Hi, I do not beleive I can disabuse you of anything. Some direct evidence was given for the issues. We are taking the issue to the plenary to get discuss the general nature of the issues. To be certain each issue on the list has at least one or more instances behind it. Or are you looking for report with actionable evidence, documentation or all dates and conversations, pictures, and affidavits. I think we are trying to find the issues and build trust here not prosecute a case. There are other avenues for documenting and dealing with the actual cases. avri On 18-Apr-17 13:39, George Sadowsky wrote:
Avri,
I don't mean to be difficult, but it seems to me that the questions from staff are asking for concrete evidence regarding the existence and seriousness of issues.
If you're saying that the group cannot answer staff's questions because it doesn't have any evidence with which to respond, I can understand that. However, then adding it to the issues list is really mixing apples and oranges; the staff questions are asking for evidence, not specifying issues. It implies that the group really needs to spend time collecting evidence to decide whether the issues on the issues list are real issues or whether they should be discarded as non-issues. It also implies that the work of the group is lagging substantially if it hasn't decided yet what are the real issues to be discussed with a view toward specific remedies for amelioration.
I sense a tendency on the part of the group to avoid specifics and hard evidence, when this is precisely what you need to characterize the issues and verify that they are real. I think that at some point you have to bite the bullet and get into specifics.
Disabuse me of this, please.
George
On Apr 18, 2017, at 1:26 PM, avri doria <avri@apc.org> wrote:
Hi,
As was mentioned on the call, their questions are being folded into the issues list.
The issues list is meant to collect "real problems that exist".
It you think that there is an issue contained in the staff questions that does not figure out in the issues lists, please point it out, and better yet, add it to the issues list.
At the end of the issues list resolution discussion and solution finding, we can then perhaps answer their questions.
Thanks
avri
On 18-Apr-17 11:32, George Sadowsky wrote:
Avri and Jordan,
I ask this out of ignorance.
Has there been a response from the working group to the questions that the staff addressed to the group (attached)? If not, does it make sense to prepare such a response in order to sharpen the focus on real problems that exist?
George
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