Fwd: Notice of publication: Integrated Issues Report in the IDN Variant Project
I am confused. On Dec 6 the draft report was sent to this mailing list. A number of comments where sent in. Then today I saw an announcement on an external mailing list (Unicode) that a public comment period have started on some version of the document. Questions: Are these the same documents? (I admit I have not done a detailed comparison, but I do not have energy comparing a word document with a PDF at this time of the day...) If so, why did not the public comment period start on Dec 6? If not, why was not a new version sent to this list that was approved before it was opened for public comments? I do have more questions on the process here, but what they are will depend on the responses on these two questions. Patrik Fältström Begin forwarded message:
From: Patrick Jones <patrick.jones@icann.org> Subject: Notice of publication: Integrated Issues Report in the IDN Variant Project Date: 24 december 2011 04:10:16 CET To: "unicore@unicode.org" <unicore@unicode.org>
As a follow-up to our update during the UTC meeting in November, ICANN has published today the Integrated Issues Report in the IDN Variant Project. The report is being published for public comment until 30 Jan 2012. See http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-23dec11-en.htm. Comments welcomed.
Best regards,
Patrick
-- Patrick L. Jones Senior Manager, Security IDN team Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers 1101 New York Avenue, NW, Suite 930 Washington, DC 20005 Tel: +1 202 570 7115 patrick.jones@icann.org patrickjones.tel
Patrik - I passed along the announcement of the draft Integrated Issues Report to the Unicode list after the announcement was published. I should have included in my note that this was a draft report, that’s my mistake. The Integration Team met in Marina del Rey, California on 12-13 Dec (and virtually throughout the week). The team has put an immense amount of time into the report, and I believe did pick up many of the comments made on the VIP list. I’ll leave it to others with the Integration team to answer your specific process questions. Perhaps I should have included more explanatory text in note to Unicode to explain what this was, or waited to send, but since the announcement was public, I didn’t see the harm in passing along to that as we have done so previously with the case study reports. Patrick On 12/24/11 2:19 AM, "Patrik Fältström" <patrik@frobbit.se> wrote: I am confused. On Dec 6 the draft report was sent to this mailing list. A number of comments where sent in. Then today I saw an announcement on an external mailing list (Unicode) that a public comment period have started on some version of the document. Questions: Are these the same documents? (I admit I have not done a detailed comparison, but I do not have energy comparing a word document with a PDF at this time of the day...) If so, why did not the public comment period start on Dec 6? If not, why was not a new version sent to this list that was approved before it was opened for public comments? I do have more questions on the process here, but what they are will depend on the responses on these two questions. Patrik Fältström Begin forwarded message: From: Patrick Jones <patrick.jones@icann.org> Subject: Notice of publication: Integrated Issues Report in the IDN Variant Project Date: 24 december 2011 04:10:16 CET To: "unicore@unicode.org" <unicore@unicode.org> Notice of publication: Integrated Issues Report in the IDN Variant Project As a follow-up to our update during the UTC meeting in November, ICANN has published today the Integrated Issues Report in the IDN Variant Project. The report is being published for public comment until 30 Jan 2012. See http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-23dec11-en.htm. Comments welcomed. Best regards, Patrick
Dear Patrik, The version that we sent earlier to the vip list was a preliminary version of the report. The goal is to inform interested community members of our progress and provide an early opportunity for feedback. Several community members (including you) have provided comments. We went through these comments, along with comments from the integrated team, one by one and addressed them in the latest document we published yesterday. Now the document is officially published, there is more opportunity to provide feedback through the public comment box at http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-23dec11-en.htm Thanks again for your previous comments, we invite you and other interested community members to continue provide comments to improve this report. Kind regards, Steve From: vip-bounces@icann.org [vip-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Patrik Fältström [patrik@frobbit.se] Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 11:19 PM To: vip@icann.org Subject: [vip] Fwd: Notice of publication: Integrated Issues Report in the IDN Variant Project I am confused. On Dec 6 the draft report was sent to this mailing list. A number of comments where sent in. Then today I saw an announcement on an external mailing list (Unicode) that a public comment period have started on some version of the document. Questions: Are these the same documents? (I admit I have not done a detailed comparison, but I do not have energy comparing a word document with a PDF at this time of the day...) If so, why did not the public comment period start on Dec 6? If not, why was not a new version sent to this list that was approved before it was opened for public comments? I do have more questions on the process here, but what they are will depend on the responses on these two questions. Patrik Fältström Begin forwarded message: From: Patrick Jones <patrick.jones@icann.org<mailto:patrick.jones@icann.org>> Subject: Notice of publication: Integrated Issues Report in the IDN Variant Project Date: 24 december 2011 04:10:16 CET To: "unicore@unicode.org<mailto:unicore@unicode.org>" <unicore@unicode.org<mailto:unicore@unicode.org>> As a follow-up to our update during the UTC meeting in November, ICANN has published today the Integrated Issues Report in the IDN Variant Project. The report is being published for public comment until 30 Jan 2012. See http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-23dec11-en.htm. Comments welcomed. Best regards, Patrick -- Patrick L. Jones Senior Manager, Security IDN team Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers 1101 New York Avenue, NW, Suite 930 Washington, DC 20005 Tel: +1 202 570 7115 patrick.jones@icann.org<x-msg://4507/patrick.jones@icann.org> patrickjones.tel
All, First, happy holidays on you all! The reason I ask is that the comments on the list that people being members of the vip mailing list was more or less sent without any comments. Also, no new version with for example change bars was sent back. Now a new document is in the open comment period, without any announcement what so ever to the vip list. In a different format so that making a version with change bars is more or less impossible. And the version on the open comment period is still not sent to this list for comments. I am just confused over how the core team is thinking the rest of us on the vip list should be able to help? Maybe that can be clarified? Patrik On 24 dec 2011, at 19:06, Steve Sheng wrote:
Dear Patrik,
The version that we sent earlier to the vip list was a preliminary version of the report. The goal is to inform interested community members of our progress and provide an early opportunity for feedback. Several community members (including you) have provided comments. We went through these comments, along with comments from the integrated team, one by one and addressed them in the latest document we published yesterday.
Now the document is officially published, there is more opportunity to provide feedback through the public comment box at http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-23dec11-en.htm
Thanks again for your previous comments, we invite you and other interested community members to continue provide comments to improve this report.
Kind regards, Steve
From: vip-bounces@icann.org [vip-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Patrik Fältström [patrik@frobbit.se] Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 11:19 PM To: vip@icann.org Subject: [vip] Fwd: Notice of publication: Integrated Issues Report in the IDN Variant Project
I am confused.
On Dec 6 the draft report was sent to this mailing list.
A number of comments where sent in.
Then today I saw an announcement on an external mailing list (Unicode) that a public comment period have started on some version of the document.
Questions:
Are these the same documents?
(I admit I have not done a detailed comparison, but I do not have energy comparing a word document with a PDF at this time of the day...)
If so, why did not the public comment period start on Dec 6?
If not, why was not a new version sent to this list that was approved before it was opened for public comments?
I do have more questions on the process here, but what they are will depend on the responses on these two questions.
Patrik Fältström
Begin forwarded message:
From: Patrick Jones <patrick.jones@icann.org<mailto:patrick.jones@icann.org>> Subject: Notice of publication: Integrated Issues Report in the IDN Variant Project Date: 24 december 2011 04:10:16 CET To: "unicore@unicode.org<mailto:unicore@unicode.org>" <unicore@unicode.org<mailto:unicore@unicode.org>>
As a follow-up to our update during the UTC meeting in November, ICANN has published today the Integrated Issues Report in the IDN Variant Project. The report is being published for public comment until 30 Jan 2012. See http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-23dec11-en.htm. Comments welcomed.
Best regards,
Patrick
-- Patrick L. Jones Senior Manager, Security IDN team Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers 1101 New York Avenue, NW, Suite 930 Washington, DC 20005 Tel: +1 202 570 7115 patrick.jones@icann.org<x-msg://4507/patrick.jones@icann.org> patrickjones.tel
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