Respectfully, it seems that not only what the SSAC is suggesting is unworkable for lots of reasons, the recommendation itself also seems to be outside of the SSAC's remit. From their website: "The Security and Stability Advisory Committee advises the ICANN community and Board on matters relating to the security and integrity of the Internet's naming and address allocation systems. This includes operational matters (e.g., matters pertaining to the correct and reliable operation of the root name system), administrative matters (e.g., matters pertaining to address allocation and Internet number assignment), and registration matters (e.g., matters pertaining to registry and registrar services such as WHOIS). SSAC engages in ongoing threat assessment and risk analysis of the Internet naming and address allocation services to assess where the principal threats to stability and security lie, and advises the ICANN community accordingly." We really need the SSAC to be the backstop on technical "don't break the Internet" issues. I'm sorry to see that they have allowed themselves to be dragged into this human rights discussion, which while important, is not going to "break the Internet" one way or another. The next time they tell us that we really shouldn't do something, just a little bit of the usual reverent deference, at least for me, will be missing. Best, Paul McGrady -----Original Message----- From: ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Niels ten Oever Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 4:12 PM To: Paul Twomey <paul.twomey@argopacific.com> Cc: ws2-hr@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ws2-hr] Fwd: Input from SSAC to the WG on Human Rights Hi Paul, As far as I know ICANN does not have contracts with ccTLDs, right? In any case, I would like to invite everyone to a session of the CCWP HR * coming Wednesday March 15 at 17:00 (CEST) ** where both SSAC and an expert on Human Rights Impact Assessment from the Danish Institute for Human Rights will be present, so that might be an interesting venue to discuss. Best, Niels * Cross Community Working Party on ICANNs Corporate and Social Responsibility to Respect Human Right ** https://schedule.icann.org/event/9nmu/gnso-ncsg-icann-human-rights On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:43:14AM -0400, Paul Twomey wrote:
Yes Neil. But think of how does ICANN do a Human Rights Impact Assessment on an agreement with a new ccTLD operator in a non-democratic (or even democratic) country? ICANN is not the UN Human Rights Council. It would be explosive.
On 3/13/17 10:38 AM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
Hi Paul,
Thanks for your response. Reply inline:
On 03/13/2017 03:32 PM, Paul Twomey wrote:
Dear Niels
I note the SSAC report. I worry again that its recommendation language calling for a Human Rights Impact Assessment,
Microsoft Word - SAC0XX_SSAC_Input_to_CCWG-Acc_WS2_Human_Rights_v1.1-CLEAN.docx
"A Human Rights Impact Assessment4 is a process for systematically identifying, predicting and responding to the potential human rights impacts of business operations, policies, or agreements."
has the possible consequence of inadvertantly trying to impose human rights tests on agreements in the IANA function, especially as they may apply to agreements (written or explicit) with ccTLD operators. As I have said consistently in this process, this could be extremely damaging on the operations and global acceptance of the IANA function. Hence my concern about certain sections of the Ruggie Principles being applied to ICANN - ICANN does not have the luxury of choosing which parts of the world it may or may not serve.
First and foremost, the first right of humans we need to protect is having access to an Internet that is global and operates 7x24.
Isn't that exactly what the SSAC letter says in the first paragraph (as well as the Core Value, and the Framework of Interpretation) ?
Best,
Niels
Best
Paul
On 3/13/17 9:12 AM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
Dear all,
Please find attached the letter we received from SSAC.
All the best,
Niels
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Input from SSAC to the WG on Human Rights Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 03:12:11 +0100 From: Patrik Fältström <paf@netnod.se> To: Niels ten Oever <niels@article19.org> CC: SSAC <ssac@icann.org>, Human Rights <cc-humanrights@icann.org>
Niels,
As chair of the Security and Stability Advisory Committee, one of the chartering organizations of the CCWG on Accountability, we would like to submit the attached comments as fruit for thought for the discussions.
Best,
Patrik Fältström Chair of the SSAC
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