Hi all, In advance of tonight's call, I just wanted to note that there seem to be two versions on v6 out there - one I sent yesterday with 'v6 pn' in the title, and more recent version sent by Susan with 'v6 Susan's comments'. I'm not commenting on the content as such, but just noting the version issue. Cheers, Peter From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 9:53 AM To: rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Executive Summary Hi All, I am sorry that I will not be able to attend the meeting in a few hours (it's at 2am my time). Thanks to everyone for all the discussion and editing! I support the Executive Summary and IDN Comments. I wanted to share a particular support for the new proxy/privacy point that Peter added. providing clear and unambiguous guidance on the rights and responsibilities of registered name holders, and how those should be managed in the privacy/proxy environment I'm happy to work with Alice on removing all the comments I inserted... and regards to all! Kathy : Thank you all for your hard work on the executive summary. I have made a few comments but for the most part I am in agreement with the current draft. Talk to you tonight. Susan Kawaguchi Domain Name Manager Facebook Legal Dept. Phone - 650 485-6064 _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:Rt4-whois@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. This message has been content scanned by the Axway MailGate. MailGate uses policy enforcement to scan for known viruses, spam, undesirable content and malicious code. For more information on Axway products please visit www.axway.com. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks Susan. I think the issue was that I made two rounds of comments, and so the last round which you mention (which had the minor changes to rec 1 and the changes to rec 9) seem to have been missed. Either way, I expect we can get it sorted on the call, if not before. As you were also on the staff call and part of the discussion on the scope of our accuracy recommendations, did you have any thoughts on my proposed changes to those? Cheers, Peter From: Susan Kawaguchi [mailto:susank@fb.com] Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:07 AM To: Nettlefold, Peter; rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Executive Summary [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Hi Peter, Your comments were in the version that I reviewed. Although, I am sure it was not the version in which you modified recommendation 9 and moved it to recommendation 5. Hopefully, we will be able to merge the comments into one document. Susan Kawaguchi Domain Name Manager Facebook Legal Dept. Phone - 650 485-6064 From: "Nettlefold, Peter" <Peter.Nettlefold@dbcde.gov.au<mailto:Peter.Nettlefold@dbcde.gov.au>> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:50:38 +1000 To: "rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org>" <rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Executive Summary [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Hi all, In advance of tonight's call, I just wanted to note that there seem to be two versions on v6 out there - one I sent yesterday with 'v6 pn' in the title, and more recent version sent by Susan with 'v6 Susan's comments'. I'm not commenting on the content as such, but just noting the version issue. Cheers, Peter From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 9:53 AM To: rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Executive Summary Hi All, I am sorry that I will not be able to attend the meeting in a few hours (it's at 2am my time). Thanks to everyone for all the discussion and editing! I support the Executive Summary and IDN Comments. I wanted to share a particular support for the new proxy/privacy point that Peter added. providing clear and unambiguous guidance on the rights and responsibilities of registered name holders, and how those should be managed in the privacy/proxy environment I'm happy to work with Alice on removing all the comments I inserted... and regards to all! Kathy : Thank you all for your hard work on the executive summary. I have made a few comments but for the most part I am in agreement with the current draft. Talk to you tonight. Susan Kawaguchi Domain Name Manager Facebook Legal Dept. Phone - 650 485-6064 _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:Rt4-whois@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. This message has been content scanned by the Axway MailGate. MailGate uses policy enforcement to scan for known viruses, spam, undesirable content and malicious code. For more information on Axway products please visit www.axway.com<http://www.axway.com>. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:Rt4-whois@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. This message has been content scanned by the Axway MailGate. MailGate uses policy enforcement to scan for known viruses, spam, undesirable content and malicious code. For more information on Axway products please visit www.axway.com. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

My comments on the current draft of Recommendation 10: Data Access- Privacy and Proxy Services Findings: Para 2: I agree with Peter to delete the word "legitimate". Recommendations: top of next page beginning with "ICANN could, for example, use a mix of": I would delete the phrase "to encourage proxy/privacy service providers to become accredited". Leaving the phrase in suggests that ICANN could tolerate a community of non-accredited proxy/privacy providers and I feel this is the wrong message to send. Same page bullet two: I am still confused who is provide the full details and if the details are of the service provider or the beneficiary user. Last paragraph last bullet. I like Peter's comment "Clarifying the issue of rights/responsibilities/liabilities should be an essential part of the proxy/privacy discussion, with the goal being clear and comprehensive guidance for the community." (I've tried to improve it a little). Can we place this statement above as a recommendation separate from the bullet points, perhaps as the second, third or fourth paragraph under Recommendations. I sense that strengthening this statement could address Susan's concerns as well. Seth From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Nettlefold, Peter Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 2:51 PM To: rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Executive Summary [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Hi all, In advance of tonight's call, I just wanted to note that there seem to be two versions on v6 out there - one I sent yesterday with 'v6 pn' in the title, and more recent version sent by Susan with 'v6 Susan's comments'. I'm not commenting on the content as such, but just noting the version issue. Cheers, Peter From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 9:53 AM To: rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Executive Summary Hi All, I am sorry that I will not be able to attend the meeting in a few hours (it's at 2am my time). Thanks to everyone for all the discussion and editing! I support the Executive Summary and IDN Comments. I wanted to share a particular support for the new proxy/privacy point that Peter added. providing clear and unambiguous guidance on the rights and responsibilities of registered name holders, and how those should be managed in the privacy/proxy environment I'm happy to work with Alice on removing all the comments I inserted... and regards to all! Kathy : Thank you all for your hard work on the executive summary. I have made a few comments but for the most part I am in agreement with the current draft. Talk to you tonight. Susan Kawaguchi Domain Name Manager Facebook Legal Dept. Phone - 650 485-6064 _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. This message has been content scanned by the Axway MailGate. MailGate uses policy enforcement to scan for known viruses, spam, undesirable content and malicious code. For more information on Axway products please visit www.axway.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---