There is a conflict between this call and the Reconvened IGO/INGO WG. I will try to monitor the Adobe Room for this call, but feel I should participate in the RIGOINGOWG call. Greg On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:12 AM, Rinalia Abdul Rahim < rinalia.abdulrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
Apologies for mislabeling. By "collective responsibility" I meant "collective accountability". Pre-breakfast emailing...
Best regards,
Rinalia
Rinalia Abdul Rahim
On Aug 17, 2017, at 7:59 AM, Rinalia Abdul Rahim < rinalia.abdulrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.
This is a personal input from me and not an input from the Board.
Regarding the responses to the Board's Track 2 and 3 comments on collective responsibility, I think it may be useful to apply the frame of accountability that guided the work of CCWG-Accountability (i.e., participation, transparency, appeal and redress). If within each SO/AC (including for engagement in EC processes), the standards for participation, transparency, appeals and redress apply, then the robustness of decision-making rises and the quality of the aggregate result rises. This to my mind would enhance "collective responsibility."
The Ombudsbeing (as an alternative to Ombudsman or woman :) can be an additional part of the appeals and redress process as a safeguard in case internal SO/AC processes are not sufficient or failed or preferred by affected community members. I think allowing for the Ombuds to be invoked in EC-related matters is generally fine.
I believe each SO/AC sets its own standards on participation, transparency, appeal and redress. The collective "average" on standards could rise with the proposed learning and sharing of best-practices across community and SO/ACs. What's important is that the SO/ACs are open to it and it seems from the public comments responses that they generally are. That's a good start.
I hope this is useful.
Best regards,
Rinalia
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 6:03 AM, Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org
wrote:
For those who may desire it for our call, attached is a PDF version of the Google Sheet <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uAjMUtnaigi5-zSMGmmIbvFNcPxGQC0cMB_a...> with proposed responses to public comments
From: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 6:44 PM To: "ws2-so_ac@icann.org" <ws2-so_ac@icann.org>, Steve DelBianco < sdelbianco@netchoice.org>, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com>, Thomas Rickert <thomas@rickert.net> Cc: Brenda Brewer <mssi-secretariat@icann.org> Subject: Please join the Work Stream 2 - SO/AC Accountability Subgroup Meeting #29 on Thursday 17th August @ 1300 UTC.
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0. Call Admin and Roll Call / Apologies (2min- CLO ) Apologies
1. Welcome - Opening Remarks - Our aim and purpose for today's call (3-5 min- SDB, CLO)
2. Review (brief) of last meeting records here and any Action Items (5-10 min- SDB, CLO) Refer here to our Google Doc and any list interaction on changes to draft text.
3. Primary Agenda Item - Discussion (25 -35 min SDB, FB)
- Review Public Comment documentation, and consideration of any amendments to our recommendations, from our last call and intersession list exchanges.
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4 . Next Steps. Standing Item - (5 min- CLO, SB)
- - CCWG still need to determine if any changes to our report are significant or not. - If significant changes are recommended, CCWG-Accountability WS2 may require a second public consultation. - If changes are not significant, CCWG-Accountability WS2 can forward final recommendations to Chartering Organizations for approval, and then to the ICANN Board for consideration and adoption. Noting the timeline and Key milestone dates.
5. AOB / Meeting Schedule (5 min- CLO) August Dates: Thursday 24th @ 1900 UTC Thursday 31st @ 0500 UTC
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