Hi Jordan, I fully agree with you. I also believe that although incredibly bureaucratic, certain truly international organisations might teach a lot in the area of consensus building and negotiation. Best, Giovanni On 06 Oct 2015, at 08:14, Jordan Carter <jordan@internetnz.net.nz<mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz>> wrote: Nigel, may I agree with this. The Board has serious and legitimate concerns to raise and perspectives to add. It is the manner in which this is being done that is causing the problem. best Jordan On 6 October 2015 at 19:11, Nigel Roberts <nigel@channelisles.net<mailto:nigel@channelisles.net>> wrote: Interesting, if the Board persist in their "we know best" behaviour, all sorts of unintended consquences may flow. This is independent of whether the Board's reservations are justified or unjustified. On 06/10/15 07:07, Rubens Kuhl wrote: What are others' views about how we proceed from here? I confess myself mystified. Since a stakeholder with enhanced leverage appears to be blocking the process, perhaps the alternative is asking NTIA for a competitive rebid of the IANA contract if a compromise can't be found. That could possibly have a consensus building effect... Rubens _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community -- Jordan Carter Chief Executive InternetNZ +64-4-495-2118 (office) | +64-21-442-649 (mob) Email: jordan@internetnz.net.nz<mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz> Skype: jordancarter Web: www.internetnz.nz<http://www.internetnz.nz/> A better world through a better Internet _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community Giovanni Seppia External Relations Manager EURid Woluwelaan 150 1831 Diegem - Belgium TEL: +32 (0) 2 401 2750 MOB:+39 335 8141733 giovanni.seppia@eurid.eu<mailto:giovanni.seppia@eurid.eu> http://www.eurid.eu<http://www.eurid.eu/> [cid:2934C4EE-CAF2-4BA4-9DC0-AB9A25CC6ADC@Docomointertouch.com] #2015euWA Please consider the environment before printing this email.<http://christmas2014.eurid.eu> Disclaimer: This email and any attachment hereto is intended solely for the person to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient or if you have received this email in error, please delete it and immediately contact the sender by telephone or email, and destroy any copies of this information. You should not use or copy it, nor disclose its content to any other person or rely upon this information. Please note that any views presented in the email and any attachment hereto are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of EURid. While all care has been taken to avoid any known viruses, the recipient is advised to check this email and any attachment for presence of viruses. http://www.eurid.eu/en/legal-disclaimer