Hi John, So, in summary.... an identity theft occurs at NSI (hijacker pretends to be Don Teske likely by sending in a fax with faked ID) and the buyer at Sedo claims he's an innocent purchaser.... I was going to say that it's the age-old "I'm an innocent purchaser" argument, but $3500? I would submit that paying $3500 for raven.com is not a reasonable amount of money. Far too low. So low that the buyer knew, or should have known, that the domain was hijacked. (Or perhaps at Sedo the buyer is the seller, or not arms-length). GoDaddy reverting to Directnic reverting back to NSI is very reasonable under the circumstances. Thx Richard -----Original Message----- From: owner-registrars@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-registrars@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of John Berryhill Sent: 03 August, 2007 3:38 PM To: 'Registrars Constituency' Subject: [registrars] Grave Robbing and SEDO Fencing I see a lot of outrageous things in the course of a few days, so it is hard to peg my moral outrage meter, but this one is a cut above.... Raven.com was originally registered through NSI in 1992 to: RAVEN Computer Systems PO Box 44309 Minneapolis, MN 55344 USA Administrative, Technical Contact: Teske, Don dwt@RAVEN.COM As was noted on the web page for 15 years (http://web.archive.org/web/20040602192346/www.raven.com/faq.html) Is the RAVEN domain for sale? No, this domain is not for sale. According to the Social Security Death Index, the principal of the company, Mr. Teske, died on October 3, 2005. His widow continued to use her raven.com email address. In June 2007, an interesting change happened to the WHOIS at NSI: Administrative Contact Gostowski, Kushaiah don_teske@yahoo.com Several days later, the domain was transferred to Directnic as: Registrant: Raven 123 Main St Fresno, CA 94205 US 4152273833 Administrative Contact: Gostowski, Kushaiah don_teske@yahoo.com And was offered for sale via Sedo after a quick change to: Registrant: Raven One Wilshire Blvd Los angeles, CA 90010 US 3109009783 Administrative Contact: Colton, Mark ravenheadinc@gmail.com The name sold at Sedo for $3,500 on July 3, 2007, was shipped out to GoDaddy, and is now registered as: Registrant: Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States Administrative Contact: Private, Registration RAVEN.COM@domainsbyproxy.com At the moment, it is up for auction at Ebay, Item 330151932746 This is the first time this domain is for sale since registration in 1992 raven.com You will never get a chance like this again. My local pawn shop does more in the way of verifying the identity of sellers than Sedo does. Mrs. Teske, by the way, would like to have the domain name back. John Berryhill, Ph.d., Esq. 4 West Front St. Media, PA 19063 (610) 565-5601 (267) 386-8115 fax