Thanks Ignatius, For the travel support at IETF, Ozan sent an email to the Caucus list to start the application process. Once we have received the lists of requests, we send an email to the Caucus announcing who requested. I think this is transparent enough and we do not need live sessions. In general, RSSAC caucus meetings are dedicated to substantive content deliberations, and not focusing on administration matters. For the selection itself, we send out an email ahead of time announcing the random factors that we will be using and the final list of candidates. Given that RFC3797 method is publicly verifiable, anyone can use the factors in the email we send to do the random selection, and all random selection with the random numbers we chose should have the same result. Thus, there is no need to run a live session to do the selection. Given that we announce the random factors before we know them (e.g., a winning lottery on a future date, stock market closing index on a future date), there is little possibility for gaming. I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any further questions. Best Steve From: Ignatius Nkrumah <ignatius.nkrumah@yahoo.com> Date: Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 10:17 AM To: Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com>, Steve Sheng <steve.sheng@icann.org> Cc: RSSAC Caucus <rssac-caucus@icann.org> Subject: Re: [RSSAC Caucus] [Ext] Re: RSSAC Caucus Travel Support for IETF 116 Yokohama, Japan Hi Steve and the team, I did not submit my name for travel support but I have a suggestion. Future Travel Support nominations should be either held live or the session be recorded, with the possibility of explaining the process during the session. I trust this would helps clear the doubts on the table for up-coming nominations. Regards Ignatius RSSAC Caucus On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 05:06:18 PM GMT+2, Steve Sheng <steve.sheng@icann.org> wrote: Hi Harish, Thanks for your email. I see two questions and let me respond to them separately. Regarding your concern that the random selection always select the alpha A first, I have double-checked the result using two implementations of RFC 3797 and both yields the same responses. I have also checked and confirmed that the randomness we use follows the guidelines laid out in section 3 of RFC3797. Based on these, I concluded that we have followed RFC 3797. I have also checked with other communities that use RFC3797 and did not find evidence that it always selects the alpha A first. Based on these, and unless proven otherwise, I conclude the selection is valid. Regarding your question “I hope travel support should be even and given to member who never received it and based upon some rationale rather than a lottery,” this selection has been done as outlined in the IETF Supported Travelers Funding Guidelines attached. The guidelines do not preclude an RSSAC Caucus member from being considered for travel support even if they received travel support in the past. I hope this helps. Let me know if you have more questions. Best Steve From: Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 12:33 PM To: Steve Sheng <steve.sheng@icann.org> Cc: Ozan Sahin <ozan.sahin@icann.org>, RSSAC Caucus <rssac-caucus@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [RSSAC Caucus] RSSAC Caucus Travel Support for IETF 116 Yokohama, Japan Dear All, Please see results of IETF 104. Results Key String: 15.21.29.35.54.60./6.7.10.11.19.27.37./6739./ 4. Daniel Migault 6. Anand Raje 11. Amir Qayyum 10. Alejandro Acosta 1. Robert Story 5. Ihtisham Khalid 9. Dr AbdulkarIm Oloyede 2. Ramanou BIAOU 12. MOHIT BATRA 3. George Russell Mundy 14. Anupam Agrawal 8. Shailesh Gupta 13. Rao Naveed Bin Rais 7. Harish Chowdhary The funded travelers are: Daniel Migault, Anand Raje, Amir Qayyum and Alejandro Acosta Any suggestions please. I hope travel support should be even and given to memeber who never recieved it and based upon some rationale rather than a lottery. Thanks, Harish Chowdhary On Wed, 4 Jan, 2023, 9:32 pm Steve Sheng, <steve.sheng@icann.org<mailto:steve.sheng@icann.org>> wrote: Dear RSSAC Caucus, Please see the result of the random selection. Source of Randomness: #1 Euro Millions Tuesday 3 January 2023: 3 10 20 21 29 45 46 (https://www.euro-jackpot.net/en/euromillions [euro-jackpot.net]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.euro-jackpot.net/en/euromillions__;!!...>) #2 US Lucky for Life Tuesday 3 January 2023: 1 14 24 34 45 47 (https://www.luckyforlife.us/winning-numbers/ [luckyforlife.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.luckyforlife.us/winning-numbers/__;!!...>) #3 NASDAQ closing index (rounded to the nearest integer) on Tuesday 3 January 2023: 10387 (https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/index/comp [nasdaq.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/index/comp...>) Result: 5. Anand Raje 1. Rao Naveed Bin Rais 3. Hafiz Farooq 2. Harish Chowdhary 4. Mallory Knodel Thus, Anand Raje and Rao Naveed Bin Rais will receive funding of IETF 116. Best Steve From: Steve Sheng <steve.sheng@icann.org<mailto:steve.sheng@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 9:49 AM To: Ozan Sahin <ozan.sahin@icann.org<mailto:ozan.sahin@icann.org>>, "rssac-caucus@icann.org<mailto:rssac-caucus@icann.org>" <rssac-caucus@icann.org<mailto:rssac-caucus@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [RSSAC Caucus] RSSAC Caucus Travel Support for IETF 116 Yokohama, Japan Dear RSSAC Caucus, Sorry for the delay in handling this random selection. Here is a list of RSSAC Caucus members to be entered into the random selection: 1. Rao Naveed Bin Rais 2. Harish Chowdhary 3. Hafiz Farooq 4. Mallory Knodel 5. Anand Raje Number of Slots: 2 Source of Randomness: #1 Euro Millions Tuesday 3 January 2023 (https://www.euro-jackpot.net/en/euromillions [euro-jackpot.net]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.euro-jackpot.net/en/euromillions__;!!...>) #2 US Lucky for Life Tuesday 3 January 2023 (https://www.luckyforlife.us/winning-numbers/ [luckyforlife.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.luckyforlife.us/winning-numbers/__;!!...>) #3 NASDAQ closing index (rounded to the nearest integer) on Tuesday 3 January 2023 (https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/index/comp [nasdaq.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/index/comp...>) A Publicly Verifiable Random Selection Process will be conducted by Staff on Wed 4 January 2023, using the RFC 3797 method. The results (as well as other data) will be announced to the list on the same day, after which you can verify the result yourself. Best regards, Steve Sheng From: rssac-caucus <rssac-caucus-bounces@icann.org<mailto:rssac-caucus-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Ozan Sahin <ozan.sahin@icann.org<mailto:ozan.sahin@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 3:37 PM To: "rssac-caucus@icann.org<mailto:rssac-caucus@icann.org>" <rssac-caucus@icann.org<mailto:rssac-caucus@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [RSSAC Caucus] RSSAC Caucus Travel Support for IETF 116 Yokohama, Japan Dear RSSAC Caucus Members, We have received the following requests for travel support to IETF 116. 1. Rao Naveed Bin Rais 2. Harish Chowdhary 3. Hafiz Farooq 4. Mallory Knodel 5. Abdulkarim Oloyede 6. Anand Raje 7. Dessalegn Yehuala According to the RSSAC Caucus IETF Supported Travelers Funding Guidelines, RSSAC Admin Committee is allocating two trip slots to the following RSSAC Caucus members: * Abdulkarim Oloyede * Dessalegn Yehuala For the remaining two slots, we will do a verifiable random selection as specified by RFC 3797. A Publicly Verifiable Random Selection Process will be conducted by Staff on Thursday 22 December 2022, using the RFC 3797 method. The results (as well as other data) will be announced to the list on the same day, after which you can verify the result yourself. Best regards, Ozan Sahin From: rssac-caucus <rssac-caucus-bounces@icann.org<mailto:rssac-caucus-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Ozan Sahin <ozan.sahin@icann.org<mailto:ozan.sahin@icann.org>> Date: 23 November 2022 Wednesday 17:12 To: "rssac-caucus@icann.org<mailto:rssac-caucus@icann.org>" <rssac-caucus@icann.org<mailto:rssac-caucus@icann.org>> Subject: [RSSAC Caucus] RSSAC Caucus Travel Support for IETF 116 Yokohama, Japan Dear RSSAC Caucus members, RSSAC Admin Committee understands that ICANN organization may be sharing new sponsered travel information and guidancefor ICANN community to attend non-ICANN events in the next weeks. As a result, travel support to attend even-numbered IETF meetings may be available once again. In order to not miss the relevant notice periods, RSSAC Admin Committee would like to start the selection process to identify sponsered RSSAC Caucus members to attend the next IETF meeting. IETF 116 will take place in Yokohama, Japan from 25 - 31 March 2023. Pending the travel advice from ICANN organization, there may be travel support for up to four (4) RSSAC Caucus Members to attend IETF 116 including economy class airfare, accommodation, registration, and per diem. As you may remember, RSSAC approved guidelines for RSSAC Caucus members requesting travel support to attend even-numbered IETF meetings in 2019. Please see the approved guidelines attached. Depending on how many requests we receive, the RSSAC Administrative Committee may need to make the selection based on the selection criteria outlined in the guidelines. If you would like to apply and be considered for travel support, please complete the following form by Friday, 2 December 2022: https://forms.gle/edQvwjYgVLzbgUSS9 [forms.gle]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/forms.gle/edQvwjYgVLzbgUSS9__;!!PtGJab4!9...> Best, Ozan Sahin Policy Development Support Senior Specialist Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Mobile: +90 533 641 0007 Skype: ozan.sahin.icann www.icann.org _______________________________________________ rssac-caucus mailing list rssac-caucus@icann.org<mailto:rssac-caucus@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rssac-caucus _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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