>> D >>> >>> >>> ᑕᓕᓐ ᑕᒻᓴᓐ >>> ᓄᓇᓕᖕᓂ ᖃᕆᓴᐅᔭᕐᕕᒋᔭᐅᔪᓐᓇᕐᑐᓄᑦ ᑎᑎᕋᖅᑎ >>> ᑮᓇᐅᔭᓕᕆᓂᕐᒧᑦ ᐊᐅᓚᑦᑎᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᐱᔨᑦᑎᕋᖅᕕᖓᑦ >>> ᐃᓕᓐᓂᐊᕐᓂᓕᕆᔨᒃᑯᑦ >>> ᓄᓇᕗᑦ ᒐᕙᒪᖓᑦ >>> ᑎᑎᖅᑲᓂᐊᕐᕕᖓ 1000, ᐊᓪᓚᕝᕕᖓ 910 >>> ᐃᖃᓗᐃᑦ, ᓄᓇᕗᑦ >>> dthompson@gov.nu.ca <mailto:dthompson@gov.nu.ca> >>> ᐅᖄᓚᐅᑎ: 867 975-5631 <tel:867%20975-5631> >>> ᓱᑲᑦᑐᒃᑰᕈᑎ: 867 975-5610 <tel:867%20975-5610> >>> >>> >>> Taliin Taamsan >>> Nunalingni >>> Qaritauyani Atuqtauningitnun Titiraqtia Nunavut Kavamangat >>> Titiraqarvia 1000, >>> Nayugaa 910 >>> Iqaluit, Nunavut >>> dthompson@gov.nu.ca <mailto:dthompson@gov.nu.ca> >>> Hivayautik : 867 975-5631 <tel:867%20975-5631> >>> Kayumiktuk : 867 975-5610 <tel:867%20975-5610> >>> >>> Darlene Thompson >>> Community Access Program Administrator >>> Corporate Services Division >>> Department of Education >>> Government of Nunavut >>> PO Box 1000, Station 910 >>> Iqaluit, Nunavut, X0A 0H0 >>> dthompson@gov.nu.ca <mailto:dthompson@gov.nu.ca> >>> Ph: 867 975-5631 <tel:867%20975-5631> >>> Fax: 867 975-5610 <tel:867%20975-5610> >>> >>> Darlene Thompson >>> Administratrice du programme d’accès communautaire >>> Division des services ministériels >>> Ministère de l’Éducation >>> Gouvernement du Nunavut >>> Case postale 1000, Succursale 910 >>> Iqaluit Nunavut, X0A 0H0 >>> dthompson@gov.nu.ca <mailto:dthompson@gov.nu.ca> >>> Tél. : 867 975-5631 <tel:867%20975-5631> >>> Téléc. : 867 975-5610 <tel:867%20975-5610> >>> >>> >>> ------ >>> NA-Discuss mailing list >>> NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >>> >>> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >>> ------ >> ------ >> NA-Discuss mailing list >> NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >> >> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >> ------ >> > > ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
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Houle Louis -
John R. Levine -
Michele Neylon :: Blacknight -
Thomas Lowenhaupt -
Thompson, Darlene