Re: [RDS-WHOIS2-RT] ICANN Proposal to adjust scope of RDS-WHOIS2-RT
I largely tend to agree, although I do believe that we are seeing a case of "Don't presume conspiracy when incompetence explain it". But I do think we will have to spend some time crafting a reply to post to the comment once we get some hard financial data. That is a distraction we didn't need. Alan At 16/05/2018 02:08 PM, Susan Kawaguchi wrote:
I agree with Chris, except on the secret motive, and think we should continue on with our work until the community provides their comments and ICANN provides an in depth report on those comments. By that time we will have most of our work completed. I am working diligently to provide the draft reports I am responsible for by the May 24th deadline.
It should be business as usual.
Hopefully, ICANN org will continue to learn about how to treat RT's. "Sigh"...
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Chris Disspain <<mailto:chris@disspain.uk>chris@disspain.uk> wrote: Hi All,
1. ICANN does not âwant to pauseâ. ICANN is asking the community what they want to do. There is no secret motive nor any attempt to manipulate the situation.
2. I accept that a heads up would have been appropriate.
3. Please let us try to concentrate on the actual issue rather than the minor irritants. In the same way as the RT has asked itself on a number of occasions whether it can usefully re-time its work, in the context of the community looking at all reviews and figuring out how best to manage them both from a resource and budget point of view, it would be odd not to ask the same question.
4. My personal view is that we should continue.
5. I recommend that the RT respond to the call for comment ASAP with a note acknowledging that we serve at the behest of the community, summarising where we are at with the work and our timing going forward and saying that the RT believes it should continue (assuming we do think that).
Cheers,
Chris
On 16 May 2018, at 07:23, Volker Greimann <<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net>vgreimann@key-systems.net> wrote:
Hi Alan,
I absolutely agree that it is strange that ICANN seems to want to pause this without consulting us first. But as this is the cards we have been dealt, we need to figure out how to play them and in this case I vote for following the community consensus, if any.
As for Monday, it is a public holiday that I will be travelling on.
Best,
Volker
Am 16.05.2018 um 16:08 schrieb Alan Greenberg:
Volker,
Of course we serve at the pleasure of the community.
The question is process and timing. That this was done with no consultation with us, I find strange. But the really difficult part is that we are being told to keep on working (and I have confirmed that this is the intent) with a target of having a draft report complete just after the July F2F, and at THAT point, we may be told to scrap part of what we have been working on between now an then, or put the entire project on hold for some indeterminate time, and when it resumes it may be with a different team and much of the work will have to be redone.
We will discuss this further at the Monday meeting, and for those who will not be there, your input is appreciated ahead of time.
Susan has suggested that we go back to our appointing groups for their input.
Alan
At 16/05/2018 06:03 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:
We serve at the pleasure of
the community, so I would not object to any
consensus position either way. While a) is the most logical choice,
preserving most of our work efforts so far, the others also have some
merit due to the changes ahead. And as ICANN has just thrown another
curve-ball in the form of the proposed temporary specification, more
change seems to be on the horizon, which could further outdate our work
product.
Best,
Volker
Am 16.05.2018 um 04:30 schrieb Alan Greenberg:
I call your attention to a Public Comment (PC) launched yesterday
asking for input on alternatives to alter the RDS-WHOIS2-RT Scope
and
plans (as well possible changes to the not yet started ATRT3) -
https://www.icann.org/public-comments/specific-reviews-short-term-timeline-2....
I proposes three possible scenarios for our RT:
a) Proceeds as planned;
b) reduce scope to just an analysis of the WHOIS1-RT
Recommendations;
c) pause the review entirely for some as yet to be determined time.
If recommended by the community, b) and c) would require our
agreement. The implications of a community recommendation that we
refused to agree with are not known. If there is a pause, it is not
clear when the unpause would happen and to what extent it would be
the
same team moving forward.
The PC ends on 06 July 2018 and the report on input received is due
on
23 July 2018, a few days before we are currently planning to meet in
Brussels to close-to-finalize our report.
Although the PC was issues yesterday, neither I nor Susan and
Cathrin
had any prior knowledge of it and in fact we only heard of it
today.
We have initiated discussions with MSSI on exactly what this means
and
will get back when I have a better understanding.
Alan
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