Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Hello again all, In addition to the editing and completeness issues, I have just noticed that a key component of the privacy recommendations appears to have changed since Dakar. Having just rechecked the Dakar recommendations, we agreed that ICANN should develop and manage a system of clear, consistent and enforceable requirements for ALL privacy service providers consistent with national law. The version in the latest report limits this to only 'registrar-operated' privacy services. This seems to me to be a significant change, as it limits the system to only part of the industry. Among other things, this could distort competition, lead to gaming behaviour, and provide a safe haven for bad actors. As I cannot see any source acknowledged or reason given in the document for this change (unlike the other recent changes) I don't know why or when this change occurred. As I am attempting to reach the point where I can sign this document off via a blackberry while in other meetings, this has significantly reduced my confidence. Could someone please look into this change, and also ensure that any other proposed changes to the recommendations that the review team has previously agreed are clearly notified to the group so that they can at least be discussed. Cheers, Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Kawaguchi [mailto:susank@fb.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:45 AM To: Nettlefold, Peter; 'lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com' <lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com>; 'emily@emilytaylor.eu' <emily@emilytaylor.eu>; 'rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org' <rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org>; 'rt4-whois@icann.org' <rt4-whois@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Rt4-whois] ACTION REQUIRED: What do I need to do now? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I agree with Peter I cannot really tell what I am agreeing to. Some of the comments are contrary to others so if I pick the one I am most aligned with then that makes sense to me but may not be the best for the report nor group. Should I edit the report in the way I am comfortable with it and then send my approved report to Alice? -----Original Message----- From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Nettlefold, Peter Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 4:34 PM To: 'lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com'; 'emily@emilytaylor.eu'; 'rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org'; 'rt4-whois@icann.org' Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] ACTION REQUIRED: What do I need to do now? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Hello again all, I've been trying to work my way through the findings and recommendations in the report, but am not sure I'm reading the right parts. The recommendations section has several overlapping parts, so that there are several recommendations on basically the same thing, in slightly different terms - for example, the recommendations on accuracy studies and the establishment of a privacy accreditation scheme. The findings also seem to be spread in different parts of the report, and not in final form. I may be reading the wrong version, but its not clear to me now what I would be signing off on (even without the outstanding proxy issue). Is this an issue others are having, or am I reading the wrong version? Cheers, Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Nettlefold, Peter Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:16 AM To: 'lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com' <lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com>; 'emily@emilytaylor.eu' <emily@emilytaylor.eu>; 'rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org' <rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org>; 'rt4-whois@icann.org' <rt4-whois@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] ACTION REQUIRED: What do I need to do now? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Hello all, I'll be trying to read the key parts of the report today while I'm in meetings. Thanks to all, as I agree we've made a huge amount of progress. Special thanks also to Emily for keeping this whole show moving. That said, there still seem to be some open issues which need to be resolved before we release - particularly our direction on proxies. I'll be monitoring emails today so will be interested to discuss where we go on that issue, as it is clearly on of our most difficult, and equally one where the community will be expecting us to provide direction. I think we all share a common goal of improving the current situation and reducing the incidence and risk of misuse, so I hope we can come forward with something strong on this. I'm also interested in our timelines from here. How long will the report be out for comment? When are we aiming to publish the final? Cheers, Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com [mailto:lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 07:47 AM To: Emily Taylor <emily@emilytaylor.eu>; rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org <rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org>; rt4-whois@icann.org <rt4-whois@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] ACTION REQUIRED: What do I need to do now? Thanks Emily for your endurance and pulling us through. Your request is reasonable. 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