Thanks, Rafik. That sounds good. Would be happy to participate in the discussion. I'm copying Chris Gift and Josh Baulch so that they're also in the loop. Looking forward to receiving the invite for the next call. Happy holidays and talk soon. Best, Ergys On Dec 20, 2016, at 11:42 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Ergys, Mathieu, as discussed in yesterday call, one idea to invite you for a subgroup confcall, covering this topic of data collection and the current practices. we may also invite other ICANN staff such meeting team, Chris Gift for IT services etc. lets schedule this for the first call next month. Best, Rafik 2016-12-21 2:27 GMT+09:00 Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr<mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr>>: Thanks Ergys, great work, I think this really demonstrates that a recommendation from this group to maintain and track such data is realistic and accessible. Best Mathieu De : Ergys Ramaj [mailto:ergys.ramaj@icann.org<mailto:ergys.ramaj@icann.org>] Envoy? : mardi 20 d?cembre 2016 14:07 ? : Mathieu Weill Cc : Rafik Dammak; ws2-diversity@icann.org<mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org>; MSSI Secretariat Objet : Re: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN Dear Mathieu, The SO/AC leadership data includes: ASO Council Chair and Vice Chairs, Address Council Members, ccNSO Council Chairs and Vice Chairs, ccNSO Council Members, GNSO Council Chair and Vice Chairs, GNSO Council Members, ALAC Leadership Team, ALAC Members, GAC Leadership Team, RSSAC Chairs, SSAC Chair and Vice Chair, AFRALO Leadership, APRALO Leadership, EURALO Leadership, LACRALO Leadership, NARALO Leadership, Registries Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Registrars Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Commercial Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Non- Commercial Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Business Constituency Executive Committee, Intellectual Property Constituency Executive Committee, Internet Service Providers and Connectivity Providers Constituency Executive Committees, Non-Commercial Users Constituency Executive Committee, and Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency Executive Committee. More generally and to the data collection method question you pose, different groups within ICANN organization collect data related to their function. E.g. the meetings team on ICANN meetings, Human Resources on personnel, etc. To get a full picture, we'd reached out to the respective teams and collated the information. As noted on the deck, data points are identified using the most appropriate resources available, which are often based on self-reporting or selection. ? The question on having additional data that includes diversity markers other than gender and region is a bit trickier as different groups capture different elements. Happy to discuss and update the slides with an appendix that includes a breakdown for SO/AC leadership and any other group, as appropriate. Best, Ergys On Dec 20, 2016, at 5:52 AM, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr<mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr>> wrote: Thank you Rafik, It is very encouraging to see this new publication from ICANN. Indeed it would be great to invite the DPRD to a call to fully understand the figures, how they were collected and whether there is room for further breakdowns. I would be interested, for instance, to understand the definition used for "ICANN leadership". Best Mathieu De : ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org] De la part de Rafik Dammak Envoy? : mardi 20 d?cembre 2016 02:22 ? : ws2-diversity@icann.org<mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org> Cc : MSSI Secretariat Objet : [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN Hi everyone, please find attached this document shared by Development and Public Responsibility Department (DPRD) including several diversity data they collected. I think we can count on DPRD as resource for our subgroup. Best, Rafik _______________________________________________ Ws2-diversity mailing list Ws2-diversity@icann.org<mailto:Ws2-diversity@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-diversity