ICANN Appeals Bonn Court Ruling for EPAG WHOIS Data Collection-vs-GDPR Matter
..allegedly because the 'definitive' question was not answered by earlier ruling. A worthy end game I should think. But still looks like slim pickings from here, especially in current political climate. https://domainnamewire.com/2018/06/14/icann-appeals-german-court-ruling-as-i... -Carlton ============================== *Carlton A Samuels* *Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
I am not sure how much this future ruling will clarify beyond what has already been pointed out, namely that the temp specs are incomplete on the rationale and assessment of necessity and proportionality. Even if that were included in the submission (which I have not yet read), the submission alone cannot fix the underlying flaw of the missing policy elements. Cathrin
Am 14.06.2018 um 15:11 schrieb Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com>:
..allegedly because the 'definitive' question was not answered by earlier ruling.
A worthy end game I should think. But still looks like slim pickings from here, especially in current political climate.
https://domainnamewire.com/2018/06/14/icann-appeals-german-court-ruling-as-i...
-Carlton
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Well, I read the new legal document, and it seems this time they at least put some effort into it. Totally new arguments. Am 14.06.2018 um 17:49 schrieb Cathrin Bauer via RDS-WHOIS2-RT:
I am not sure how much this future ruling will clarify beyond what has already been pointed out, namely that the temp specs are incomplete on the rationale and assessment of necessity and proportionality. Even if that were included in the submission (which I have not yet read), the submission alone cannot fix the underlying flaw of the missing policy elements.
Cathrin
Am 14.06.2018 um 15:11 schrieb Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com <mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com>>:
..allegedly because the 'definitive' question was not answered by earlier ruling.
A worthy end game I should think. But still looks like slim pickings from here, especially in current political climate.
https://domainnamewire.com/2018/06/14/icann-appeals-german-court-ruling-as-i...
-Carlton
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Volker - can you forward the link to the appeal doc please. Thanks, Erika Erika Mann erika@errikamann.com +32 498 121354 On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net
wrote:
Well, I read the new legal document, and it seems this time they at least put some effort into it. Totally new arguments.
Am 14.06.2018 um 17:49 schrieb Cathrin Bauer via RDS-WHOIS2-RT:
I am not sure how much this future ruling will clarify beyond what has already been pointed out, namely that the temp specs are incomplete on the rationale and assessment of necessity and proportionality. Even if that were included in the submission (which I have not yet read), the submission alone cannot fix the underlying flaw of the missing policy elements.
Cathrin
Am 14.06.2018 um 15:11 schrieb Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com
:
..allegedly because the 'definitive' question was not answered by earlier ruling.
A worthy end game I should think. But still looks like slim pickings from here, especially in current political climate.
https://domainnamewire.com/2018/06/14/icann-appeals- german-court-ruling-as-it-seeks-definitive-ruling-on-gdpr-and-whois-data- collection/
-Carlton
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Found it: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/litigation-icann-v-epag-2018-05-25-en Best, Erika On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 2:50 PM, Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com> wrote:
Volker - can you forward the link to the appeal doc please. Thanks, Erika
Erika Mann erika@errikamann.com +32 498 121354
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Volker Greimann < vgreimann@key-systems.net> wrote:
Well, I read the new legal document, and it seems this time they at least put some effort into it. Totally new arguments.
Am 14.06.2018 um 17:49 schrieb Cathrin Bauer via RDS-WHOIS2-RT:
I am not sure how much this future ruling will clarify beyond what has already been pointed out, namely that the temp specs are incomplete on the rationale and assessment of necessity and proportionality. Even if that were included in the submission (which I have not yet read), the submission alone cannot fix the underlying flaw of the missing policy elements.
Cathrin
Am 14.06.2018 um 15:11 schrieb Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com
:
..allegedly because the 'definitive' question was not answered by earlier ruling.
A worthy end game I should think. But still looks like slim pickings from here, especially in current political climate.
https://domainnamewire.com/2018/06/14/icann-appeals-german- court-ruling-as-it-seeks-definitive-ruling-on-gdpr-and- whois-data-collection/
-Carlton
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