(If you think I'm from the Corporate Dark Side, you've clearly never been to an ICANN meeting -- and the public forum in particular -- at any time between 1998 and the present day) On 12/10/15 20:01, Ron Baione wrote:
Nigel, The question was postualted, I answered it. Everytime the question is repostulated, I will reanswer it.
We can all see what the strategy is, re-ask the same question until those who aren't "corporate enough" are shouted down. Declare the results of consensus that were never asked for. Delay tactics and consensus pushing are amateur hour, not going to work on me.
Ron
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Ron
This is a Workstream 2 issue.
Please give it a rest.
On 12/10/15 19:47, Ron Baione wrote:
"E. What would the community take as evidence in the short term that the Board is acting in good faith? I'm concerned by what appears to be Board bashing on the list, wherein many things that any of us say or do are interpreted negatively and perhaps conspiratorially. I realize that the great majority of people involved int he CCSG process do not have such attitudes, but predictably it only takes a very few individuals to sour and confuse a discussion and lessen its utility."
In my opinion, an agreement to the development of an external whistleblower process to protect the post-tranaition process from bad actor government and corporate agents' influence. No reason to waste time on anything before knowing the post-transition process won't be a facade of multistakeholder democracy. The moment the public finds out from "wikileaks" etc, that nefarious activity occurred the internet will become a 100% circus show, and that means conhressional hearings.
Ron
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Nigel,
I don't see it like this.
At the moment they want us to blink first.
And if we do not, they either are going to pass forward unmodified (with whatever comments they like, of course), or, overturn themselves by resolution (which I would see as the nuclear option at the moment).
greetings, el
On 2015-10-12 14:09, Nigel Roberts wrote: [...]
But it's all academic, since no matter what the consensus outcome, the Board reserves the right to reject it anyway. [...]
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