Hi Renata. I cannot respond with authority about that but I dont recall ICANN or any group asking for ethnicity and religion as data. I think they are sensitive information and may be controversial in particular for the latter. Most of information we found are via self-reporting or for selection. I wonder about the legal aspects of collecting data beyond demographics ones , including data protection etc . Best, Rafik On Dec 20, 2016 10:57 AM, "Renata Aquino Ribeiro" <raquino@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Rafik Thanks for this material. Very interesting resource indeed. I'm just wondering here: Ethnicity, Religion, Accessibility Did not see these in the material. I don't remember it ever being collected at ICANN registration, for example (maybe special assistance only). I understand this is a subgroup with time and resources limited but if there are any resources about this, maybe they would be interesting to analyse too? Thanks On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

please find attached this document shared by Development and Public Responsibility Department (DPRD) including several diversity data they collected. I think we can count on DPRD as resource for our subgroup.

Best,

Rafik

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hi Renata, as you can see in my previous reply, I only commented about ethnicity and religious data. accessibility is a different matter and there is probably some data e.g. I think is a field in meeting registration page about special assistance request. Best, Rafik 2016-12-20 11:33 GMT+09:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino@gmail.com>:

Hi Rafik

Thanks again for the quick reply.

Interesting, I was just thinking about legal aspects but, in my mind, accessibility came first. Preventing others from having access to ICANN meetings or data due to lack of awareness towards special assistance or adaptative tech could incur in liability and be addressed in accountability procedures. I dug up from the Cross Community Committee in Accessibility this survey which brings also some questions https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/53781699/ Acccessibility%20responses%20FINAL%20summary%20PPT.pptx? version=1&modificationDate=1436900243000&api=v2

But religion, ethnicity, no data indeed.

Best,

Renata

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 11:19 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hi Renata.

I cannot respond with authority about that but I dont recall ICANN or any group asking for ethnicity and religion as data. I think they are sensitive information and may be controversial in particular for the latter. Most of information we found are via self-reporting or for selection. I wonder about the legal aspects of collecting data beyond demographics ones , including data protection etc .

Best,

Rafik

On Dec 20, 2016 10:57 AM, "Renata Aquino Ribeiro" <raquino@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Rafik

Thanks for this material. Very interesting resource indeed.

I'm just wondering here: Ethnicity, Religion, Accessibility

Did not see these in the material. I don't remember it ever being collected at ICANN registration, for example (maybe special assistance only).

I understand this is a subgroup with time and resources limited but if there are any resources about this, maybe they would be interesting to analyse too?

Thanks

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hi everyone,

please find attached this document shared by Development and Public Responsibility Department (DPRD) including several diversity data they collected. I think we can count on DPRD as resource for our subgroup.

Best,

Rafik

_______________________________________________ Ws2-diversity mailing list Ws2-diversity@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-diversity

Thanks Ergys, great work, I think this really demonstrates that a recommendation from this group to maintain and track such data is realistic and accessible. Best Mathieu De : Ergys Ramaj [mailto:ergys.ramaj@icann.org] Envoyé : mardi 20 décembre 2016 14:07 À : Mathieu Weill Cc : Rafik Dammak; ws2-diversity@icann.org; MSSI Secretariat Objet : Re: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN Dear Mathieu, The SO/AC leadership data includes: ASO Council Chair and Vice Chairs, Address Council Members, ccNSO Council Chairs and Vice Chairs, ccNSO Council Members, GNSO Council Chair and Vice Chairs, GNSO Council Members, ALAC Leadership Team, ALAC Members, GAC Leadership Team, RSSAC Chairs, SSAC Chair and Vice Chair, AFRALO Leadership, APRALO Leadership, EURALO Leadership, LACRALO Leadership, NARALO Leadership, Registries Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Registrars Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Commercial Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Non- Commercial Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Business Constituency Executive Committee, Intellectual Property Constituency Executive Committee, Internet Service Providers and Connectivity Providers Constituency Executive Committees, Non-Commercial Users Constituency Executive Committee, and Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency Executive Committee. More generally and to the data collection method question you pose, different groups within ICANN organization collect data related to their function. E.g. the meetings team on ICANN meetings, Human Resources on personnel, etc. To get a full picture, we'd reached out to the respective teams and collated the information. As noted on the deck, data points are identified using the most appropriate resources available, which are often based on self-reporting or selection. 
 The question on having additional data that includes diversity markers other than gender and region is a bit trickier as different groups capture different elements. Happy to discuss and update the slides with an appendix that includes a breakdown for SO/AC leadership and any other group, as appropriate. Best, Ergys On Dec 20, 2016, at 5:52 AM, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> wrote: Thank you Rafik, It is very encouraging to see this new publication from ICANN. Indeed it would be great to invite the DPRD to a call to fully understand the figures, how they were collected and whether there is room for further breakdowns. I would be interested, for instance, to understand the definition used for “ICANN leadership”. Best Mathieu De : ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org] De la part de Rafik Dammak Envoyé : mardi 20 décembre 2016 02:22 À : ws2-diversity@icann.org Cc : MSSI Secretariat Objet : [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN Hi everyone, please find attached this document shared by Development and Public Responsibility Department (DPRD) including several diversity data they collected. I think we can count on DPRD as resource for our subgroup. Best, Rafik _______________________________________________ Ws2-diversity mailing list Ws2-diversity@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-diversity

Interesting data, thanks! Jorge Von: ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Pam Little Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Dezember 2016 23:02 An: 'Mathieu Weill' <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr>; ws2-diversity@icann.org Cc: 'MSSI Secretariat' <mssi-secretariat@icann.org> Betreff: Re: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN While these additional data points are welcome, I would like to bring to this group’s attention the Final Report of the recent GSNO Review (https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2015-09-15-en). Specifically, the reports: · cautions that geographic diversity is not a proxy for cultural diversity (pp 11 and 114). · questions whether, from a cultural perspective, it is appropriate to include Australia and New Zealand as part of the Asia Pacific region (pp 115-116). The report points out, as at July 2013, people from Asia made up 48% of total Internet users but only 4% of GNSO Council positions came from Asia ( p.116). Page 114 9.4.1 Geographic Diversity It is not possible to be definitive about the geographic diversity of the membership of the GNSO, firstly because ICANN does not collect comprehensive statistics on geographic (or gender and cultural) diversity of its community. It does collect geographic diversity information, but we consider the criterion to be flawed, since people can state their place of residence regardless of their ethnicity or actual affinity (for example, an Australian national living in Nigeria could choose to be recorded as a member from Africa). Secondly, Constituency and SG membership consists in many cases of organisations and/or individuals. Organisations may themselves be based in one region but consist of individuals from many. We believe, as explained further below, that CANN’s geographic regions are a poor measure of cultural or ethnic diversity. Pages 115 & 116 9.4.2 Cultural Diversity … Under ICANN’s current definition, Asia Pacific includes Australia and New Zealand which are in general culturally more similar to North America and parts of Europe than to most Asian cultures. … It is my understanding that ICANN’s current geographical regions are inconsistent with international norms. However, the ICANN Geographic Regions Review Working Group (see Final Report at http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-22jun13-en.htm) has not proposed any change to regional designation. As former ICANN CEO, Dr. Paul Twomey laments (http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/wp3/2015-July/000015.html): “There was no real discussion of the global strategic challenges facing ICANN in a world where Internet activity and power is shifting dramatically away from the hubs of the late 1990s which underlie ICANN's present structures.” From: ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mathieu Weill Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:27 AM To: Ergys Ramaj Cc: MSSI Secretariat; ws2-diversity@icann.org<mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN Thanks Ergys, great work, I think this really demonstrates that a recommendation from this group to maintain and track such data is realistic and accessible. Best Mathieu De : Ergys Ramaj [mailto:ergys.ramaj@icann.org] Envoyé : mardi 20 décembre 2016 14:07 À : Mathieu Weill Cc : Rafik Dammak; ws2-diversity@icann.org<mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org>; MSSI Secretariat Objet : Re: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN Dear Mathieu, The SO/AC leadership data includes: ASO Council Chair and Vice Chairs, Address Council Members, ccNSO Council Chairs and Vice Chairs, ccNSO Council Members, GNSO Council Chair and Vice Chairs, GNSO Council Members, ALAC Leadership Team, ALAC Members, GAC Leadership Team, RSSAC Chairs, SSAC Chair and Vice Chair, AFRALO Leadership, APRALO Leadership, EURALO Leadership, LACRALO Leadership, NARALO Leadership, Registries Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Registrars Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Commercial Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Non- Commercial Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Business Constituency Executive Committee, Intellectual Property Constituency Executive Committee, Internet Service Providers and Connectivity Providers Constituency Executive Committees, Non-Commercial Users Constituency Executive Committee, and Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency Executive Committee. More generally and to the data collection method question you pose, different groups within ICANN organization collect data related to their function. E.g. the meetings team on ICANN meetings, Human Resources on personnel, etc. To get a full picture, we'd reached out to the respective teams and collated the information. As noted on the deck, data points are identified using the most appropriate resources available, which are often based on self-reporting or selection. 
 The question on having additional data that includes diversity markers other than gender and region is a bit trickier as different groups capture different elements. Happy to discuss and update the slides with an appendix that includes a breakdown for SO/AC leadership and any other group, as appropriate. Best, Ergys On Dec 20, 2016, at 5:52 AM, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr<mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr>> wrote: Thank you Rafik, It is very encouraging to see this new publication from ICANN. Indeed it would be great to invite the DPRD to a call to fully understand the figures, how they were collected and whether there is room for further breakdowns. I would be interested, for instance, to understand the definition used for “ICANN leadership”. Best Mathieu De : ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org] De la part de Rafik Dammak Envoyé : mardi 20 décembre 2016 02:22 À : ws2-diversity@icann.org<mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org> Cc : MSSI Secretariat Objet : [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN Hi everyone, please find attached this document shared by Development and Public Responsibility Department (DPRD) including several diversity data they collected. I think we can count on DPRD as resource for our subgroup. Best, Rafik _______________________________________________ Ws2-diversity mailing list Ws2-diversity@icann.org<mailto:Ws2-diversity@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-diversity

Hi Chair, I was left on an indefinite mute during the meeting session. While the idea of inviting the ICANN Staff sounds great, can we have a detailed map and infographics of indices across nationality, sex, language, religion, continent and age, please. It helps to define our diverse ICANN structure is at the moment. Thanks. -Akinbo. On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:57 AM, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> wrote:

Hi all,

I fully support the points raised by Pam. This highlights the risks associated with the creation of categories, which are not always a good proxy to some aspects of diversity. Since it is practically impossible to rely on a very large number of similar definitions for categories, one way to mitigate this risk is to provide the datasets in an “Open Data”( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_data) format.

Best

Mathieu

*De :* Pam Little [mailto:pam.little@zodiac-corp.com] *Envoyé :* mardi 20 décembre 2016 23:02 *À :* 'Mathieu Weill'; ws2-diversity@icann.org *Cc :* 'MSSI Secretariat'; 'Ergys Ramaj' *Objet :* RE: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN

While these additional data points are welcome, I would like to bring to this group’s attention the Final Report of the recent GSNO Review ( https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2015-09-15-en).

Specifically, the reports:

· cautions that geographic diversity is not a proxy for cultural diversity (pp 11 and 114).

· questions whether, from a cultural perspective, it is appropriate to include Australia and New Zealand as part of the Asia Pacific region (pp 115-116).

The report points out, as at July 2013, people from Asia made up 48% of total Internet users but only 4% of GNSO Council positions came from Asia ( p.116).

Page 114

9.4.1

Geographic Diversity

It is not possible to be definitive about the geographic diversity of the membership of the GNSO, firstly because ICANN does not collect comprehensive statistics on geographic (or gender and cultural) diversity of its community. It does collect geographic diversity information, but we consider the criterion to be flawed, since people can state their place of residence regardless of their ethnicity or actual affinity (for example, an Australian national living in Nigeria could choose to be recorded as a member from Africa). Secondly, Constituency and SG membership consists in many cases of organisations and/or individuals. Organisations may themselves be based in one region but consist of individuals from many. We believe, as explained further below, that CANN’s geographic regions are a poor measure of cultural or ethnic diversity.

Pages 115 & 116

9.4.2

Cultural Diversity

…

Under ICANN’s current definition, Asia Pacific includes Australia and New Zealand which are in general culturally more similar to North America and parts of Europe than to most Asian cultures. …

It is my understanding that ICANN’s current geographical regions are inconsistent with international norms. However, the ICANN Geographic Regions Review Working Group (see Final Report at http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-22jun13-en.htm) has not proposed any change to regional designation. As former ICANN CEO, Dr. Paul Twomey laments (http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/wp3/2015-July/ 000015.html):

“There was no real discussion of the global strategic challenges facing ICANN in a world where Internet activity and power is shifting dramatically away from the hubs of the late 1990s which underlie ICANN's present structures.”

*From:* ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@ icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Mathieu Weill *Sent:* Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:27 AM *To:* Ergys Ramaj *Cc:* MSSI Secretariat; ws2-diversity@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN

Thanks Ergys, great work, I think this really demonstrates that a recommendation from this group to maintain and track such data is realistic and accessible.

Best

Mathieu

*De :* Ergys Ramaj [mailto:ergys.ramaj@icann.org <ergys.ramaj@icann.org>] *Envoyé :* mardi 20 décembre 2016 14:07 *À :* Mathieu Weill *Cc :* Rafik Dammak; ws2-diversity@icann.org; MSSI Secretariat *Objet :* Re: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN

Dear Mathieu,

The SO/AC leadership data includes:

ASO Council Chair and Vice Chairs, Address Council Members, ccNSO Council Chairs and Vice Chairs, ccNSO Council Members, GNSO Council Chair and Vice Chairs, GNSO Council Members, ALAC Leadership Team, ALAC Members, GAC Leadership Team, RSSAC Chairs, SSAC Chair and Vice Chair, AFRALO Leadership, APRALO Leadership, EURALO Leadership, LACRALO Leadership, NARALO Leadership, Registries Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Registrars Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Commercial Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Non- Commercial Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Business Constituency Executive Committee, Intellectual Property Constituency Executive Committee, Internet Service Providers and Connectivity Providers Constituency Executive Committees, Non-Commercial Users Constituency Executive Committee, and Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency Executive Committee.

More generally and to the data collection method question you pose, different groups within ICANN organization collect data related to their function. E.g. the meetings team on ICANN meetings, Human Resources on personnel, etc.

To get a full picture, we'd reached out to the respective teams and collated the information. As noted on the deck, data points are identified using the most appropriate resources available, which are often based on self-reporting or selection.

The question on having additional data that includes diversity markers other than gender and region is a bit trickier as different groups capture different elements.

Happy to discuss and update the slides with an appendix that includes a breakdown for SO/AC leadership and any other group, as appropriate.

Best,

Ergys

On Dec 20, 2016, at 5:52 AM, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> wrote:

Thank you Rafik,

It is very encouraging to see this new publication from ICANN. Indeed it would be great to invite the DPRD to a call to fully understand the figures, how they were collected and whether there is room for further breakdowns.

I would be interested, for instance, to understand the definition used for “ICANN leadership”.

Best

Mathieu

*De :* ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@ icann.org <ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org>] *De la part de* Rafik Dammak *Envoyé :* mardi 20 décembre 2016 02:22 *À :* ws2-diversity@icann.org *Cc :* MSSI Secretariat *Objet :* [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN

Hi everyone,

please find attached this document shared by Development and Public Responsibility Department (DPRD) including several diversity data they collected.

I think we can count on DPRD as resource for our subgroup.

Best,

Rafik

_______________________________________________ Ws2-diversity mailing list Ws2-diversity@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-diversity

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Hi A few observations about our last meeting and the regional perspective. When considering diversity, regional groupings may not be the safest path for representation of members. Indeed ICANN has a division in regions which has its own issues and resulted from a collective work in a WG. But if, for accountability purposes, one wants to map if members see ICANN as somewhere where there is geographical/regional balance, the current division may still not be enough since a member can not find her/himself adequately represented either by their country or region. Same happens, for instance, with ISOC chapters which are very atomized in some regions and in others aren't. Another issue is those groups are not represented by geopolitical borders such as refugees, rural workers etc. In the last meeting the idea of streamlining the data collection gained some support. Less open-ended questions and more concrete data, like a survey could bring interesting results. A simple question: "do you feel your region is well represented in ICANN?" can result in a variation of answers which would be very interesting. I welcome the efforts of the staff who has collected data before to send us data and probably talk more about the process of data collection. Also, data on special assistance requests could be very enlightening. I understand there are many ideas popping and a need to have a say but I guess now maybe we should really focus on the questionnaire rebuild for next steps. Until when can the questionnaire and the strawman receive comments? Apologies if this was posted and I missed it. Thank you On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Adebunmi AKINBO <akinbo.adebunmi@gmail.com

wrote:

Hi Chair, I was left on an indefinite mute during the meeting session. While the idea of inviting the ICANN Staff sounds great, can we have a detailed map and infographics of indices across nationality, sex, language, religion, continent and age, please.

It helps to define our diverse ICANN structure is at the moment.

Thanks. -Akinbo.

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:57 AM, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> wrote:

...

Hi all,

I fully support the points raised by Pam. This highlights the risks associated with the creation of categories, which are not always a good proxy to some aspects of diversity. Since it is practically impossible to rely on a very large number of similar definitions for categories, one way to mitigate this risk is to provide the datasets in an “Open Data”( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_data) format.

Best

Mathieu

*De :* Pam Little [mailto:pam.little@zodiac-corp.com] *Envoyé :* mardi 20 décembre 2016 23:02 *À :* 'Mathieu Weill'; ws2-diversity@icann.org *Cc :* 'MSSI Secretariat'; 'Ergys Ramaj' *Objet :* RE: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN

While these additional data points are welcome, I would like to bring to this group’s attention the Final Report of the recent GSNO Review ( https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2015-09-15-en).

Specifically, the reports:

· cautions that geographic diversity is not a proxy for cultural diversity (pp 11 and 114).

· questions whether, from a cultural perspective, it is appropriate to include Australia and New Zealand as part of the Asia Pacific region (pp 115-116).

The report points out, as at July 2013, people from Asia made up 48% of total Internet users but only 4% of GNSO Council positions came from Asia ( p.116).

Page 114

9.4.1

Geographic Diversity

It is not possible to be definitive about the geographic diversity of the membership of the GNSO, firstly because ICANN does not collect comprehensive statistics on geographic (or gender and cultural) diversity of its community. It does collect geographic diversity information, but we consider the criterion to be flawed, since people can state their place of residence regardless of their ethnicity or actual affinity (for example, an Australian national living in Nigeria could choose to be recorded as a member from Africa). Secondly, Constituency and SG membership consists in many cases of organisations and/or individuals. Organisations may themselves be based in one region but consist of individuals from many. We believe, as explained further below, that CANN’s geographic regions are a poor measure of cultural or ethnic diversity.

Pages 115 & 116

9.4.2

Cultural Diversity

…

Under ICANN’s current definition, Asia Pacific includes Australia and New Zealand which are in general culturally more similar to North America and parts of Europe than to most Asian cultures. …

It is my understanding that ICANN’s current geographical regions are inconsistent with international norms. However, the ICANN Geographic Regions Review Working Group (see Final Report at http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-22jun13-en.htm) has not proposed any change to regional designation. As former ICANN CEO, Dr. Paul Twomey laments (http://mm.icann.org/pipermail /wp3/2015-July/000015.html):

“There was no real discussion of the global strategic challenges facing ICANN in a world where Internet activity and power is shifting dramatically away from the hubs of the late 1990s which underlie ICANN's present structures.”

*From:* ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@ icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Mathieu Weill *Sent:* Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:27 AM *To:* Ergys Ramaj *Cc:* MSSI Secretariat; ws2-diversity@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN

Thanks Ergys, great work, I think this really demonstrates that a recommendation from this group to maintain and track such data is realistic and accessible.

Best

Mathieu

*De :* Ergys Ramaj [mailto:ergys.ramaj@icann.org <ergys.ramaj@icann.org>]

*Envoyé :* mardi 20 décembre 2016 14:07 *À :* Mathieu Weill *Cc :* Rafik Dammak; ws2-diversity@icann.org; MSSI Secretariat *Objet :* Re: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN

Dear Mathieu,

The SO/AC leadership data includes:

ASO Council Chair and Vice Chairs, Address Council Members, ccNSO Council Chairs and Vice Chairs, ccNSO Council Members, GNSO Council Chair and Vice Chairs, GNSO Council Members, ALAC Leadership Team, ALAC Members, GAC Leadership Team, RSSAC Chairs, SSAC Chair and Vice Chair, AFRALO Leadership, APRALO Leadership, EURALO Leadership, LACRALO Leadership, NARALO Leadership, Registries Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Registrars Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Commercial Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Non- Commercial Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Business Constituency Executive Committee, Intellectual Property Constituency Executive Committee, Internet Service Providers and Connectivity Providers Constituency Executive Committees, Non-Commercial Users Constituency Executive Committee, and Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency Executive Committee.

More generally and to the data collection method question you pose, different groups within ICANN organization collect data related to their function. E.g. the meetings team on ICANN meetings, Human Resources on personnel, etc.

To get a full picture, we'd reached out to the respective teams and collated the information. As noted on the deck, data points are identified using the most appropriate resources available, which are often based on self-reporting or selection.

The question on having additional data that includes diversity markers other than gender and region is a bit trickier as different groups capture different elements.

Happy to discuss and update the slides with an appendix that includes a breakdown for SO/AC leadership and any other group, as appropriate.

Best,

Ergys

On Dec 20, 2016, at 5:52 AM, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> wrote:

Thank you Rafik,

It is very encouraging to see this new publication from ICANN. Indeed it would be great to invite the DPRD to a call to fully understand the figures, how they were collected and whether there is room for further breakdowns.

I would be interested, for instance, to understand the definition used for “ICANN leadership”.

Best

Mathieu

*De :* ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@ icann.org <ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org>] *De la part de* Rafik Dammak *Envoyé :* mardi 20 décembre 2016 02:22 *À :* ws2-diversity@icann.org *Cc :* MSSI Secretariat *Objet :* [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN

Hi everyone,

please find attached this document shared by Development and Public Responsibility Department (DPRD) including several diversity data they collected.

I think we can count on DPRD as resource for our subgroup.

Best,

Rafik

_______________________________________________ Ws2-diversity mailing list Ws2-diversity@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-diversity

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Thanks, Rafik. That sounds good. Would be happy to participate in the discussion. I'm copying Chris Gift and Josh Baulch so that they're also in the loop. Looking forward to receiving the invite for the next call. Happy holidays and talk soon. Best, Ergys On Dec 20, 2016, at 11:42 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Ergys, Mathieu, as discussed in yesterday call, one idea to invite you for a subgroup confcall, covering this topic of data collection and the current practices. we may also invite other ICANN staff such meeting team, Chris Gift for IT services etc. lets schedule this for the first call next month. Best, Rafik 2016-12-21 2:27 GMT+09:00 Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr<mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr>>: Thanks Ergys, great work, I think this really demonstrates that a recommendation from this group to maintain and track such data is realistic and accessible. Best Mathieu De : Ergys Ramaj [mailto:ergys.ramaj@icann.org<mailto:ergys.ramaj@icann.org>] Envoy? : mardi 20 d?cembre 2016 14:07 ? : Mathieu Weill Cc : Rafik Dammak; ws2-diversity@icann.org<mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org>; MSSI Secretariat Objet : Re: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN Dear Mathieu, The SO/AC leadership data includes: ASO Council Chair and Vice Chairs, Address Council Members, ccNSO Council Chairs and Vice Chairs, ccNSO Council Members, GNSO Council Chair and Vice Chairs, GNSO Council Members, ALAC Leadership Team, ALAC Members, GAC Leadership Team, RSSAC Chairs, SSAC Chair and Vice Chair, AFRALO Leadership, APRALO Leadership, EURALO Leadership, LACRALO Leadership, NARALO Leadership, Registries Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Registrars Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Commercial Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Non- Commercial Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Business Constituency Executive Committee, Intellectual Property Constituency Executive Committee, Internet Service Providers and Connectivity Providers Constituency Executive Committees, Non-Commercial Users Constituency Executive Committee, and Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency Executive Committee. More generally and to the data collection method question you pose, different groups within ICANN organization collect data related to their function. E.g. the meetings team on ICANN meetings, Human Resources on personnel, etc. To get a full picture, we'd reached out to the respective teams and collated the information. As noted on the deck, data points are identified using the most appropriate resources available, which are often based on self-reporting or selection. ? The question on having additional data that includes diversity markers other than gender and region is a bit trickier as different groups capture different elements. Happy to discuss and update the slides with an appendix that includes a breakdown for SO/AC leadership and any other group, as appropriate. Best, Ergys On Dec 20, 2016, at 5:52 AM, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr<mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr>> wrote: Thank you Rafik, It is very encouraging to see this new publication from ICANN. Indeed it would be great to invite the DPRD to a call to fully understand the figures, how they were collected and whether there is room for further breakdowns. I would be interested, for instance, to understand the definition used for "ICANN leadership". Best Mathieu De : ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org] De la part de Rafik Dammak Envoy? : mardi 20 d?cembre 2016 02:22 ? : ws2-diversity@icann.org<mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org> Cc : MSSI Secretariat Objet : [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN Hi everyone, please find attached this document shared by Development and Public Responsibility Department (DPRD) including several diversity data they collected. I think we can count on DPRD as resource for our subgroup. Best, Rafik _______________________________________________ Ws2-diversity mailing list Ws2-diversity@icann.org<mailto:Ws2-diversity@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-diversity