Hello Raoul, All Yes, Raoul is correct, there was no tradition, it was a short term strategy for NPCO to participate on the NCSG EC until the Charter was written and passed. To build on other engagement issues, since my last meeting, I told Caleb, via Skype, that I would be very happy to work on the member engagement, to no avail. I took it as a 'no thank you' Regards, On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 10:14 AM Raoul Plommer via Npoc-discuss < npoc-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
Hello all,
I feel that I need to comment on this:
The term limit is determined by the EC. Usually, the tradition is to have
one current NPOC EC who volunteers or whose office designation matches the administrative issues discussed (such as membership engagement, recruitment and outreach on the NCSG EC. This used to be the membership chair and likely now the Outreach and Engagement Coordinator as per the new charter.
The reason why traditionally one NPOC EC member is on the NCSG EC is there is to be able to report back to NPOC EC and serve as a liaison. I'm aware the NCUC also has that in place now as the flow of information in time past has not so much be a two-way channel.
The "tradition" you speak of is actually just an arbitrary rule stipulated by Joan out of thin air and currently, now that there are only four EC members, there is no reason why the NPOC representatives at the NCSG EC should be also part of the NPOC EC. The only liaising that needs to happen, is basically keeping track of our new members flowing in and reporting the numbers and possibly other specifics of those new members to the EC. This is hardly rocket surgery.
Remember, the NPOC EC doesn't actually make any decisions about accepting these members, it's the task of the NCSG EC and the two NPOC reps basically make sure that the members are indeed fit for NPOC, when the NCSG EC decides on them.
At the moment, we still don't have a comprehensive list of our members and their status as ARs or ORs. I've been demanding to see it for like three years from you Caleb and you still haven't produced it, regardless that THAT is the most significant task you have ever had as the membership chair or the new variant of it. I think you have to stop hiding behind our shitty CRM and start making that list of members in some other way. Maybe start checking the lists of people that you have recruited yourself?
I would like to ask from our chair, Juan, to extend the current application period for the NCSG EC to Sunday and open the other NCSG EC position up for applications as well. Caleb needs to get on top of that comprehensive membership list, produce it and let other people take care of the acceptance of new members.
-Raoul
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 at 21:56, Johan Helsingius via Npoc-discuss < npoc-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Caleb, and thank you for the quick and informative reply!
The term limit is determined by the EC.
By the NPOC EC?
Usually, the tradition is to have one current NPOC EC who volunteers or whose office designation matches the administrative issues discussed (such as membership engagement, recruitment and outreach on the NCSG EC. This used to be the membership chair and likely now the Outreach and Engagement Coordinator as per the new charter.
Ah, yes.
The reason why traditionally one NPOC EC member is on the NCSG EC is there is to be able to report back to NPOC EC and serve as a liaison. I'm aware the NCUC also has that in place now as the flow of information in time past has not so much be a two-way channel.
Indeed. It definitely makes sense.
Julf
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