John Levine has run an analysis of the EAI Readiness of the Internet's mail servers. His DRAFT report is at https://docs.google.com/document/d/18W-dAr1Nhe_gVlFKDQZqsqB4bf5N86wryEcALnyU... This has some interesting findings: 1. We now have a baseline measurement of EAI Readiness so we can measure progress over time. NB: This is all EAI Phase 1 readiness, the ability to Send To and Receive From all email addresses. This does not address the issue of being able to host an EAI address. That's being done in a separate effort. 2. We also have a list of the large MTAs (that announce their platform). This will be useful as we pursue the last phase of the EAI Evaluation. 3. We've also seen the impact of Microsoft's online facilities becoming EAI ready earlier this year. 4. The EAI Readiness by TLD is potentially interesting. I've asked John to see if there are any marked differences with IDN TLDs. Before John does any more work on this, I'm putting it out to this group for comments. Once we're happy with the results we'll publish this as a report and on our Dashboard. We'll also schedule this to be run once a quarter. Comments are welcome. Don Don Hollander Secretary General - UASG Skype: Don_Hollander
Thanks a lot to Don and John. I think that the result is amazing. Since UASG was created to promote EAI and IDN, I think that EAI deployment has achieved a great progress. For exmaples: 1. major open source MTA is eai ready. 2. world class commerical email servers(microsoft hotmail and gmail) are eai ready. If I read it correctly, I am surprised at that more than 10 percent of COM domain names are eai ready now. It is a very big number. When this report is finalized, I suggest that UASG can release some news to let the public and some email vendors to know it. for examples: news 1: major open source MTA is eai ready. news 2: world class commerical email servers(microsoft hotmail and gmail) are eai ready. news 3: more than 10 percent of COM domain names are eai ready. Cheers! Jiankang Yao From: Don Hollander Date: 2018-11-18 02:15 To: ua-eai@icann.org; ua coordinator; Paul Hoffman; Evan Hanson CC: `john levine` Subject: [UA-Coordination] Draft Results: EAI Readiness John Levine has run an analysis of the EAI Readiness of the Internet��s mail servers. His DRAFT report is at https://docs.google.com/document/d/18W-dAr1Nhe_gVlFKDQZqsqB4bf5N86wryEcALnyU... This has some interesting findings: We now have a baseline measurement of EAI Readiness so we can measure progress over time. NB: This is all EAI Phase 1 readiness, the ability to Send To and Receive From all email addresses. This does not address the issue of being able to host an EAI address. That��s being done in a separate effort. We also have a list of the large MTAs (that announce their platform). This will be useful as we pursue the last phase of the EAI Evaluation. We��ve also seen the impact of Microsoft��s online facilities becoming EAI ready earlier this year. The EAI Readiness by TLD is potentially interesting. I��ve asked John to see if there are any marked differences with IDN TLDs. Before John does any more work on this, I��m putting it out to this group for comments. Once we��re happy with the results we��ll publish this as a report and on our Dashboard. We��ll also schedule this to be run once a quarter. Comments are welcome. Don Don Hollander Secretary General �C UASG Skype: Don_Hollander
If I read it correctly, I am surprised at that more than 10 percent of COM domain names are eai ready now. It is a very big number.
I redid the checks to be sure. I sampled 3655 mail servers that handle 10372 domains in .com. Of those, 200 servers handling 1417 domains announced SMTPUTF8, so it's 5.5% of the servers or 13.7% of the domains. That's because both gmail and outlook.com handle a lot of domains on relatively few IPs. R's, John
When this report is finalized, I suggest that UASG can release some news to let the public and some email vendors to know it. for examples: news 1: major open source MTA is eai ready. news 2: world class commerical email servers(microsoft hotmail and gmail) are eai ready. news 3: more than 10 percent of COM domain names are eai ready.
Cheers!
Jiankang Yao
From: Don Hollander Date: 2018-11-18 02:15 To: ua-eai@icann.org; ua coordinator; Paul Hoffman; Evan Hanson CC: `john levine` Subject: [UA-Coordination] Draft Results: EAI Readiness John Levine has run an analysis of the EAI Readiness of the Internet’s mail servers.
His DRAFT report is at https://docs.google.com/document/d/18W-dAr1Nhe_gVlFKDQZqsqB4bf5N86wryEcALnyU...
This has some interesting findings:
We now have a baseline measurement of EAI Readiness so we can measure progress over time. NB: This is all EAI Phase 1 readiness, the ability to Send To and Receive From all email addresses. This does not address the issue of being able to host an EAI address. That’s being done in a separate effort. We also have a list of the large MTAs (that announce their platform). This will be useful as we pursue the last phase of the EAI Evaluation. We’ve also seen the impact of Microsoft’s online facilities becoming EAI ready earlier this year. The EAI Readiness by TLD is potentially interesting. I’ve asked John to see if there are any marked differences with IDN TLDs.
Before John does any more work on this, I’m putting it out to this group for comments.
Once we’re happy with the results we’ll publish this as a report and on our Dashboard. We’ll also schedule this to be run once a quarter.
Comments are welcome.
Don
Don Hollander Secretary General – UASG Skype: Don_Hollander
Regards, John Levine, john.levine@standcore.com Standcore LLC
Thanks. We need to get the formal evaluation of EAI Readiness done first. John's table is based on our understanding of the status. D From: Jiankang Yao <yaojk@cnnic.cn> Sent: Monday, 19 November 2018 5:41 AM To: Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org>; ua-eai@icann.org; ua-coordination@icann.org; Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org>; Evan Hanson <evanh@catalyst.net.nz> Cc: John Levine <john.levine@standcore.com> Subject: [Ext] Re: [UA-Coordination] Draft Results: EAI Readiness Thanks a lot to Don and John. I think that the result is amazing. Since UASG was created to promote EAI and IDN, I think that EAI deployment has achieved a great progress. For exmaples: 1. major open source MTA is eai ready. 2. world class commerical email servers(microsoft hotmail and gmail) are eai ready. If I read it correctly, I am surprised at that more than 10 percent of COM domain names are eai ready now. It is a very big number. When this report is finalized, I suggest that UASG can release some news to let the public and some email vendors to know it. for examples: news 1: major open source MTA is eai ready. news 2: world class commerical email servers(microsoft hotmail and gmail) are eai ready. news 3: more than 10 percent of COM domain names are eai ready. Cheers! ________________________________ Jiankang Yao From: Don Hollander<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org> Date: 2018-11-18 02:15 To: ua-eai@icann.org<mailto:ua-eai@icann.org>; ua coordinator<mailto:ua-coordination@icann.org>; Paul Hoffman<mailto:paul.hoffman@icann.org>; Evan Hanson<mailto:evanh@catalyst.net.nz> CC: `john levine`<mailto:john.levine@standcore.com> Subject: [UA-Coordination] Draft Results: EAI Readiness John Levine has run an analysis of the EAI Readiness of the Internet's mail servers. His DRAFT report is at https://docs.google.com/document/d/18W-dAr1Nhe_gVlFKDQZqsqB4bf5N86wryEcALnyU... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen...> This has some interesting findings: 1. We now have a baseline measurement of EAI Readiness so we can measure progress over time. NB: This is all EAI Phase 1 readiness, the ability to Send To and Receive From all email addresses. This does not address the issue of being able to host an EAI address. That's being done in a separate effort. 2. We also have a list of the large MTAs (that announce their platform). This will be useful as we pursue the last phase of the EAI Evaluation. 3. We've also seen the impact of Microsoft's online facilities becoming EAI ready earlier this year. 4. The EAI Readiness by TLD is potentially interesting. I've asked John to see if there are any marked differences with IDN TLDs. Before John does any more work on this, I'm putting it out to this group for comments. Once we're happy with the results we'll publish this as a report and on our Dashboard. We'll also schedule this to be run once a quarter. Comments are welcome. Don Don Hollander Secretary General - UASG Skype: Don_Hollander
The report looks good to me. Thanks John, Don (and everyone really ;) ). cheers On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 19:15:06 +0100, Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org> wrote:
John Levine has run an analysis of the EAI Readiness of the Internet’s mail servers.
His DRAFT report is at https://docs.google.com/document/d/18W-dAr1Nhe_gVlFKDQZqsqB4bf5N86wryEcALnyUPTc/>edit#heading=h.dba7p1kazxqa
This has some interesting findings:
We now have a baseline measurement of EAI Readiness so we can measure progress over time. NB: This is all EAI Phase 1 >readiness, the ability to Send To and Receive From all email addresses. This does not address the issue of being able to host an >EAI address. That’s being done in a separate effort. We also have a list of the large MTAs (that announce their platform). This will be useful as we pursue the last phase of the EAI >Evaluation. We’ve also seen the impact of Microsoft’s online facilities becoming EAI ready earlier this year. The EAI Readiness by TLD is potentially interesting. I’ve asked John to see if there are any marked differences with IDN TLDs.
Before John does any more work on this, I’m putting it out to this group for comments.
Once we’re happy with the results we’ll publish this as a report and on our Dashboard. We’ll also schedule this to be run once a quarter.
Comments are welcome.
Don
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John, can you clarify the “Outlook.com” and “Microsoft” categories? I think you may be lumping O365 with Exchange server (cloud service versus on-premises server). From: UA-EAI <ua-eai-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Charles 'chaals' (McCathie) Nevile Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 08:51 To: ua-eai@icann.org Subject: Re: [UA-EAI] Draft Results: EAI Readiness The report looks good to me. Thanks John, Don (and everyone really ;) ). cheers On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 19:15:06 +0100, Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>> wrote: John Levine has run an analysis of the EAI Readiness of the Internet’s mail servers. His DRAFT report is at https://docs.google.com/document/d/18W-dAr1Nhe_gVlFKDQZqsqB4bf5N86wryEcALnyUPTc/edit#heading=h.dba7p1kazxqa<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F18W-dAr1Nhe_gVlFKDQZqsqB4bf5N86wryEcALnyUPTc%2Fedit%23heading%3Dh.dba7p1kazxqa&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C4e1ef48eba74451707c408d64d7620be%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636781567103879194&sdata=6GE%2FSwmX909dQigK2XMDs1Y7x0VLQGatHbI5Jcq%2Bwxo%3D&reserved=0> This has some interesting findings: 1. We now have a baseline measurement of EAI Readiness so we can measure progress over time. NB: This is all EAI Phase 1 readiness, the ability to Send To and Receive From all email addresses. This does not address the issue of being able to host an EAI address. That’s being done in a separate effort. 2. We also have a list of the large MTAs (that announce their platform). This will be useful as we pursue the last phase of the EAI Evaluation. 3. We’ve also seen the impact of Microsoft’s online facilities becoming EAI ready earlier this year. 4. The EAI Readiness by TLD is potentially interesting. I’ve asked John to see if there are any marked differences with IDN TLDs. Before John does any more work on this, I’m putting it out to this group for comments. Once we’re happy with the results we’ll publish this as a report and on our Dashboard. We’ll also schedule this to be run once a quarter. Comments are welcome. Don Don Hollander Secretary General – UASG Skype: Don_Hollander -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.opera.com%2Fmail%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C4e1ef48eba74451707c408d64d7620be%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636781567103889194&sdata=ogCDPz89VYpWfp04mUVChKJrJdI%2Fx8pbCK912aotay4%3D&reserved=0>
In article <BL0PR2101MB1028956049524F6B566A16EAD1D80@BL0PR2101MB1028.namprd21.prod.outlook.com> you write:
John, can you clarify the “Outlook.com” and “Microsoft” categories?
I think you may be lumping O365 with Exchange server (cloud service versus on-premises server).
outlook.com is O365, Microsoft is anything else that said Microsoft in the banner but wasn't outlook.com, presumably Exchange server R's, John
Could you change "Outlook.com" --> "O365/Outlook.com"? -----Original Message----- From: John Levine <john.levine@standcore.com> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 1:40 PM To: ua-eai@icann.org Cc: Mark Svancarek (CELA) <marksv@microsoft.com> Subject: Re: [UA-EAI] Draft Results: EAI Readiness In article <BL0PR2101MB1028956049524F6B566A16EAD1D80@BL0PR2101MB1028.namprd21.prod.outlook.com> you write:
John, can you clarify the “Outlook.com” and “Microsoft” categories?
I think you may be lumping O365 with Exchange server (cloud service versus on-premises server).
outlook.com is O365, Microsoft is anything else that said Microsoft in the banner but wasn't outlook.com, presumably Exchange server R's, John
I notice that the scale in the initial bar chart (All/large/non-IDN/IDN) starts at 4%, rather than 0%. Perhaps it would be better to have it start at 0? Paul
17 нояб. 2018 г., в 10:15 ДП, Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org> написал(а):
John Levine has run an analysis of the EAI Readiness of the Internet’s mail servers.
His DRAFT report is at https://docs.google.com/document/d/18W-dAr1Nhe_gVlFKDQZqsqB4bf5N86wryEcALnyU...
This has some interesting findings:
• We now have a baseline measurement of EAI Readiness so we can measure progress over time. NB: This is all EAI Phase 1 readiness, the ability to Send To and Receive From all email addresses. This does not address the issue of being able to host an EAI address. That’s being done in a separate effort. • We also have a list of the large MTAs (that announce their platform). This will be useful as we pursue the last phase of the EAI Evaluation. • We’ve also seen the impact of Microsoft’s online facilities becoming EAI ready earlier this year. • The EAI Readiness by TLD is potentially interesting. I’ve asked John to see if there are any marked differences with IDN TLDs.
Before John does any more work on this, I’m putting it out to this group for comments.
Once we’re happy with the results we’ll publish this as a report and on our Dashboard. We’ll also schedule this to be run once a quarter.
Comments are welcome.
Don
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In article <5A93D4FE-229E-4C17-AF7B-E54E513CE98B@apple.com> you write:
I notice that the scale in the initial bar chart (All/large/non-IDN/IDN) starts at 4%, rather than 0%. Perhaps it would be better to have it start at 0?
I tried that, you can't read tne numbers or tell the difference between the bars. R's, John
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