all, i've been reviewing transcripts from meetings last year and wonder if it's possible to get an update from ICANN on the DAAR system? more than a year has gone by and i wonder if the thinking/use/analysis/impact has evolved at all. or is there an updated web page i should be reading? e.g., there is a line from steve that says: The current status as far as I know is that, again, I think were having a session in Abu Dhabi to start determining what the community wants to see out of it [ do we know what the outcome of that conversation was? ] and what we want to do is we want to make it a better place out there for the consumers, not necessarily say, Well, this registrar or registry is a bad actor, and because all these other people are bad, that doesnt necessarily make them the bad actor. ... Whether or not theres going to be a plan, Id have to get back to the various departments and see. here is the report from that meeting: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QsvBp4GNW_TILEos29YQxTb4ZH7qcQFAh_4e0Xgx... which seems to have more questions than answers in it. i wonder if this is a reasonable place for this subgroup to re-start? also i wonder if anyone is following: https://www.icann.org/news/blog/contractual-compliance-addressing-domain-nam... and in particular RySG's comment on it at the bottom. not surprising, but, any thoughts? this seems like something we should be considering.. k
Hi, KC. I think your suggestion of a DAAR<https://www.icann.org/octo-ssr/daar> update is a good one, and suggest you send staff a question on the status and expected posting date. This can be logged in SSR2 questions and we can track the response. It’s relevant to issues involving both SSR1 implementation and internal and external SSR2 issues. Through the Business Constituency, I have been following DAAR and related reports from their inception, and the BC has received several "it's on its way" updates on DAAR over the years. I don’t recall anything since Abu Dhabi, however. (Separate from DAAR) On your question about the registry constituency comments on ICANN’S implementation of the CCCT Review abuse-related recommendation, they are in-line with both the registry and registrar groups’ historic position of minimizing ICANN/ICANN Compliance’s ability to get data from registrars and registries relating to DNS abuse. It’s not a position that several other ICANN groups share. Best, Denise Denise Michel Director, Domain Name System Strategy & Management Facebook, Inc. denisemichel@fb.com On 11/22/18, 9:24 AM, "Ssr2-review on behalf of k claffy" <ssr2-review-bounces@icann.org on behalf of kc@caida.org> wrote: all, i've been reviewing transcripts from meetings last year and wonder if it's possible to get an update from ICANN on the DAAR system? more than a year has gone by and i wonder if the thinking/use/analysis/impact has evolved at all. or is there an updated web page i should be reading? e.g., there is a line from steve that says: The current status as far as I know is that, again, I think were having a session in Abu Dhabi to start determining what the community wants to see out of it [ do we know what the outcome of that conversation was? ] and what we want to do is we want to make it a better place out there for the consumers, not necessarily say, Well, this registrar or registry is a bad actor, and because all these other people are bad, that doesnt necessarily make them the bad actor. ... Whether or not theres going to be a plan, Id have to get back to the various departments and see. here is the report from that meeting: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen... which seems to have more questions than answers in it. i wonder if this is a reasonable place for this subgroup to re-start? also i wonder if anyone is following: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_blog... and in particular RySG's comment on it at the bottom. not surprising, but, any thoughts? this seems like something we should be considering.. k _______________________________________________ Ssr2-review mailing list Ssr2-review@icann.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_li...
Denise, okydok. Dear Staff, can this count as this question/request, that we add to whatever is being logged? in related news, i learned that drc will presesnt a DAAR update to SSAC's admin committee call this week, i'll try to attend or get minutes from that call and summarize what i learned. k On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 09:16:51PM +0000, Denise Michel wrote:
Hi, KC.
I think your suggestion of a DAAR<https://www.icann.org/octo-ssr/daar> update is a good one, and suggest you send staff a question on the status and expected posting date. This can be logged in SSR2 questions and we can track the response.
It???s relevant to issues involving both SSR1 implementation and internal and external SSR2 issues.
Through the Business Constituency, I have been following DAAR and related reports from their inception, and the BC has received several "it's on its way" updates on DAAR over the years. I don???t recall anything since Abu Dhabi, however.
(Separate from DAAR) On your question about the registry constituency comments on ICANN???S implementation of the CCCT Review abuse-related recommendation, they are in-line with both the registry and registrar groups??? historic position of minimizing ICANN/ICANN Compliance???s ability to get data from registrars and registries relating to DNS abuse. It???s not a position that several other ICANN groups share.
Best, Denise
Denise Michel
Director, Domain Name System Strategy & Management
Facebook, Inc.
denisemichel@fb.com
???On 11/22/18, 9:24 AM, "Ssr2-review on behalf of k claffy" <ssr2-review-bounces@icann.org on behalf of kc@caida.org> wrote:
all,
i've been reviewing transcripts from meetings last year
and wonder if it's possible to get an update from ICANN
on the DAAR system? more than a year has gone by and i
wonder if the thinking/use/analysis/impact has evolved at all.
or is there an updated web page i should be reading?
e.g., there is a line from steve that says:
The current status as far as I know is that, again, I
think were having a session in Abu Dhabi to start
determining what the community wants to see out of it
[ do we know what the outcome of that conversation was? ]
and
what we want to do is we want to make it a better place
out there for the consumers, not necessarily say, Well,
this registrar or registry is a bad actor, and because
all these other people are bad, that doesnt necessarily
make them the bad actor.
...
Whether or not theres going to be a plan, Id have to
get back to the various departments and see.
here is the report from that meeting:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen...
which seems to have more questions than answers in it.
i wonder if this is a reasonable place for this subgroup
to re-start?
also i wonder if anyone is following:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_blog...
and in particular RySG's comment on it at the bottom.
not surprising, but, any thoughts? this seems like
something we should be considering..
k
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Hi KC, Yes. We will log your request in the system and proceed to look into feasible times for this presentation with the relevant SMEs. Kind regards, -- Negar From: Ssr2-review <ssr2-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of k claffy <kc@caida.org> Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 1:52 PM To: "ssr2-review@icann.org" <ssr2-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ssr2-review] DAAR etc. Denise, okydok. Dear Staff, can this count as this question/request, that we add to whatever is being logged? in related news, i learned that drc will presesnt a DAAR update to SSAC's admin committee call this week, i'll try to attend or get minutes from that call and summarize what i learned. k On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 09:16:51PM +0000, Denise Michel wrote:
Hi, KC.
I think your suggestion of a DAAR<https://www.icann.org/octo-ssr/daar> update is a good one, and suggest you send staff a question on the status and expected posting date. This can be logged in SSR2 questions and we can track the response.
It???s relevant to issues involving both SSR1 implementation and internal and external SSR2 issues.
Through the Business Constituency, I have been following DAAR and related reports from their inception, and the BC has received several "it's on its way" updates on DAAR over the years. I don???t recall anything since Abu Dhabi, however.
(Separate from DAAR) On your question about the registry constituency comments on ICANN???S implementation of the CCCT Review abuse-related recommendation, they are in-line with both the registry and registrar groups??? historic position of minimizing ICANN/ICANN Compliance???s ability to get data from registrars and registries relating to DNS abuse. It???s not a position that several other ICANN groups share.
Best,
Denise
Denise Michel
Director, Domain Name System Strategy & Management
Facebook, Inc.
denisemichel@fb.com
???On 11/22/18, 9:24 AM, "Ssr2-review on behalf of k claffy" <ssr2-review-bounces@icann.org on behalf of kc@caida.org> wrote:
all,
i've been reviewing transcripts from meetings last year
and wonder if it's possible to get an update from ICANN
on the DAAR system? more than a year has gone by and i
wonder if the thinking/use/analysis/impact has evolved at all.
or is there an updated web page i should be reading?
e.g., there is a line from steve that says:
The current status as far as I know is that, again, I
think were having a session in Abu Dhabi to start
determining what the community wants to see out of it
[ do we know what the outcome of that conversation was? ]
and
what we want to do is we want to make it a better place
out there for the consumers, not necessarily say, Well,
this registrar or registry is a bad actor, and because
all these other people are bad, that doesnt necessarily
make them the bad actor.
...
Whether or not theres going to be a plan, Id have to
get back to the various departments and see.
here is the report from that meeting:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen...
which seems to have more questions than answers in it.
i wonder if this is a reasonable place for this subgroup
to re-start?
also i wonder if anyone is following:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_blog...
and in particular RySG's comment on it at the bottom.
not surprising, but, any thoughts? this seems like
something we should be considering..
k
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