Re: [Rt4-whois] Some practicalities for your consideration
Classification: [ NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED ] Olof, I am unable to attend the Columbia meeting. Bobby Flaim, FBI, will be there anyway~would it be appropriate for him to represent me at the Whois meeting, if I provide the relevant briefing? Sharon ________________________________ From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org To: 'rt4-whois@icann.org' Sent: Mon Nov 01 16:25:50 2010 Subject: [Rt4-whois] Some practicalities for your consideration Dear all, Below is a checklist regarding some practicalities for your consideration and decisions by the Review Team. There may be other aspects you wish to consider so It’s not intended to be exhaustive, but I hope it’s useful as a start. Very best regards Olof ----------- = 0A As an indication, the options that the ATRT selected are in bold below. 1. Meetings and conference calls a) Frequency (weekly, fortnightly?) b) Call length (60 or 90 minutes?) c) Call days and times (fixed days/times, rotating schedule, Doodle polls?) d) Open to public or not? If normally open, Chatham House Rules applicable if requested? 2. Documentation a) Call documentation (notes, recordings, transcripts, Adobe chat) posted - open to public or not? b) Mailing list archive open to public or not? c) Other documents (input information, draft reports etc) open to public or not? 3. Public input a) Permanent forum open for public comments by email? 4. Organization a) Have one or more Vice-Chairs? b) Have thematic sub-teams? c) Drafting by team members d) Seek consensus on recommendations but if not reached, dissenting views stated = 0D 5. Travel support Working assumption is that the WHOIS RT will have a one day face-to-face meeting at the ICANN meeting in Cartagena, on Sunday 5 Dec, and a one hour Introduction session for the community on Wednesday morning 8 Dec. FYI regarding travel support -please see http://icann.org/en/topics/travel-support/draft-travel-support-guidelines-05... This email was received from the INTERNET and scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus service supplied by Cable&Wireless Worldwide in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your organisation’s IT Helpdesk. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. All E-Mail sent and received by SOCA is scanned and subject to assessment. Messages sent or received by SOCA staff are not private and may be the subject of lawful business monitoring. E-Mail may be passed at any time and without notice to an appropriate branch within SOCA, on authority from the Director General or his Deputy for analysis. This E-Mail and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender as soon as possible. = 0D This information is supplied in confidence by SOCA, and is exempt from disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. It may also be subject to exemption under other UK legislation. Onward disclosure may be unlawful, for example, under the Data Protection Act 1998. Requests for disclosure to the public must be referred to the SOCA FOI single point of contact, by email on PICUEnquiries@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk or by telephoning 0870 268 8677. All E-Mail sent and received by SOCA is scanned and subject to assessment. Messages sent or received by SOCA staff are not private and may be the subject of lawful business monitoring. E-Mail may be passed at any time and without notice to an appropriate branch within SOCA, on authority from the Director General or his Deputy for analysis. This E-Mail and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender as soon as possible. The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet virus scanning service supplied by Cable&Wireless Worldwide in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus free. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes.
Dear Team, Lemon, Sharon wrote:
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Olof,
I am unable to attend the Columbia meeting. Bobby Flaim, FBI, will be there anyway~would it be appropriate for him to represent me
interesting (formal) question!
at the Whois meeting, if I provide the relevant briefing?
I have met Bobby F. already and would not have any issue with him being present. But I presume we should answer the more fundamental question: whether we are members of the Team in a personal cpacity (that is my understanding now) or rather representing some organisation(s) or interest(s)?
Sharon
Thus, Q to the less formally challenged than myself, are there any guidelines? A related question may be: is the Team allowed to invite non-members to (a) selected meeting(s) and or wrt selected topics? Thanks, Wilfried.
I too have no problem with Bobby Flaim and his ability to represent the legitimate views of law enforcement. His, or anyone else's substitution for one of our number is an interesting question. And it is *exactly* the type of question/issue that needs to be answered before we attempt to advance our work. It is my experience that it is also best to have answers to these questions, before they arise, lest we establish policy/process precedent "under the influence"; not of alcohol or drugs but pressure (personal, expediency, issue, etc.). Many of these questions are answered by using something like Robert's Rules. We could also look to the IETF RFCs that deal with how Working Groups progress their work, or the OASIS Technical Committee Process, or W3C's Process Document - all Internet-related activities and all with relatively long-standing, positive use. Or we could attempt to develop our own. It is my understanding that this Review Team is team of individuals; with some representing ICANN constituencies. Regardless, I believe we are serving in an personal capacity and consequently do not have the flexibility to send alternates. I urge us to consider adopting a set of well-established rules so that we can begin the work we were selected to perform. (If we do decide to allow alternates, we will then need to decide whether an alternate can be one of us. If we allow that, then we are granting an individual the right to cast two votes, if we make decisions by vote. That's most unusual, in my opinion. Proxies are also an issue to consider; and many others) In my opinion, having some formalism, can actually help us and therefore ICANN and Internet Governance generally.
-----Original Message----- From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 8:43 AM To: Lemon, Sharon Cc: rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Some practicalities for your consideration
Dear Team,
Lemon, Sharon wrote:
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Olof,
I am unable to attend the Columbia meeting. Bobby Flaim, FBI, will be there anyway~would it be appropriate for him to represent me
interesting (formal) question!
at the Whois meeting, if I provide the relevant briefing?
I have met Bobby F. already and would not have any issue with him being present.
But I presume we should answer the more fundamental question: whether we are members of the Team in a personal cpacity (that is my understanding now) or rather representing some organisation(s) or interest(s)?
Sharon
Thus, Q to the less formally challenged than myself, are there any guidelines?
A related question may be: is the Team allowed to invite non-members to (a) selected meeting(s) and or wrt selected topics?
Thanks, Wilfried. _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois
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