Welcome to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup!
Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction, I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you. In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups). Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls: 1. *Best time(s) of day for you*. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a *day and time *poll only, for the ongoing work of this group*. Please ignore the specific dates next week.* (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.) LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr 2. *Rotation vs. fixed time*. LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b Please respond by *23:59 UTC* on *Thursday, August 11*, so that we can get our process underway. Best regards, Greg Shatan
I am sorry . I have all other business expect 20,00 hours. 19, 00 was taken by other groups It is incumbent to you to look at the master Plan and avoid any overlapping During the comming months I will only be available at 20,00 or 21.30 UTC, UNLESS PEOPLE WISH TO EXCLUDE ME Kavouss 2016-08-09 0:21 GMT+02:00 Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com>:
Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction,
I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you.
In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups).
Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls:
1. *Best time(s) of day for you*. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a *day and time *poll only, for the ongoing work of this group*. Please ignore the specific dates next week.* (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.)
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr
2. *Rotation vs. fixed time*.
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b
Please respond by *23:59 UTC* on *Thursday, August 11*, so that we can get our process underway.
Best regards,
Greg Shatan
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*REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU.* On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction,
I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you.
In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups).
Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls:
1. *Best time(s) of day for you*. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a *day and time *poll only, for the ongoing work of this group*. Please ignore the specific dates next week.* (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.)
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr
2. *Rotation vs. fixed time*.
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b
Please respond by *23:59 UTC* on *Thursday, August 11*, so that we can get our process underway.
Best regards,
Greg Shatan
All, I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers." As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member." I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...) I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all. Please let me know if I'm missing something. Greg On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
*REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU.*
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction,
I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you.
In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups).
Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls:
1. *Best time(s) of day for you*. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a *day and time *poll only, for the ongoing work of this group*. Please ignore the specific dates next week.* (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.)
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr
2. *Rotation vs. fixed time*.
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b
Please respond by *23:59 UTC* on *Thursday, August 11*, so that we can get our process underway.
Best regards,
Greg Shatan
I support your view Grec Kavouss 2016-08-11 22:49 GMT+02:00 Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com>:
All,
I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers."
As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member."
I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...)
I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all.
Please let me know if I'm missing something.
Greg
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
*REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU.*
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction,
I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you.
In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups).
Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls:
1. *Best time(s) of day for you*. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a *day and time *poll only, for the ongoing work of this group*. Please ignore the specific dates next week.* (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.)
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr
2. *Rotation vs. fixed time*.
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b
Please respond by *23:59 UTC* on *Thursday, August 11*, so that we can get our process underway.
Best regards,
Greg Shatan
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I’m afraid I don’t have the same understanding of the observers’ involvement. Members and observers attend the calls and participate in the discussion. The only difference is that the observers don’t participate in the decision making. I know that the co-chairs are on all lists, and I ask them to confirm or infirm. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Le 11 août 2016 à 21:55, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> a écrit :
I support your view Grec Kavouss
2016-08-11 22:49 GMT+02:00 Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>>: All,
I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers."
As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member."
I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...)
I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all.
Please let me know if I'm missing something.
Greg
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> wrote: REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU.
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction, I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you. In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups). Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls: 1. Best time(s) of day for you. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a day and time poll only, for the ongoing work of this group. Please ignore the specific dates next week. (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.) LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr <http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr> 2. Rotation vs. fixed time. LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b <http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b> Please respond by 23:59 UTC on Thursday, August 11, so that we can get our process underway. Best regards, Greg Shatan
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Tijani, You are thinking of the roles of Members and Participants in the CCWG plenary. Greg On Thursday, August 11, 2016, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:
I’m afraid I don’t have the same understanding of the observers’ involvement. Members and observers attend the calls and participate in the discussion. The only difference is that the observers don’t participate in the decision making.
I know that the co-chairs are on all lists, and I ask them to confirm or infirm.
------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------- *Tijani BEN JEMAA* Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114 ------------------------------------------------------------ -----------------
Le 11 août 2016 à 21:55, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com');>> a écrit :
I support your view Grec Kavouss
2016-08-11 22:49 GMT+02:00 Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc@gmail.com');>>:
All,
I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers."
As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member."
I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...)
I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all.
Please let me know if I'm missing something.
Greg
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc@gmail.com');>> wrote:
*REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU.*
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc@gmail.com');>> wrote:
Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction,
I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you.
In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups).
Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls:
1. *Best time(s) of day for you*. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a *day and time *poll only, for the ongoing work of this group*. Please ignore the specific dates next week.* (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.)
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr
2. *Rotation vs. fixed time*.
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b
Please respond by *23:59 UTC* on *Thursday, August 11*, so that we can get our process underway.
Best regards,
Greg Shatan
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I certainly missed some thing, but I think that the involvement of observers wasn’t clearly announced. can you please give me the link of the document where the role and rights of observers were defined??? Thank you for your help. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Le 12 août 2016 à 00:59, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> a écrit :
Tijani,
You are thinking of the roles of Members and Participants in the CCWG plenary.
Greg
On Thursday, August 11, 2016, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> wrote: I’m afraid I don’t have the same understanding of the observers’ involvement. Members and observers attend the calls and participate in the discussion. The only difference is that the observers don’t participate in the decision making.
I know that the co-chairs are on all lists, and I ask them to confirm or infirm.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Le 11 août 2016 à 21:55, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com');>> a écrit :
I support your view Grec Kavouss
2016-08-11 22:49 GMT+02:00 Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc@gmail.com');>>: All,
I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers."
As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member."
I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...)
I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all.
Please let me know if I'm missing something.
Greg
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc@gmail.com');>> wrote: REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU.
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc@gmail.com');>> wrote: Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction, I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you. In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups). Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls: 1. Best time(s) of day for you. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a day and time poll only, for the ongoing work of this group. Please ignore the specific dates next week. (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.) LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr <http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr> 2. Rotation vs. fixed time. LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b <http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b> Please respond by 23:59 UTC on Thursday, August 11, so that we can get our process underway. Best regards, Greg Shatan
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I do as well David David McAuley International Policy Manager Verisign Inc. 703-948-4154 From: ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kavouss Arasteh Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 4:55 PM To: Greg Shatan Cc: ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] Welcome to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup! I support your view Grec Kavouss 2016-08-11 22:49 GMT+02:00 Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com<mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>>: All, I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers." As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member." I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...) I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all. Please let me know if I'm missing something. Greg On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com<mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> wrote: REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU. On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com<mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction, I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you. In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups). Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls: 1. Best time(s) of day for you. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a day and time poll only, for the ongoing work of this group. Please ignore the specific dates next week. (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.) LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr 2. Rotation vs. fixed time. LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b Please respond by 23:59 UTC on Thursday, August 11, so that we can get our process underway. Best regards, Greg Shatan _______________________________________________ Ws2-jurisdiction mailing list Ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org<mailto:Ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-jurisdiction
Were observers sent an Doodle invitation? Maybe if you don’t want people to participate in polls you shouldn’t send them the poll invitation. Just a little suggestion ;-) --MM From: ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Greg Shatan Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 4:50 PM To: ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] Welcome to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup! All, I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers." As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member." I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...) I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all. Please let me know if I'm missing something. Greg On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com<mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> wrote: REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU. On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com<mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction, I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you. In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups). Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls: 1. Best time(s) of day for you. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a day and time poll only, for the ongoing work of this group. Please ignore the specific dates next week. (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.) LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr 2. Rotation vs. fixed time. LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b Please respond by 23:59 UTC on Thursday, August 11, so that we can get our process underway. Best regards, Greg Shatan
No one was sent a Doodle invitation. The links were published to the mailing list. While only Members can post to the list, everyone can read the list. So people who will not be attending calls voted on when the calls would take place. It did not occur to me to control for that behavior. You learn something new every day. Greg On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu> wrote:
Were observers sent an Doodle invitation?
Maybe if you don’t want people to participate in polls you shouldn’t send them the poll invitation.
Just a little suggestion ;-)
--MM
*From:* ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction- bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Shatan *Sent:* Thursday, August 11, 2016 4:50 PM *To:* ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] Welcome to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup!
All,
I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers."
As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member."
I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...)
I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all.
Please let me know if I'm missing something.
Greg
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
*REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU.*
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction,
I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you.
In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups).
Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls:
1. *Best time(s) of day for you*. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a *day and time * poll only, for the ongoing work of this group*. Please ignore the specific dates next week.* (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.)
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr
2. *Rotation vs. fixed time*.
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b
Please respond by *23:59 UTC* on *Thursday, August 11*, so that we can get our process underway.
Best regards,
Greg Shatan
On Friday 12 August 2016 02:19 AM, Greg Shatan wrote:
All,
I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers."
Thanks Greg. Two things; 1. How to know one's status? 2. Can one simply upgrade oneself from observer to member. best, parminder
As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member."
I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...)
I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all.
Please let me know if I'm missing something.
Greg
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> wrote:
*REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU.*
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction,
I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you.
In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups).
Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls:
1. _Best time(s) of day for you_. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a *day and time *poll only, for the ongoing work of this group*. Please ignore the specific dates next week.* (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.)
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr <http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr>
2. _Rotation vs. fixed time_.
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b <http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b>
Please respond by *23:59 UTC* on *Thursday, August 11*, so that we can get our process underway.
Best regards,
Greg Shatan
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Hi Parminder, 1. People can check their status here: https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction 2. Anyone can change their status from 'observer' to 'active participant' at any time. I believe the appropriate way would be to get in touch with staff at <acct-staff@icann.org> and simply request a change. You may perhaps be asked to fill out a Statement of Interest if you haven't already, but I don't think there are any other requirements. As far as you're concerned I think you're an active participant already. Happy to be corrected on all of this by anyone though. Regards, Vinay PS: Taking the liberty of responding since Greg will likely (hopefully?) be asleep at this point. :) On 12 August 2016 at 09:51, parminder <parminder@itforchange.net> wrote:
On Friday 12 August 2016 02:19 AM, Greg Shatan wrote:
All,
I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers."
Thanks Greg. Two things; 1. How to know one's status? 2. Can one simply upgrade oneself from observer to member.
best, parminder
As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member."
I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...)
I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all.
Please let me know if I'm missing something.
Greg
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
*REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU.*
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction,
I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you.
In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups).
Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls:
1. *Best time(s) of day for you*. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a *day and time *poll only, for the ongoing work of this group*. Please ignore the specific dates next week.* (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.)
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr
2. *Rotation vs. fixed time*.
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b
Please respond by *23:59 UTC* on *Thursday, August 11*, so that we can get our process underway.
Best regards,
Greg Shatan
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thanks vinay On Friday 12 August 2016 03:01 PM, Vinay Kesari wrote:
Hi Parminder,
1. People can check their status here: https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction
2. Anyone can change their status from 'observer' to 'active participant' at any time. I believe the appropriate way would be to get in touch with staff at <acct-staff@icann.org <mailto:acct-staff@icann.org>> and simply request a change. You may perhaps be asked to fill out a Statement of Interest if you haven't already, but I don't think there are any other requirements. As far as you're concerned I think you're an active participant already. Happy to be corrected on all of this by anyone though.
Regards, Vinay
PS: Taking the liberty of responding since Greg will likely (hopefully?) be asleep at this point. :)
On 12 August 2016 at 09:51, parminder <parminder@itforchange.net <mailto:parminder@itforchange.net>> wrote:
On Friday 12 August 2016 02:19 AM, Greg Shatan wrote:
All,
I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers."
Thanks Greg. Two things; 1. How to know one's status? 2. Can one simply upgrade oneself from observer to member.
best, parminder
As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member."
I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...)
I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all.
Please let me know if I'm missing something.
Greg
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> wrote:
*REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU.*
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction,
I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you.
In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups).
Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls:
1. _Best time(s) of day for you_. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a *day and time *poll only, for the ongoing work of this group*. Please ignore the specific dates next week.* (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.)
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr <http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr>
2. _Rotation vs. fixed time_.
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b <http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b>
Please respond by *23:59 UTC* on *Thursday, August 11*, so that we can get our process underway.
Best regards,
Greg Shatan
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Thanks, Vinay! You are correct. The page where the roles are discussed is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Iw5yn9GRk8RcnTJzclwB-JuSe3B6JugEj_0oGOCs... The document states that observers will not actively participate and will not have posting rights to the list. I believe the role of observers was also described on at least one of the CCWG calls, as well. Greg On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Vinay Kesari <vinay.kesari@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Parminder,
1. People can check their status here: https://community.icann. org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction
2. Anyone can change their status from 'observer' to 'active participant' at any time. I believe the appropriate way would be to get in touch with staff at <acct-staff@icann.org> and simply request a change. You may perhaps be asked to fill out a Statement of Interest if you haven't already, but I don't think there are any other requirements. As far as you're concerned I think you're an active participant already. Happy to be corrected on all of this by anyone though.
Regards, Vinay
PS: Taking the liberty of responding since Greg will likely (hopefully?) be asleep at this point. :)
On 12 August 2016 at 09:51, parminder <parminder@itforchange.net> wrote:
On Friday 12 August 2016 02:19 AM, Greg Shatan wrote:
All,
I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers."
Thanks Greg. Two things; 1. How to know one's status? 2. Can one simply upgrade oneself from observer to member.
best, parminder
As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member."
I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...)
I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all.
Please let me know if I'm missing something.
Greg
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
*REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU.*
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction,
I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you.
In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups).
Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls:
1. *Best time(s) of day for you*. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a *day and time *poll only, for the ongoing work of this group*. Please ignore the specific dates next week.* (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.)
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr
2. *Rotation vs. fixed time*.
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b
Please respond by *23:59 UTC* on *Thursday, August 11*, so that we can get our process underway.
Best regards,
Greg Shatan
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Bonsoir Alain, Je ne trouve pas de définition des observateurs pour les sous-groupes du WS 2. Maintenant, et d’une manière informelle, ils donnent aux observateurs le statut de « voyeurs » passifs. Au plaisir de te revoir à Hyderabad ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Directeur Exécutif Fédération Méditerranéenne des associations d'Internet (FMAI) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Le 13 août 2016 à 00:18, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> a écrit :
Thanks, Vinay! You are correct.
The page where the roles are discussed is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Iw5yn9GRk8RcnTJzclwB-JuSe3B6JugEj_0oGOCs... <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Iw5yn9GRk8RcnTJzclwB-JuSe3B6JugEj_0oGOCs...> The document states that observers will not actively participate and will not have posting rights to the list. I believe the role of observers was also described on at least one of the CCWG calls, as well.
Greg
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Vinay Kesari <vinay.kesari@gmail.com <mailto:vinay.kesari@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Parminder,
1. People can check their status here: https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction <https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction>
2. Anyone can change their status from 'observer' to 'active participant' at any time. I believe the appropriate way would be to get in touch with staff at <acct-staff@icann.org <mailto:acct-staff@icann.org>> and simply request a change. You may perhaps be asked to fill out a Statement of Interest if you haven't already, but I don't think there are any other requirements. As far as you're concerned I think you're an active participant already. Happy to be corrected on all of this by anyone though.
Regards, Vinay
PS: Taking the liberty of responding since Greg will likely (hopefully?) be asleep at this point. :)
On 12 August 2016 at 09:51, parminder <parminder@itforchange.net <mailto:parminder@itforchange.net>> wrote:
On Friday 12 August 2016 02:19 AM, Greg Shatan wrote:
All,
I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers."
Thanks Greg. Two things; 1. How to know one's status? 2. Can one simply upgrade oneself from observer to member.
best, parminder
As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member."
I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...)
I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all.
Please let me know if I'm missing something.
Greg
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> wrote: REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU.
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction, I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you. In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups). Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls: 1. Best time(s) of day for you. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a day and time poll only, for the ongoing work of this group. Please ignore the specific dates next week. (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.) LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr <http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr> 2. Rotation vs. fixed time. LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b <http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b> Please respond by 23:59 UTC on Thursday, August 11, so that we can get our process underway. Best regards, Greg Shatan
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Tijani Peut être la définition se trouve dans notre Charter Salutations Kavouss 2016-08-13 19:07 GMT+02:00 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>:
Bonsoir Alain,
Je ne trouve pas de définition des observateurs pour les sous-groupes du WS 2. Maintenant, et d’une manière informelle, ils donnent aux observateurs le statut de « voyeurs » passifs. Au plaisir de te revoir à Hyderabad
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Le 13 août 2016 à 00:18, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> a écrit :
Thanks, Vinay! You are correct.
The page where the roles are discussed is here: https://docs.google.com/ document/d/1Iw5yn9GRk8RcnTJzclwB-JuSe3B6JugEj_0oGOCseqU/edit The document states that observers will not actively participate and will not have posting rights to the list. I believe the role of observers was also described on at least one of the CCWG calls, as well.
Greg
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Vinay Kesari <vinay.kesari@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Parminder,
1. People can check their status here: https://community.icann. org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction
2. Anyone can change their status from 'observer' to 'active participant' at any time. I believe the appropriate way would be to get in touch with staff at <acct-staff@icann.org> and simply request a change. You may perhaps be asked to fill out a Statement of Interest if you haven't already, but I don't think there are any other requirements. As far as you're concerned I think you're an active participant already. Happy to be corrected on all of this by anyone though.
Regards, Vinay
PS: Taking the liberty of responding since Greg will likely (hopefully?) be asleep at this point. :)
On 12 August 2016 at 09:51, parminder <parminder@itforchange.net> wrote:
On Friday 12 August 2016 02:19 AM, Greg Shatan wrote:
All,
I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers."
Thanks Greg. Two things; 1. How to know one's status? 2. Can one simply upgrade oneself from observer to member.
best, parminder
As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member."
I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...)
I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all.
Please let me know if I'm missing something.
Greg
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
*REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU.*
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction,
I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you.
In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups).
Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls:
1. *Best time(s) of day for you*. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a *day and time *poll only, for the ongoing work of this group*. Please ignore the specific dates next week.* (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.)
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr
2. *Rotation vs. fixed time*.
LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b
Please respond by *23:59 UTC* on *Thursday, August 11*, so that we can get our process underway.
Best regards,
Greg Shatan
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Kavouss, There is no mention of « Observers » in the CCWG Charter. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Le 13 août 2016 à 18:20, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> a écrit :
Tijani Peut être la définition se trouve dans notre Charter Salutations Kavouss
2016-08-13 19:07 GMT+02:00 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>>: Bonsoir Alain,
Je ne trouve pas de définition des observateurs pour les sous-groupes du WS 2. Maintenant, et d’une manière informelle, ils donnent aux observateurs le statut de « voyeurs » passifs. Au plaisir de te revoir à Hyderabad
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Le 13 août 2016 à 00:18, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> a écrit :
Thanks, Vinay! You are correct.
The page where the roles are discussed is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Iw5yn9GRk8RcnTJzclwB-JuSe3B6JugEj_0oGOCs... <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Iw5yn9GRk8RcnTJzclwB-JuSe3B6JugEj_0oGOCs...> The document states that observers will not actively participate and will not have posting rights to the list. I believe the role of observers was also described on at least one of the CCWG calls, as well.
Greg
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Vinay Kesari <vinay.kesari@gmail.com <mailto:vinay.kesari@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Parminder,
1. People can check their status here: https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction <https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction>
2. Anyone can change their status from 'observer' to 'active participant' at any time. I believe the appropriate way would be to get in touch with staff at <acct-staff@icann.org <mailto:acct-staff@icann.org>> and simply request a change. You may perhaps be asked to fill out a Statement of Interest if you haven't already, but I don't think there are any other requirements. As far as you're concerned I think you're an active participant already. Happy to be corrected on all of this by anyone though.
Regards, Vinay
PS: Taking the liberty of responding since Greg will likely (hopefully?) be asleep at this point. :)
On 12 August 2016 at 09:51, parminder <parminder@itforchange.net <mailto:parminder@itforchange.net>> wrote:
On Friday 12 August 2016 02:19 AM, Greg Shatan wrote:
All,
I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers."
Thanks Greg. Two things; 1. How to know one's status? 2. Can one simply upgrade oneself from observer to member.
best, parminder
As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member."
I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...)
I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all.
Please let me know if I'm missing something.
Greg
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> wrote: REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU.
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction, I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you. In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups). Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls: 1. Best time(s) of day for you. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a day and time poll only, for the ongoing work of this group. Please ignore the specific dates next week. (For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.) LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr <http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr> 2. Rotation vs. fixed time. LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b <http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b> Please respond by 23:59 UTC on Thursday, August 11, so that we can get our process underway. Best regards, Greg Shatan
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parminder -
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Vinay Kesari