Following up on the BRG
After having engaged with the Brand Registry Group (BRG) during their session yesterday, I have grown very aware of how little they understand the importance of UA for their operations. They seem to be under the impression that our work only involves IDNs or some variation of this idea. Moving forward, I propose that we engage more strongly with this group. I will make sure to be present to talk about UA during their next F2F at an ICANN meeting, whenever this whole remote phase passes. On the meantime, please keep your eyes open for opportunities to engage with them. Regards, -- Mark W. Datysgeld from Governance Primer [www.markwd.website] In partnership with AR-TARC and the Brazilian Association of Software Companies (ABES)
Concur... On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 08:20 Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> wrote:
After having engaged with the Brand Registry Group (BRG) during their session yesterday, I have grown very aware of how little they understand the importance of UA for their operations. They seem to be under the impression that our work only involves IDNs or some variation of this idea.
Moving forward, I propose that we engage more strongly with this group. I will make sure to be present to talk about UA during their next F2F at an ICANN meeting, whenever this whole remote phase passes. On the meantime, please keep your eyes open for opportunities to engage with them.
Regards,
-- Mark W. Datysgeld from Governance Primer [www.markwd.website] In partnership with AR-TARC and the Brazilian Association of Software Companies (ABES)
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Mark Candidly I be at variance, you revealed that after engaging with the Brand Registry Group (BRG) during their session you got aware of how little they understand the importance of UA and its operations, this display show much our ambassadors and comms team is lacking in spreading awareness. Your statement is bit surprising why we need to wait for next F2F at an ICANN meeting, is knowledge transfer depended on F2F meetings only and you mean that it can’t be done on remote. Comms team should just be open for opportunities to engage with them even is its on remote and share the information most primitively. who knows next ICANN will also be on remote in given circumstances. Sorry but i believe that Individuals have a duty to move yonder self-centeredness or eyeing vested interest in such opportunities of being travelling funded for such activities if it can be done over remote. Kuan Ting On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:50 AM Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> wrote:
After having engaged with the Brand Registry Group (BRG) during their session yesterday, I have grown very aware of how little they understand the importance of UA for their operations. They seem to be under the impression that our work only involves IDNs or some variation of this idea.
Moving forward, I propose that we engage more strongly with this group. I will make sure to be present to talk about UA during their next F2F at an ICANN meeting, whenever this whole remote phase passes. On the meantime, please keep your eyes open for opportunities to engage with them.
Regards,
-- Mark W. Datysgeld from Governance Primer [www.markwd.website] In partnership with AR-TARC and the Brazilian Association of Software Companies (ABES)
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Don and I have been in touch with the Brand Registry Group before and I shared events with Martin Sutton where I gave presentations about UA. They know about UA and the UASG. If the Brand Registry Group is having the impression that the UASG is focussing on IDNs, I can´t blame them. The balance between IDNs and new gTLDs in UASG´s strategy and comms has been discussed several times in the past. All the best, Lars Von: UA-comms <ua-comms-bounces@icann.org> Im Auftrag von Kuan Ting Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. März 2020 06:15 An: Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> Cc: ua-comms@icann.org Betreff: Re: [UA-comms] Following up on the BRG Mark Candidly I be at variance, you revealed that after engaging with the Brand Registry Group (BRG) during their session you got aware of how little they understand the importance of UA and its operations, this display show much our ambassadors and comms team is lacking in spreading awareness. Your statement is bit surprising why we need to wait for next F2F at an ICANN meeting, is knowledge transfer depended on F2F meetings only and you mean that it can’t be done on remote. Comms team should just be open for opportunities to engage with them even is its on remote and share the information most primitively. who knows next ICANN will also be on remote in given circumstances. Sorry but i believe that Individuals have a duty to move yonder self-centeredness or eyeing vested interest in such opportunities of being travelling funded for such activities if it can be done over remote. Kuan Ting On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:50 AM Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com <mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com> > wrote: After having engaged with the Brand Registry Group (BRG) during their session yesterday, I have grown very aware of how little they understand the importance of UA for their operations. They seem to be under the impression that our work only involves IDNs or some variation of this idea. Moving forward, I propose that we engage more strongly with this group. I will make sure to be present to talk about UA during their next F2F at an ICANN meeting, whenever this whole remote phase passes. On the meantime, please keep your eyes open for opportunities to engage with them. Regards, -- Mark W. Datysgeld from Governance Primer [www.markwd.website] In partnership with AR-TARC and the Brazilian Association of Software Companies (ABES) _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
Well mentioned Lars, I can reminisce that to my best of the acquaintance I never see such concern of lack of knowledge with Brand Registry Group about UA and the UASG. It appendage my point that current Individuals are just eyeing vested interest in such opportunities of being travelling funded and not conveying plentiful what is essential. Kuan Ting On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:50 PM Lars Steffen <lars.steffen@eco.de> wrote:
Don and I have been in touch with the Brand Registry Group before and I shared events with Martin Sutton where I gave presentations about UA. They know about UA and the UASG.
If the Brand Registry Group is having the impression that the UASG is focussing on IDNs, I can´t blame them. The balance between IDNs and new gTLDs in UASG´s strategy and comms has been discussed several times in the past.
All the best,
Lars
*Von:* UA-comms <ua-comms-bounces@icann.org> *Im Auftrag von *Kuan Ting *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 11. März 2020 06:15 *An:* Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> *Cc:* ua-comms@icann.org *Betreff:* Re: [UA-comms] Following up on the BRG
Mark
Candidly I be at variance, you revealed that after engaging with the Brand Registry Group (BRG) during their session you got aware of how little they understand the importance of UA and its operations, this display show much our ambassadors and comms team is lacking in spreading awareness. Your statement is bit surprising why we need to wait for next F2F at an ICANN meeting, is knowledge transfer depended on F2F meetings only and you mean that it can’t be done on remote. Comms team should just be open for opportunities to engage with them even is its on remote and share the information most primitively. who knows next ICANN will also be on remote in given circumstances.
Sorry but i believe that Individuals have a duty to move yonder self-centeredness or eyeing vested interest in such opportunities of being travelling funded for such activities if it can be done over remote.
Kuan Ting
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:50 AM Mark W. Datysgeld < mark@governanceprimer.com> wrote:
After having engaged with the Brand Registry Group (BRG) during their session yesterday, I have grown very aware of how little they understand the importance of UA for their operations. They seem to be under the impression that our work only involves IDNs or some variation of this idea.
Moving forward, I propose that we engage more strongly with this group. I will make sure to be present to talk about UA during their next F2F at an ICANN meeting, whenever this whole remote phase passes. On the meantime, please keep your eyes open for opportunities to engage with them.
Regards,
-- Mark W. Datysgeld from Governance Primer [www.markwd.website] In partnership with AR-TARC and the Brazilian Association of Software Companies (ABES)
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Lars, indeed the messaging has not been adequately balanced between IDNs and nGTLDs most of the time. This is something to really think about as we develop strategies for 2020 and beyond. I've incorporated both themes in all my talks, but as the presentation evolves, IDN ends up taking up most of the real state. Perhaps exactly through more partnerships with the brands we would be able to generate more material. Best, -- Mark W. Datysgeld from Governance Primer [www.markwd.website] In partnership with AR-TARC and the Brazilian Association of Software Companies (ABES) On March 11, 2020 3:20:55 AM EDT, Lars Steffen <lars.steffen@eco.de> wrote:
Don and I have been in touch with the Brand Registry Group before and I shared events with Martin Sutton where I gave presentations about UA. They know about UA and the UASG.
If the Brand Registry Group is having the impression that the UASG is focussing on IDNs, I can´t blame them. The balance between IDNs and new gTLDs in UASG´s strategy and comms has been discussed several times in the past.
All the best,
Lars
Von: UA-comms <ua-comms-bounces@icann.org> Im Auftrag von Kuan Ting Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. März 2020 06:15 An: Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> Cc: ua-comms@icann.org Betreff: Re: [UA-comms] Following up on the BRG
Mark
Candidly I be at variance, you revealed that after engaging with the Brand Registry Group (BRG) during their session you got aware of how little they understand the importance of UA and its operations, this display show much our ambassadors and comms team is lacking in spreading awareness. Your statement is bit surprising why we need to wait for next F2F at an ICANN meeting, is knowledge transfer depended on F2F meetings only and you mean that it can’t be done on remote. Comms team should just be open for opportunities to engage with them even is its on remote and share the information most primitively. who knows next ICANN will also be on remote in given circumstances.
Sorry but i believe that Individuals have a duty to move yonder self-centeredness or eyeing vested interest in such opportunities of being travelling funded for such activities if it can be done over remote.
Kuan Ting
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:50 AM Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com <mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com> > wrote:
After having engaged with the Brand Registry Group (BRG) during their session yesterday, I have grown very aware of how little they understand the importance of UA for their operations. They seem to be under the impression that our work only involves IDNs or some variation of this idea.
Moving forward, I propose that we engage more strongly with this group.
I will make sure to be present to talk about UA during their next F2F at an ICANN meeting, whenever this whole remote phase passes. On the meantime, please keep your eyes open for opportunities to engage with them.
Regards,
-- Mark W. Datysgeld from Governance Primer [www.markwd.website] In partnership with AR-TARC and the Brazilian Association of Software Companies (ABES)
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Hi, at the last High Level Internet Governance Meeting of the European Commission was a presentation of a report on the identification of pressure points to speed up Internet standards deployment. I think some of the identified aspects are also valid for UA and might be taken into account for future UA activities. All the best, Lars Von: Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. März 2020 10:28 An: Lars Steffen <lars.steffen@eco.de> Cc: ua-comms@icann.org Betreff: Re: [UA-comms] Following up on the BRG Lars, indeed the messaging has not been adequately balanced between IDNs and nGTLDs most of the time. This is something to really think about as we develop strategies for 2020 and beyond. I've incorporated both themes in all my talks, but as the presentation evolves, IDN ends up taking up most of the real state. Perhaps exactly through more partnerships with the brands we would be able to generate more material. Best, -- Mark W. Datysgeld from Governance Primer [www.markwd.website] In partnership with AR-TARC and the Brazilian Association of Software Companies (ABES) On March 11, 2020 3:20:55 AM EDT, Lars Steffen < <mailto:lars.steffen@eco.de> lars.steffen@eco.de> wrote: Don and I have been in touch with the Brand Registry Group before and I shared events with Martin Sutton where I gave presentations about UA. They know about UA and the UASG. If the Brand Registry Group is having the impression that the UASG is focussing on IDNs, I can´t blame them. The balance between IDNs and new gTLDs in UASG´s strategy and comms has been discussed several times in the past. All the best, Lars Von: UA-comms <ua-comms-bounces@icann.org <mailto:ua-comms-bounces@icann.org> > Im Auftrag von Kuan Ting Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. März 2020 06:15 An: Mark W. Datysgeld < <mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com> mark@governanceprimer.com> Cc: <mailto:ua-comms@icann.org> ua-comms@icann.org Betreff: Re: [UA-comms] Following up on the BRG Mark Candidly I be at variance, you revealed that after engaging with the Brand Registry Group (BRG) during their session you got aware of how little they understand the importance of UA and its operations, this display show much our ambassadors and comms team is lacking in spreading awareness. Your statement is bit surprising why we need to wait for next F2F at an ICANN meeting, is knowledge transfer depended on F2F meetings only and you mean that it can’t be done on remote. Comms team should just be open for opportunities to engage with them even is its on remote and share the information most primitively. who knows next ICANN will also be on remote in given circumstances. Sorry but i believe that Individuals have a duty to move yonder self-centeredness or eyeing vested interest in such opportunities of being travelling funded for such activities if it can be done over remote. Kuan Ting On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:50 AM Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com <mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com> > wrote: After having engaged with the Brand Registry Group (BRG) during their session yesterday, I have grown very aware of how little they understand the importance of UA for their operations. They seem to be under the impression that our work only involves IDNs or some variation of this idea. Moving forward, I propose that we engage more strongly with this group. I will make sure to be present to talk about UA during their next F2F at an ICANN meeting, whenever this whole remote phase passes. On the meantime, please keep your eyes open for opportunities to engage with them. Regards, -- Mark W. Datysgeld from Governance Primer [www.markwd.website] In partnership with AR-TARC and the Brazilian Association of Software Companies (ABES) _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
Hi all, I would add that messaging should be balanced better between new gTLDs, IDNs and EAI issues. Including uasg materials.Отправлено со смартфона Samsung Galaxy. -------- Исходное сообщение --------От: "Mark W. Datysgeld" <mark@governanceprimer.com> Дата: 11.03.2020 12:29 (GMT+03:00) Кому: Lars Steffen <lars.steffen@eco.de> Копия: ua-comms@icann.org Тема: Re: [UA-comms] Following up on the BRG Lars, indeed the messaging has not been adequately balanced between IDNs and nGTLDs most of the time. This is something to really think about as we develop strategies for 2020 and beyond.I've incorporated both themes in all my talks, but as the presentation evolves, IDN ends up taking up most of the real state. Perhaps exactly through more partnerships with the brands we would be able to generate more material.Best,-- Mark W. Datysgeld from Governance Primer [www.markwd.website]In partnership with AR-TARC and the Brazilian Association of Software Companies (ABES)On March 11, 2020 3:20:55 AM EDT, Lars Steffen <lars.steffen@eco.de> wrote: Don and I have been in touch with the Brand Registry Group before and I shared events with Martin Sutton where I gave presentations about UA. They know about UA and the UASG.If the Brand Registry Group is having the impression that the UASG is focussing on IDNs, I can´t blame them. The balance between IDNs and new gTLDs in UASG´s strategy and comms has been discussed several times in the past.All the best,Lars Von: UA-comms <ua-comms-bounces@icann.org> Im Auftrag von Kuan TingGesendet: Mittwoch, 11. März 2020 06:15An: Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com>Cc: ua-comms@icann.orgBetreff: Re: [UA-comms] Following up on the BRG Mark Candidly I be at variance, you revealed that after engaging with the Brand Registry Group (BRG) during their session you got aware of how little they understand the importance of UA and its operations, this display show much our ambassadors and comms team is lacking in spreading awareness. Your statement is bit surprising why we need to wait for next F2F at an ICANN meeting, is knowledge transfer depended on F2F meetings only and you mean that it can’t be done on remote. Comms team should just be open for opportunities to engage with them even is its on remote and share the information most primitively. who knows next ICANN will also be on remote in given circumstances. Sorry but i believe that Individuals have a duty to move yonder self-centeredness or eyeing vested interest in such opportunities of being travelling funded for such activities if it can be done over remote. Kuan Ting On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:50 AM Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> wrote:After having engaged with the Brand Registry Group (BRG) during their session yesterday, I have grown very aware of how little they understand the importance of UA for their operations. They seem to be under the impression that our work only involves IDNs or some variation of this idea.Moving forward, I propose that we engage more strongly with this group. I will make sure to be present to talk about UA during their next F2F at an ICANN meeting, whenever this whole remote phase passes. On the meantime, please keep your eyes open for opportunities to engage with them.Regards,-- Mark W. Datysgeld from Governance Primer [www.markwd.website]In partnership with AR-TARC and the Brazilian Association of Software Companies (ABES)_______________________________________________By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
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