Many thanks, Niels. This all makes sense to me. I look forward to the call but will be a little late due to a client meeting. Anne -----Original Message----- From: Niels ten Oever [mailto:lists@nielstenoever.net] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 5:25 PM To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne; ws2-hr@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ws2-hr] Proposed agenda meeting February 14 - 19:00 UTC Hi Anne, The drafting team is only done once there is a consensus, this mostly takes time and a dialectical process with the subgroup. Until there is a consensus the working group document is a rolling working document. The drafting group Monday 19:00 UTC deadline is there so we have something to present to the subgroup so they also have time to consider it. And we are indeed not done, and am looking forward to the discussions on the call as well as in Copenhagen. Best, Niels On 02/14/2017 12:46 AM, Aikman-Scalese, Anne wrote:
Thank you Niels. Attached please see my redline which I believe reflects some of the discussion that may not be reflected in your draft. Under the circumstances, I don't think the Monday deadline you site below should be a hard deadline - primarily because the smaller group had not finished its work. Certainly this area may merit much deeper discussion on our agenda for the face-to-face meeting in Copenhagen. Anne
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-----Original Message----- From: Niels ten Oever [mailto:lists@nielstenoever.net] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 4:29 PM To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne; ws2-hr@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ws2-hr] Proposed agenda meeting February 14 - 19:00 UTC
Dear Anne,
I accepted all your comments, integrated all the comments of the drafting team, and waited until our weekly deadline Monday 19:00 UTC for comments.
There are no dramatic changes, or things in the text that have not been discussed before.
Since the subgroup did not manage to discuss the whole document last week, I think it is beneficial for the group to at least review the whole document as see how issues that were brought up have been addressed.
This week there is indeed the meeting in Iceland, but the meeting in Copenhagen is also coming up fast, which means that we do not have an awful lot of time to complete our work, so think it is important that we use our time effectively.
And since we did not get apologies from all members of the drafting team I think we should go ahead.
Best,
Niels
On 02/14/2017 12:14 AM, Aikman-Scalese, Anne wrote:
Thanks Niels. When you sent your "hard broom" version in which you noted you were expecting a lot of "push back", did you receive any "push back"? I ask because as far as I know, three members of the smaller group may have been en route to Iceland at the time. Thank you, Anne
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-----Original Message----- From: Niels ten Oever [mailto:lists@nielstenoever.net] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 4:02 PM To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne; ws2-hr@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ws2-hr] Proposed agenda meeting February 14 - 19:00 UTC
Dear Anne,
On 02/13/2017 11:52 PM, Aikman-Scalese, Anne wrote:
Niels, Given that at least three members of the drafting group are tied up in meetings of the Non-Contracted Parties House in Iceland and given that Jorge, who is also on the drafting team, is out of the office, I believe it would be best to postpone this meeting until next week.
I did not get confirmation from all drafting team members in Iceland that they will not be able to attend this call.
I also note that there was much discussion among that small group that is not reflected in this draft.
To the best of my abilities I have resolved all issues and included all of the changes. Furthermore I think it is important to also get input from the group.
If there are discussions not reflected in the document, could you perhaps point them out here?
I think it is also clearly denoted that the document is a work in progrss and not a consensus document of the drafting team.
I think it would be very helpful to the SW2 HR team to have these active participants on any call discussing this document.
I do agree it would be helpful. And I hope that members of the drafting team will be present on the call.
Best,
Niels
Thank you, Anne
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Dear all,
I hope this email finds you well. Please find underneath and attached the proposed agenda.
1. Administrivia Roll call, absentees, SoIs, etc 2. Discussion of work-in-progress considerations document by drafting team 3. AOB
Please find also attached the current version of the work-in-progress considerations document, which at this moment is a rough sketch for discussion in the drafting group.
It can also be found here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KJfmglI5wBib7T5hgIMMysO7x6J3Oi5N Y
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I'm greatly looking forward to talk to you all tomorrow.
Best,
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