Hi, K. All good questions. ICANN's MSSI Staff determined that "ALL RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE FIRST SSR REVIEW (SSR1) HAVE BEEN FULLY IMPLEMENTED." Our Team hasn’t reached a conclusion on SSR1 Implementation. Unfortunately, it took a long time (over 6 months) for staff to give us the requisite briefings and provide the basic information the Team needed to assess SSR1 implementation (and several questions seem to still be unanswered). As you noted, we lack a fulsome, annotated report on implementation and, I agree, it's difficult to track staff responses to our questions about SSR1 implementation. MSSI Staff had agreed to track the status and provide answers to SSR2 requests for information in one place, but I can’t find it on the wiki. Ideally, we would have, or be able to quickly get, from staff a status and substantive summary of work on this and each issue area addressed by the Team to help in our “re-start.” At a minimum, putting all SSR1 questions and substantive answers w/ links in one place, as you’ve described, would, I think, fall under basic support duties. Perhaps we (including staff) could address this on the list and/or on one of our next calls? Best, Denise Denise Michel Domain Name System Strategy & Management Facebook, Inc. denisemichel@fb.com On 7/6/18, 7:52 PM, "k claffy" <kc@caida.org> wrote: Denise, this is all incredibly helpful information, although it's not clear to me the new volunteers will be able to process it all before august. i think we need help from icann staff to fill in answers to questions such as those on this page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen... with something more than "answered during the meeting; see meeting record." it does not make sense for 30 volunteers to separately all go dig through meeting records to find answers to these questions. can we get one person who is funded to support this work go compile answers to these questions and paste them inline into the doc, with a reference to the page from which they were summarized? that would help streamline this effort a great deal. i've a similar issue with the material for subgroup #1. i would expect some web page with a table that has in the left column the name of the recommendation (like on https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen... ) but some right-hand column that links to what consitutes the 'delivery' of that recommendation, e.g., the document, definition, or report of action recommended. instead i see a slide set: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis... which i guess talks about one recommendation. and https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis... which i guess is a table of questions trying to get such information from ICANN, but the information was never provided, or never made its way to this table? this begs the question of who wrote the bold face text on: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis... which says: ALL RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE FIRST SSR REVIEW (SSR1) HAVE BEEN FULLY IMPLEMENTED. NO FURTHER UPDATES TO THE QUARTERLY REPORT BELOW WILL BE POSTED. so, who actually determined that the above statement was true, and did SSR2 team ever confer with that person about how they arrived at that conclusion? or was this SSR2's conclusion? is part of the reason the team struggled is that they had no means to measure the success of SSR1, nor framework to acquire such a means? sorry if these are dense questions, i guess i'm still in the shallow end of the pool i fear drowning in, consider this a plea for a life vest. k On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 08:35:17PM +0000, Denise Michel wrote: > Hi, All (especially new members). > > We???ve attempted to pull together an initial digest of key items (w/ embedded links) to help you get up-to-speed on SSR2???s past work (hopefully without overwhelming you). There???s a lot to choose from on the wiki, so this is a first pass to help make your review more manageable. If you have the time and inclination, you can listen to every meeting and call the Team has had via the wiki, and review all correspondence and wiki postings. We encourage other Team members to add to the list below if needed, especially for sub-group work. Unfortunately, Team members don???t have write access to the wiki (only staff), so it???s a bit unwieldly and does not reflect Team member agreed upon content in all cases (something to work on). We haven???t had time to pull together documents relating to the ???pause??? and suggest we handle that separately. > > Please don???t hesitate to ask questions. > > Best, > Denise > > Denise Michel > Domain Name System Strategy & Management > Facebook, Inc. > denisemichel@fb.com<mailto:denisemichel@fb.com> > > > * Mandate<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> > * Terms of Reference/Scope<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> & Nov. 2017 Review Team email to SO/AC chairs on scope<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mm.icann.org_pipermail_s...> > * Background materials & briefings<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> > * Workplan<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreads...> (includes sub-group plans) > * Subgroups<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> (each subgroup page has more info; attempted to list key items below) > * Subgroup #1 - SSR1 Review<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> > * SSR1 Implementation Home & Final Report<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> > * SSR1 Implementation Briefing Materials (Google doc)<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen...> > * SSR1 open & completed requests here<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> & here<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen...> > * Subgroup #2 - ICANN SSR<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> > * Subgroup #2 topics/activities<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen...> > * Subgroup F2F meeting Oct. 2017<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pag...> - summary here<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mm.icann.org_pipermail_s...> & here<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pag...> > * Draft ???audit??? (review) Plan<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreads...> > * Subgroup# 3 ??? DNS SSR<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> > * Security/stability of DNS propsoed topics<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen...> > * Questions for Kim Davies<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> > * Subgroup #4 - Future Challenges<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> > * Subgroup proposed topics<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen...> > * Subgroup#5 IANA Transition<Subgroup%20#5%20-%20IANA%20Transition> > * Task Management<https://trello.com/b/CLrY87hn/ssr2-subtopic-5-iana-transition> > * Interview Notes - Kim Davies, Elise Gerich <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dow...> > > > _______________________________________________ > Ssr2-review mailing list > Ssr2-review@icann.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_li...