-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 We have been through this before. ICANN must respect human rights. Period. No watering down. No deferring for ever and a day (until the cows come down, ad kalendas Graecas, or for the eco members: Sankt Nimmerleinstag). This is a show stopper for me. el On 2015-11-06 07:57, Niels ten Oever wrote:
Dear all,
I think the text now clearly sets out the difference between respect and protect, which is both reflected in the analysis and in the bylaw text.
The framework for interpretation and implementation (there are many different ways to do this, it is not black or white) is to be developed after WS1 (as is also extensively elaborated in the document).
So I am also a bit unclear about the critique of the proposed text.
If you have corrections which can make to text clearer or improve it, for which we can find consensus, I am sure everyone would appreciate it a lot.
Best,
Niels
On 11/05/2015 03:43 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
My view on this is:
Either someone respects human rights or one doesn't.
But to say one respects them and then say "but when we don't, go talk to Isaac"[1], is not right.
greetings, el
[1] A variation of the reference to Arkell v Presdramm (1971, unreported) pertaining to the Manager of a particular ccTLD.
On 2015-11-05 16:26, Nigel Roberts wrote:
I'm fine with the first sentence.
It's the subsequent qualifiers that could easily be interpreted to mean ICANN can ignore it in practice that seem problematic to me.
But no doubt others are better at expressing this than I.
On 05/11/15 14:15, Greg Shatan wrote:
Our very first sentence says that ICANN will respect Human RIghts. Still not seeing the issue.
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