Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Hi Emily and all, Thanks again to everyone for all the hard work on this. I'm heading to sleep soon, so may miss the sign off if it goes ahead. To hopefully help the proxy discussion along, I am comfortable with the principles/ideas in Seth's last email, so if there is a way to draft recommendations for ICANN to stop endorsing proxies and proactively clarify that anyone who engages in this practice should assume all liability, in a way that also addresses Susan's concerns, I would support those. I do not support limited or voluntary measures to address the current problems with privacy or proxy services. These services have a profound impact on the effectiveness of WHOIS, and are the primary mechanism used by registrants to address privacy concerns, and ICANN needs to address them in a clear and comprehensive way. My concern is that limited or voluntary solutions will encourage gaming and provide safe harbours for bad actors. I think we can do better than that, and can come up with recommendations that address the current problems without encouraging new ones. My other concerns are on record, so I'll pass the baton to whoever is awake, and wish you happy editing. Cheers Peter From: Emily Taylor [mailto:emily@emilytaylor.eu] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 08:41 PM To: rt4-whois@icann.org <rt4-whois@icann.org> Subject: [Rt4-whois] Recommendations and general update Hi all Thanks for your work overnight (or at least, my night). I'm trying to pull together the threads of the many e-mail messages that have passed in the last 12 hours or so. 1. Version control - this is proving a nightmare for everyone. I am sorry that so many of you have been struggling with this. I can see that we have had comments on the whole or part of the report from Bill, Susan, Peter, Lynn. I understand that Kathy was unable to see Bill's edits, so rolled back to an earlier version. There is also an incredibly annoying, persistent "comment" that is repeated about 100 times randomly throughout the document, and needs to be eliminated as it's confusing. Action: Alice, please would you circulate the latest copy of the Report to the list as soon as possible, getting rid of highlighting except where it indicates a major disagreement, and leaving in all the comments from Bill, Susan, Peter and Lynn, but removing that buggy one. 2. Recommendations - Peter noticed that the ambit of the privacy recommendations seems to have changed since Dakar, without an explanation of how or why that change was made. Clearly, this will tend to reduce confidence, so my focus this morning will be to review and circulate a copy of the recommendations. I'm assisted in this by Kathy's work yesterday. She and I have been puzzling over how to clean up/wordsmith/ etc the recommendations, while respecting the negotiated text. This is a very difficult task. There are also new recommendations on proxies, the one from Lutz on common interface, and one which I put in about the Whois Data Reminder Policy (from the compliance letter). Action: I will review the latest draft recommendations, and compare with the Dakar text. I will circulate a clean and marked up copy, with the latest versions of the recommendations, and an explanation for what has changed and why. 3. Deadline. I'm not prepared to give up yet! This is our draft report. It is not our final version. I will call it at 5pm UTC today. I want us to make every effort to get this out when we said we would. I really believe we can do this. Kind regards Emily -- [http://www.etlaw.co.uk/images/stories/etlaw/etclogo250x60.gif] 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK t: +44 (0)1865 582 811 • m: +44 (0)7540 049 322 emily@emilytaylor.eu<mailto:emily@emilytaylor.eu> www.etlaw.co.uk<http://www.etlaw.co.uk> Emily Taylor Consultancy Limited is a company registered in England and Wales No. 730471. VAT No. 114487713. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. This message has been content scanned by the Axway MailGate. MailGate uses policy enforcement to scan for known viruses, spam, undesirable content and malicious code. For more information on Axway products please visit www.axway.com. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------