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El ene 24, 2015, a las 11:43 AM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> escribió:
Carlos,
That is my understanding as well. Also, according to the post that started this latest unfortunate diversion, at least one "dead boy" -- to quote verbatim:
"Just to state this early, over my dead boy will the Regional Organizations of the ccNSO have anything to do or say in this."
Now, let's get back to work. Perhaps if the good Doctor had answered my request for his reasoning the first time, Seun wouldn't have made his (entirely reasonable) observation that his response didn't provide any reasoning, causing the good Doctor to accuse him of being a troll and attempting to send hm back to Africa (or at least AFRICANN).
Perhaps (and this is sheer speculation, of course), the good Doctor's approach to Seun might be due to the fact that Seun is affiliated with AfriNIC?
In any event, I apologize for any part I've played in dragging this into the ditch.
We can only advance if we treat each other with respect, understanding that everyone here has something to contribute and that nobody's perfect.
Greg Shatan
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On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 11:50 AM, "Carlos Raúl G." <crg@isoc-cr.org> wrote: I know he has a lot to do with small babies yes
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El ene 24, 2015, a las 10:17 AM, Adebunmi AKINBO <akinbo.adebunmi@gmail.com> escribió:
I guess EL is 8. -Akinbo.
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 2:47 PM, "Carlos Raúl G." <crg@isoc-cr.org> wrote: How old are you?
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El ene 23, 2015, a las 11:36 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na> escribió:
Just to state this early, over my dead boy will the Regional Organizations of the ccNSO have anything to do or say in this.
I would not mind every (cc)TLD Manager.
el
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On Jan 24, 2015, at 01:32, Bruce Tonkin <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au> wrote:
Hello Greg,
>> Just brainstorming: one possibility may be to create "mirror" or "alter ego" organizations (perhaps corporations, perhaps some other form of organized entity), roughly along the lines of the NRO/ASO relationship (the ASO is an ICANN internal structure, while the NRO is not, yet they are essentially "alter egos"). Thus, each SO and AC could create an entity independent of ICANN, but answerable to that SO and AC. The external entities could then be members of ICANN.
My understanding also is that to be "members" the organizations would need to be legal entities. In a few of the examples given in this thread, the "coordinating" organizations are not yet established as legal entities.
For example, the Number Resource Organization ( https://www.nro.net/) is a coordinating body for the 5 Regional Internet Registries (RIRs). These five RIRs are legal entities - so it may make more sense for them to be the "members" of ICANN.
My understanding is that groups like the Registrar constituency, and the registrar stakeholder group (http://www.icannregistrars.org/ ) are deliberately not established as legal entities, or as trade associations. They are coordinating groups - but any legal agreements etc are always between individual registrars as legal entities and ICANN. Recently a domain name industry association was established - I assume this is a legal entity (http://www.thedna.org/ ).
Regards, Bruce Tonkin
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