[CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note
Dear All, We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability. Meetings The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones. Participation In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members. Statements of Interest (SOI) If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here (https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg <https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg>) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org <mailto:accountability-staff@icann.org>) if you have any questions concerning your SOI. Mailing List Observers Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff. As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org <mailto:accountability-staff@icann.org>). Preparation for the first meeting In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/enhancing-accountability-charter-03nov14-en....> ahead of the meeting. Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list. I look forward to working with you. Kind regards, Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
Dear all, For your information, I would like to provide you with an update on the size of the group. At present there are 130 people part of the CCWG-Accountability: * 15 members (ccNSO, GAC, GNSO) * 115 participants You can view the full list of names and linked SOIs at https://community.icann.org/x/IIMHAw. For members and participants, please remember to complete your SOI. If you have questions, please contact me directly. I will start to send reminder emails as of next week for those who have not completed their SOIs. In addition there are 19 observers to the CCWG-Accountability: https://community.icann.org/x/sIMHAw As a reminder, the first call of the CCWG-Accountability is (tomorrow) 9 December at 20:00 UTC. I will circulate call details to you shortly. Best, Grace From: Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 1:02 PM To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note Dear All, We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability. Meetings The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones. Participation In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members. Statements of Interest (SOI) If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here (https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg <https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg> ) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org <mailto:accountability-staff@icann.org> ) if you have any questions concerning your SOI. Mailing List Observers Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff. As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org <mailto:accountability-staff@icann.org> ). Preparation for the first meeting In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/enhancing-accountability-charter-03nov14-en .pdf> ahead of the meeting. Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list. I look forward to working with you. Kind regards, Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
Hi, I am from ccTLD and not from the GNSO but please send me a SoI in an open format, ie not Mircosoft. greetings, el Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
On Dec 8, 2014, at 18:30, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
For your information, I would like to provide you with an update on the size of the group. At present there are 130 people part of the CCWG-Accountability: 15 members (ccNSO, GAC, GNSO) 115 participants You can view the full list of names and linked SOIs at https://community.icann.org/x/IIMHAw.
For members and participants, please remember to complete your SOI. If you have questions, please contact me directly. I will start to send reminder emails as of next week for those who have not completed their SOIs.
In addition there are 19 observers to the CCWG-Accountability: https://community.icann.org/x/sIMHAw
As a reminder, the first call of the CCWG-Accountability is (tomorrow) 9 December at 20:00 UTC. I will circulate call details to you shortly.
Best, Grace
From: Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 1:02 PM To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note
Dear All,
We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability.
Meetings
The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones.
Participation
In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members.
Statements of Interest (SOI)
If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here (https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org) if you have any questions concerning your SOI.
Mailing List Observers
Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff.
As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org).
Preparation for the first meeting
In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter ahead of the meeting.
Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list.
I look forward to working with you.
Kind regards,
Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
_______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
URGENT Dear Grace , Dear Thomas Thomas I am, not a participant I am a MEMBER of the CCWG representing ICG and not participant Please kindly correct the list and do not put me ( representative of ICG) at the level of participants pls It is offending and humilating Regards K.ARASTEH 2014-12-08 18:22 GMT+01:00 Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na>:
Hi,
I am from ccTLD and not from the GNSO but please send me a SoI in an open format, ie not Mircosoft.
greetings, el
Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
On Dec 8, 2014, at 18:30, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
For your information, I would like to provide you with an update on the size of the group. At present there are 130 people part of the CCWG-Accountability:
- 15 members (ccNSO, GAC, GNSO) - 115 participants
You can view the full list of names and linked SOIs at https://community.icann.org/x/IIMHAw.
*For members and participants, please remember to complete your SOI.* If you have questions, please contact me directly. I will start to send reminder emails as of next week for those who have not completed their SOIs.
In addition there are 19 observers to the CCWG-Accountability: https://community.icann.org/x/sIMHAw
*As a reminder, the first call of the CCWG-Accountability is (tomorrow) 9 December at 20:00 UTC*. I will circulate call details to you shortly.
Best, Grace
From: Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 1:02 PM To: Accountability Cross Community < accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note
Dear All,
We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability.
*Meetings*
The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for *Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC* (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones.
*Participation*
In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members.
*Statements of Interest (SOI)*
If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here ( https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org) if you have any questions concerning your SOI.
*Mailing List Observers*
Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff.
As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad ( accountability-staff@icann.org).
*Preparation for the first meeting*
In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/enhancing-accountability-charter-03nov14-en....> ahead of the meeting.
Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list.
I look forward to working with you.
Kind regards,
Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
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Would you send a list to all members and participants listing all members and participants is we don't offend and humiliate others? Sincerely Carrie Devirah Founder THE CENTER FOR COPYRIGHT INTEGRITY Www.centerforintegrity.com Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 8, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> wrote:
URGENT Dear Grace , Dear Thomas Thomas I am, not a participant I am a MEMBER of the CCWG representing ICG and not participant Please kindly correct the list and do not put me ( representative of ICG) at the level of participants pls It is offending and humilating Regards K.ARASTEH
2014-12-08 18:22 GMT+01:00 Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na>:
Hi,
I am from ccTLD and not from the GNSO but please send me a SoI in an open format, ie not Mircosoft.
greetings, el
Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
On Dec 8, 2014, at 18:30, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
For your information, I would like to provide you with an update on the size of the group. At present there are 130 people part of the CCWG-Accountability: 15 members (ccNSO, GAC, GNSO) 115 participants You can view the full list of names and linked SOIs at https://community.icann.org/x/IIMHAw.
For members and participants, please remember to complete your SOI. If you have questions, please contact me directly. I will start to send reminder emails as of next week for those who have not completed their SOIs.
In addition there are 19 observers to the CCWG-Accountability: https://community.icann.org/x/sIMHAw
As a reminder, the first call of the CCWG-Accountability is (tomorrow) 9 December at 20:00 UTC. I will circulate call details to you shortly.
Best, Grace
From: Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 1:02 PM To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note
Dear All,
We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability.
Meetings
The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones.
Participation
In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members.
Statements of Interest (SOI)
If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here (https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org) if you have any questions concerning your SOI.
Mailing List Observers
Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff.
As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org).
Preparation for the first meeting
In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter ahead of the meeting.
Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list.
I look forward to working with you.
Kind regards,
Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
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Please explain why it is so humiliating and offending to be a participant? I just joined as a participant and am happy to be of help. Isn't that the idea, to give our input and be active? Best regards, Pamela Covington Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 8, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Carrie <carriedev@gmail.com> wrote:
Would you send a list to all members and participants listing all members and participants is we don't offend and humiliate others? Sincerely Carrie Devirah Founder THE CENTER FOR COPYRIGHT INTEGRITY Www.centerforintegrity.com
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 8, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> wrote:
URGENT Dear Grace , Dear Thomas Thomas I am, not a participant I am a MEMBER of the CCWG representing ICG and not participant Please kindly correct the list and do not put me ( representative of ICG) at the level of participants pls It is offending and humilating Regards K.ARASTEH
2014-12-08 18:22 GMT+01:00 Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na>:
Hi,
I am from ccTLD and not from the GNSO but please send me a SoI in an open format, ie not Mircosoft.
greetings, el
Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
On Dec 8, 2014, at 18:30, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
For your information, I would like to provide you with an update on the size of the group. At present there are 130 people part of the CCWG-Accountability: 15 members (ccNSO, GAC, GNSO) 115 participants You can view the full list of names and linked SOIs at https://community.icann.org/x/IIMHAw.
For members and participants, please remember to complete your SOI. If you have questions, please contact me directly. I will start to send reminder emails as of next week for those who have not completed their SOIs.
In addition there are 19 observers to the CCWG-Accountability: https://community.icann.org/x/sIMHAw
As a reminder, the first call of the CCWG-Accountability is (tomorrow) 9 December at 20:00 UTC. I will circulate call details to you shortly.
Best, Grace
From: Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 1:02 PM To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note
Dear All,
We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability.
Meetings
The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones.
Participation
In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members.
Statements of Interest (SOI)
If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here (https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org) if you have any questions concerning your SOI.
Mailing List Observers
Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff.
As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org).
Preparation for the first meeting
In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter ahead of the meeting.
Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list.
I look forward to working with you.
Kind regards,
Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
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Dear all, The list of members and participants is here: https://community.icann.org/x/IIMHAw. From: Pamela Covington <pamcov12@gmail.com> Date: Monday, December 8, 2014 2:20 PM To: Carrie <carriedev@gmail.com> Cc: "Thomas.Schneider@bakom.admin.ch" <Thomas.Schneider@bakom.admin.ch>, Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note Please explain why it is so humiliating and offending to be a participant? I just joined as a participant and am happy to be of help. Isn't that the idea, to give our input and be active? Best regards, Pamela Covington Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Carrie <carriedev@gmail.com> wrote:
Would you send a list to all members and participants listing all members and participants is we don't offend and humiliate others? Sincerely Carrie Devirah Founder THE CENTER FOR COPYRIGHT INTEGRITY Www.centerforintegrity.com <http://Www.centerforintegrity.com>
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 8, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> wrote:
URGENT Dear Grace , Dear Thomas Thomas I am, not a participant I am a MEMBER of the CCWG representing ICG and not participant Please kindly correct the list and do not put me ( representative of ICG) at the level of participants pls It is offending and humilating Regards K.ARASTEH
2014-12-08 18:22 GMT+01:00 Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na>:
Hi,
I am from ccTLD and not from the GNSO but please send me a SoI in an open format, ie not Mircosoft.
greetings, el
Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
On Dec 8, 2014, at 18:30, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
For your information, I would like to provide you with an update on the size of the group. At present there are 130 people part of the CCWG-Accountability: * 15 members (ccNSO, GAC, GNSO) * 115 participants You can view the full list of names and linked SOIs at https://community.icann.org/x/IIMHAw.
For members and participants, please remember to complete your SOI. If you have questions, please contact me directly. I will start to send reminder emails as of next week for those who have not completed their SOIs.
In addition there are 19 observers to the CCWG-Accountability: https://community.icann.org/x/sIMHAw
As a reminder, the first call of the CCWG-Accountability is (tomorrow) 9 December at 20:00 UTC. I will circulate call details to you shortly.
Best, Grace
From: Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 1:02 PM To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note
Dear All, We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability. Meetings The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones. Participation In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members. Statements of Interest (SOI) If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here (https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg <https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg> ) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org <mailto:accountability-staff@icann.org> ) if you have any questions concerning your SOI. Mailing List Observers Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff. As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org <mailto:accountability-staff@icann.org> ). Preparation for the first meeting In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/enhancing-accountability-charter-03nov14-e n.pdf> ahead of the meeting. Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list. I look forward to working with you. Kind regards, Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO) _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
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All, In the interests of clarity and collegiality, I point our organizers to the following paragraph excerpted from Thomas Schneider's email of today's date regarding "GAC participation in Accountability CCWG": Furthermore, please also note that one of the GAC members in the ICG, Mr. Kavouss Arasteh/Iran, email kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-dt> <mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-dt>>, has been appointed as ICG liaison to the CCWG. Best Regards, Greg Shatan *Gregory S. Shatan **ï* *Abelman Frayne & Schwab* *666 Third Avenue **ï** New York, NY 10017-5621* *Direct* 212-885-9253 *| **Main* 212-949-9022 *Fax* 212-949-9190 *|* *Cell *917-816-6428 *gsshatan@lawabel.com <gsshatan@lawabel.com>* *ICANN-related: gregshatanipc@gmail.com <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> * *www.lawabel.com <http://www.lawabel.com/>* On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> wrote:
URGENT Dear Grace , Dear Thomas Thomas I am, not a participant I am a MEMBER of the CCWG representing ICG and not participant Please kindly correct the list and do not put me ( representative of ICG) at the level of participants pls It is offending and humilating Regards K.ARASTEH
2014-12-08 18:22 GMT+01:00 Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na>:
Hi,
I am from ccTLD and not from the GNSO but please send me a SoI in an open format, ie not Mircosoft.
greetings, el
Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
On Dec 8, 2014, at 18:30, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
For your information, I would like to provide you with an update on the size of the group. At present there are 130 people part of the CCWG-Accountability:
- 15 members (ccNSO, GAC, GNSO) - 115 participants
You can view the full list of names and linked SOIs at https://community.icann.org/x/IIMHAw.
*For members and participants, please remember to complete your SOI.* If you have questions, please contact me directly. I will start to send reminder emails as of next week for those who have not completed their SOIs.
In addition there are 19 observers to the CCWG-Accountability: https://community.icann.org/x/sIMHAw
*As a reminder, the first call of the CCWG-Accountability is (tomorrow) 9 December at 20:00 UTC*. I will circulate call details to you shortly.
Best, Grace
From: Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 1:02 PM To: Accountability Cross Community < accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note
Dear All,
We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability.
*Meetings*
The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for *Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC* (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones.
*Participation*
In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members.
*Statements of Interest (SOI)*
If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here ( https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org) if you have any questions concerning your SOI.
*Mailing List Observers*
Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff.
As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad ( accountability-staff@icann.org).
*Preparation for the first meeting*
In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/enhancing-accountability-charter-03nov14-en....> ahead of the meeting.
Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list.
I look forward to working with you.
Kind regards,
Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
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Can we in the spirit of accountability deliberate on consensus definitions of what is considered offensive, and what humiliating, in particular when read together with ICANN's "code" of behavior, and taking into account sensitivities as exhibited by different cultures or SO/ACs. In the ccNSO we speak frankly and the last I would want is to step on somebody's toes who is not used to this. el Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
On Dec 8, 2014, at 20:48, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> wrote:
URGENT Dear Grace , Dear Thomas Thomas I am, not a participant I am a MEMBER of the CCWG representing ICG and not participant Please kindly correct the list and do not put me ( representative of ICG) at the level of participants pls It is offending and humilating Regards K.ARASTEH
2014-12-08 18:22 GMT+01:00 Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na>:
Hi,
I am from ccTLD and not from the GNSO but please send me a SoI in an open format, ie not Mircosoft.
greetings, el
Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
On Dec 8, 2014, at 18:30, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
For your information, I would like to provide you with an update on the size of the group. At present there are 130 people part of the CCWG-Accountability: 15 members (ccNSO, GAC, GNSO) 115 participants You can view the full list of names and linked SOIs at https://community.icann.org/x/IIMHAw.
For members and participants, please remember to complete your SOI. If you have questions, please contact me directly. I will start to send reminder emails as of next week for those who have not completed their SOIs.
In addition there are 19 observers to the CCWG-Accountability: https://community.icann.org/x/sIMHAw
As a reminder, the first call of the CCWG-Accountability is (tomorrow) 9 December at 20:00 UTC. I will circulate call details to you shortly.
Best, Grace
From: Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 1:02 PM To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note
Dear All,
We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability.
Meetings
The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones.
Participation
In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members.
Statements of Interest (SOI)
If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here (https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org) if you have any questions concerning your SOI.
Mailing List Observers
Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff.
As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org).
Preparation for the first meeting
In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter ahead of the meeting.
Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list.
I look forward to working with you.
Kind regards,
Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
Dear Grace, During the first conference call it was made clear that (as expected) the charter of the group will not be changed, and that "should there be a need for a consensus call or decision, such consensus call or decision will be limited to CCWG-Accountability members appointed by the chartering organizations". Therefore, for the reasons mentioned in my previous E-Mails, I will not participate in these discussions and I reserve my right to submit to appropriate forums my comments regarding the output of this group. Please remove my name from the list of participants and from the mailing list. Thank you and best regards, Richard -----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org]On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad Sent: lundi, 8. decembre 2014 17:31 To: Thomas Rickert; accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note Dear all, For your information, I would like to provide you with an update on the size of the group. At present there are 130 people part of the CCWG-Accountability: 15 members (ccNSO, GAC, GNSO) 115 participants You can view the full list of names and linked SOIs at https://community.icann.org/x/IIMHAw. For members and participants, please remember to complete your SOI. If you have questions, please contact me directly. I will start to send reminder emails as of next week for those who have not completed their SOIs. In addition there are 19 observers to the CCWG-Accountability: https://community.icann.org/x/sIMHAw As a reminder, the first call of the CCWG-Accountability is (tomorrow) 9 December at 20:00 UTC. I will circulate call details to you shortly. Best, Grace From: Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 1:02 PM To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note Dear All, We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability. Meetings The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones. Participation In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members. Statements of Interest (SOI) If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here (https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org) if you have any questions concerning your SOI. Mailing List Observers Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff. As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org). Preparation for the first meeting In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter ahead of the meeting. Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list. I look forward to working with you. Kind regards, Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
Dear Richard Do not worry Nothing will be done seriously Every thing is cosmetic and superficial No one really wishes to go to the core of the problem They just want to collect existing information which did not respond to the fundamental questions of accountability You are right but which forum you want to submit your proposal Who will listen to that Who will take that into account No one Sorry Do not be disappointed Continue to freely express your views KAVOUSS 2014-12-11 12:25 GMT+01:00 Richard Hill <rhill@hill-a.ch>:
Dear Grace,
During the first conference call it was made clear that (as expected) the charter of the group will not be changed, and that "should there be a need for a consensus call or decision, such consensus call or decision will be limited to CCWG-Accountability members appointed by the chartering organizations".
Therefore, for the reasons mentioned in my previous E-Mails, I will not participate in these discussions and I reserve my right to submit to appropriate forums my comments regarding the output of this group.
Please remove my name from the list of participants and from the mailing list.
Thank you and best regards, Richard
-----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org]On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad Sent: lundi, 8. decembre 2014 17:31 To: Thomas Rickert; accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note
Dear all,
For your information, I would like to provide you with an update on the size of the group. At present there are 130 people part of the CCWG-Accountability: 15 members (ccNSO, GAC, GNSO) 115 participants You can view the full list of names and linked SOIs at https://community.icann.org/x/IIMHAw.
For members and participants, please remember to complete your SOI. If you have questions, please contact me directly. I will start to send reminder emails as of next week for those who have not completed their SOIs.
In addition there are 19 observers to the CCWG-Accountability: https://community.icann.org/x/sIMHAw
As a reminder, the first call of the CCWG-Accountability is (tomorrow) 9 December at 20:00 UTC. I will circulate call details to you shortly.
Best, Grace
From: Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 1:02 PM To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note
Dear All, We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability. Meetings The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones. Participation In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members. Statements of Interest (SOI) If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here (https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org) if you have any questions concerning your SOI. Mailing List Observers Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff. As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org). Preparation for the first meeting In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter ahead of the meeting. Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list. I look forward to working with you. Kind regards, Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
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Dear Mr Arasteh, I am not sure I can follow you as I can not find your positions in the documents provided so far. Are these the ones of ICG, GAC or both? And where can I learn more about them? Can you provide a link? el Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
On Dec 11, 2014, at 22:44, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Richard Do not worry Nothing will be done seriously Every thing is cosmetic and superficial No one really wishes to go to the core of the problem They just want to collect existing information which did not respond to the fundamental questions of accountability You are right but which forum you want to submit your proposal Who will listen to that Who will take that into account No one Sorry Do not be disappointed Continue to freely express your views KAVOUSS
[...]
Rec'd with thx. Rudi Daniel ICT consulting & lighting products 784 430 9235 On Dec 5, 2014 2:03 PM, "Thomas Rickert" <rickert@anwaelte.de> wrote:
Dear All,
We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability.
*Meetings*
The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for *Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC* (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones.
*Participation*
In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members.
*Statements of Interest (SOI)*
If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here ( https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org) if you have any questions concerning your SOI.
*Mailing List Observers*
Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff.
As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad ( accountability-staff@icann.org).
*Preparation for the first meeting*
In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/enhancing-accountability-charter-03nov14-en....> ahead of the meeting.
Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list.
I look forward to working with you.
Kind regards,
Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
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+1 Greg +1 Pamela -1 Arasteh I am a participant by the look of things and its not embarrassing or humiliating. We need to guide against such utterances to build fluidity and respect for the process. We all count as we contribute to the current issue. Any ground rules in the charter that we need to take note to ensure rights and obligations? Moderator(s) should put us through. -AA. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Rudolph Daniel <rudi.daniel@gmail.com> wrote:
Rec'd with thx.
Rudi Daniel ICT consulting & lighting products 784 430 9235 On Dec 5, 2014 2:03 PM, "Thomas Rickert" <rickert@anwaelte.de> wrote:
Dear All,
We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability.
*Meetings*
The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for *Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC* (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones.
*Participation*
In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members.
*Statements of Interest (SOI)*
If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here ( https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org) if you have any questions concerning your SOI.
*Mailing List Observers*
Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff.
As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad ( accountability-staff@icann.org).
*Preparation for the first meeting*
In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/enhancing-accountability-charter-03nov14-en....> ahead of the meeting.
Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list.
I look forward to working with you.
Kind regards,
Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
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Dear all, we would like to suggest we clarify the question of membership and participant status as well as the role of a liaison during tomorrow's call. Kindest regards, Mathieu Weill and Thomas Rickert
Am 08.12.2014 um 23:49 schrieb Adebunmi AKINBO <akinbo.adebunmi@gmail.com>:
+1 Greg +1 Pamela -1 Arasteh
I am a participant by the look of things and its not embarrassing or humiliating. We need to guide against such utterances to build fluidity and respect for the process. We all count as we contribute to the current issue.
Any ground rules in the charter that we need to take note to ensure rights and obligations? Moderator(s) should put us through. -AA.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Rudolph Daniel <rudi.daniel@gmail.com <mailto:rudi.daniel@gmail.com>> wrote: Rec'd with thx.
Rudi Daniel ICT consulting & lighting products 784 430 9235
On Dec 5, 2014 2:03 PM, "Thomas Rickert" <rickert@anwaelte.de <mailto:rickert@anwaelte.de>> wrote: Dear All,
We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability.
Meetings
The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones.
Participation
In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members.
Statements of Interest (SOI)
If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here (https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg <https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg>) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org <mailto:accountability-staff@icann.org>) if you have any questions concerning your SOI.
Mailing List Observers
Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff.
As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org <mailto:accountability-staff@icann.org>).
Preparation for the first meeting
In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/enhancing-accountability-charter-03nov14-en....> ahead of the meeting.
Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list.
I look forward to working with you.
Kind regards,
Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
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Member, Executive Board of Directors, Nigeria Internet Registration Association (NiRA) www.nira.org.ng <http://www.nira.org.ng/> | akinbo@nira.org.ng <mailto:akinbo@yips.org.ng>
Team Member, DNS Africa Magazine, @dnsafrica www.dnsafrica.org <http://www.dnsafrica.org/>
National Convener, Nigerian Youth Coalition on Internet Governance (NG-YCIG) www.ycig.org.ng <http://www.nira.org.ng/>
President, Young Internet Professionals (YiPS) wwwyips.org.ng <http://wwwyips.org.ng/> | akinbo@yips.org.ng <mailto:akinbo@yips.org.ng>
The RedHub. 12, Afonka Odebunmi Street, Lagos State.
National Focal Point ( Nigeria ) 2009-2011. Global Youth Coalition on HIV/AIDS (a program of TakingITGlobal) www.youthaidscoalition.org <http://www.youthaidscoalition.org/> www.takingitglobal.com <http://www.takingitglobal.com/> www.iaids.org <http://www.iaids.org/> About me: http://profiles.tigweb.org/pscornerstone <http://profiles.tigweb.org/pscornerstone>
Mathieu, Thomas and all, I might humbly suggest that we all re-read the CCWG's Charter prior to that discussion, to be found at https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Charter. Best regards, Greg Shatan *Gregory S. Shatan **ï* *Abelman Frayne & Schwab* *666 Third Avenue **ï** New York, NY 10017-5621* *Direct* 212-885-9253 *| **Main* 212-949-9022 *Fax* 212-949-9190 *|* *Cell *917-816-6428 *gsshatan@lawabel.com <gsshatan@lawabel.com>* *ICANN-related: gregshatanipc@gmail.com <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> * *www.lawabel.com <http://www.lawabel.com/>* On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> wrote:
Dear all, we would like to suggest we clarify the question of membership and participant status as well as the role of a liaison during tomorrow's call.
Kindest regards, Mathieu Weill and Thomas Rickert
Am 08.12.2014 um 23:49 schrieb Adebunmi AKINBO <akinbo.adebunmi@gmail.com
:
+1 Greg +1 Pamela -1 Arasteh
I am a participant by the look of things and its not embarrassing or humiliating. We need to guide against such utterances to build fluidity and respect for the process. We all count as we contribute to the current issue.
Any ground rules in the charter that we need to take note to ensure rights and obligations? Moderator(s) should put us through. -AA.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Rudolph Daniel <rudi.daniel@gmail.com> wrote:
Rec'd with thx.
Rudi Daniel ICT consulting & lighting products 784 430 9235 On Dec 5, 2014 2:03 PM, "Thomas Rickert" <rickert@anwaelte.de> wrote:
Dear All,
We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability.
*Meetings*
The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for *Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC* (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones.
*Participation*
In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members.
*Statements of Interest (SOI)*
If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here ( https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad ( accountability-staff@icann.org) if you have any questions concerning your SOI.
*Mailing List Observers*
Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff.
As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad ( accountability-staff@icann.org).
*Preparation for the first meeting*
In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/enhancing-accountability-charter-03nov14-en....> ahead of the meeting.
Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list.
I look forward to working with you.
Kind regards,
Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
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-- *Evang. Akinbo A. A. Cornerstone, Nigeria.* +2348064464545, +2348089118151 | 2BAC511D.
*Member, Executive Board of Directors*, Nigeria Internet Registration Association (NiRA) www.nira.org.ng | akinbo@nira.org.ng <akinbo@yips.org.ng>
*Team Member,* DNS Africa Magazine, @dnsafrica www.dnsafrica.org
*National Convener,* Nigerian Youth Coalition on Internet Governance (NG-YCIG) www.ycig.org.ng <http://www.nira.org.ng/>
*President,* Young Internet Professionals (YiPS) wwwyips.org.ng | akinbo@yips.org.ng
*The RedHub.* 12, Afonka Odebunmi Street, Lagos State.
*National Focal Point ( Nigeria ) 2009-2011.* Global Youth Coalition on HIV/AIDS (a program of TakingITGlobal) www.youthaidscoalition.org www.takingitglobal.com www.iaids.org About me: http://profiles.tigweb.org/pscornerstone
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Indeed, in Section IV, under "Membership Criteria", the charter says: "Participants will be able to actively participate in and attend all CCWG-accountability meetings, work groups and sub-work groups. However, should there be a need for a consensus call or decision, such consensus call or decision will be limited to CCWG-Accountability members appointed by the chartering organizations." That is, "participants" do not have decision-making rights. Here is what I had to say about this on 11 November (and I understand that the message in question was transmitted to the co-chairs of the drafting team for the charter):
Work Stream 1 of this group is "focused on mechanisms enhancing ICANN accountability that must be in place or committed to within the time frame of the IANA Stewardship Transition;"
In this context, it is important to note that the NTIA called for the IANA stewardship function to be transitioned to "the global multistakeholder community", which is broader than the existing ICANN constituency.
In contrast, the Accountability CCWG, while stating that it will adhere to the principle of opennes, has in fact created a two-tier structure, with decision-making power being restricted to a specific group of stakeholders, namely those currently involved in the domain name business.
There is of course nothing wrong with a subset of stakeholders conducting consultations and presenting proposals, so I have no objection to the CCWG per se and I am not prejudging the output of the CCWG.
But it is not a process that is truly open to the global multistakeholder community.
Therefore I will not participate as an observer and I reserve my right to submit to appropriate forums and entities my views regarding the outputs of the CCWG.
So, unless the charter is modified, I don't plan to participate in the group. Or do I misunderstand what seems to be clear language in the charter? Thanks and best, Richard -----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org]On Behalf Of Greg Shatan Sent: mardi, 9. décembre 2014 00:57 To: Thomas Rickert Cc: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note Mathieu, Thomas and all, I might humbly suggest that we all re-read the CCWG's Charter prior to that discussion, to be found at https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Charter. Best regards, Greg Shatan Gregory S. Shatan ï Abelman Frayne & Schwab 666 Third Avenue ï New York, NY 10017-5621 Direct 212-885-9253 | Main 212-949-9022 Fax 212-949-9190 | Cell 917-816-6428 gsshatan@lawabel.com ICANN-related: gregshatanipc@gmail.com www.lawabel.com On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> wrote: Dear all, we would like to suggest we clarify the question of membership and participant status as well as the role of a liaison during tomorrow's call. Kindest regards, Mathieu Weill and Thomas Rickert Am 08.12.2014 um 23:49 schrieb Adebunmi AKINBO <akinbo.adebunmi@gmail.com>: +1 Greg +1 Pamela -1 Arasteh I am a participant by the look of things and its not embarrassing or humiliating. We need to guide against such utterances to build fluidity and respect for the process. We all count as we contribute to the current issue. Any ground rules in the charter that we need to take note to ensure rights and obligations? Moderator(s) should put us through. -AA. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Rudolph Daniel <rudi.daniel@gmail.com> wrote: Rec'd with thx. Rudi Daniel ICT consulting & lighting products 784 430 9235 On Dec 5, 2014 2:03 PM, "Thomas Rickert" <rickert@anwaelte.de> wrote: Dear All, We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability. Meetings The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones. Participation In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members. Statements of Interest (SOI) If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here (https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org) if you have any questions concerning your SOI. Mailing List Observers Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff. As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org). Preparation for the first meeting In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter ahead of the meeting. Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list. I look forward to working with you. Kind regards, Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO) _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community -- Evang. Akinbo A. A. Cornerstone, Nigeria. +2348064464545, +2348089118151 | 2BAC511D. Member, Executive Board of Directors, Nigeria Internet Registration Association (NiRA) www.nira.org.ng | akinbo@nira.org.ng Team Member, DNS Africa Magazine, @dnsafrica www.dnsafrica.org National Convener, Nigerian Youth Coalition on Internet Governance (NG-YCIG) www.ycig.org.ng President, Young Internet Professionals (YiPS) wwwyips.org.ng | akinbo@yips.org.ng The RedHub. 12, Afonka Odebunmi Street, Lagos State. National Focal Point ( Nigeria ) 2009-2011. Global Youth Coalition on HIV/AIDS (a program of TakingITGlobal) www.youthaidscoalition.org www.takingitglobal.com www.iaids.org About me: http://profiles.tigweb.org/pscornerstone _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
Dear All, Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the re[preventatives of 2014-12-09 10:22 GMT+01:00 Richard Hill <rhill@hill-a.ch>:
Indeed, in Section IV, under "Membership Criteria", the charter says:
"Participants will be able to actively participate in and attend all CCWG-accountability meetings, work groups and sub-work groups. However, should there be a need for a consensus call or decision, such consensus call or decision will be limited to CCWG-Accountability members appointed by the chartering organizations."
That is, "participants" do not have decision-making rights.
Here is what I had to say about this on 11 November (and I understand that the message in question was transmitted to the co-chairs of the drafting team for the charter):
Work Stream 1 of this group is "focused on mechanisms enhancing ICANN accountability that must be in place or committed to within the time frame of the IANA Stewardship Transition;"
In this context, it is important to note that the NTIA called for the IANA stewardship function to be transitioned to "the global multistakeholder community", which is broader than the existing ICANN constituency.
In contrast, the Accountability CCWG, while stating that it will adhere to the principle of opennes, has in fact created a two-tier structure, with decision-making power being restricted to a specific group of stakeholders, namely those currently involved in the domain name business.
There is of course nothing wrong with a subset of stakeholders conducting consultations and presenting proposals, so I have no objection to the CCWG per se and I am not prejudging the output of the CCWG.
But it is not a process that is truly open to the global multistakeholder community.
Therefore I will not participate as an observer and I reserve my right to submit to appropriate forums and entities my views regarding the outputs of the CCWG.
So, unless the charter is modified, I don't plan to participate in the group.
Or do I misunderstand what seems to be clear language in the charter?
Thanks and best, Richard
-----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org]On Behalf Of Greg Shatan Sent: mardi, 9. décembre 2014 00:57 To: Thomas Rickert Cc: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note
Mathieu, Thomas and all,
I might humbly suggest that we all re-read the CCWG's Charter prior to that discussion, to be found at https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Charter.
Best regards,
Greg Shatan
Gregory S. Shatan ï Abelman Frayne & Schwab 666 Third Avenue ï New York, NY 10017-5621 Direct 212-885-9253 | Main 212-949-9022 Fax 212-949-9190 | Cell 917-816-6428 gsshatan@lawabel.com ICANN-related: gregshatanipc@gmail.com www.lawabel.com
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> wrote:
Dear all, we would like to suggest we clarify the question of membership and participant status as well as the role of a liaison during tomorrow's call.
Kindest regards, Mathieu Weill and Thomas Rickert
Am 08.12.2014 um 23:49 schrieb Adebunmi AKINBO <akinbo.adebunmi@gmail.com
:
+1 Greg +1 Pamela -1 Arasteh
I am a participant by the look of things and its not embarrassing or humiliating. We need to guide against such utterances to build fluidity and respect for the process. We all count as we contribute to the current issue.
Any ground rules in the charter that we need to take note to ensure rights and obligations? Moderator(s) should put us through. -AA.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Rudolph Daniel <rudi.daniel@gmail.com> wrote:
Rec'd with thx. Rudi Daniel ICT consulting & lighting products 784 430 9235 On Dec 5, 2014 2:03 PM, "Thomas Rickert" <rickert@anwaelte.de> wrote:
Dear All, We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability. Meetings The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones. Participation In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members. Statements of Interest (SOI) If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here ( https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org) if you have any questions concerning your SOI. Mailing List Observers Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff. As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad ( accountability-staff@icann.org). Preparation for the first meeting In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter ahead of the meeting. Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list. I look forward to working with you. Kind regards, Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
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National Focal Point ( Nigeria ) 2009-2011. Global Youth Coalition on HIV/AIDS (a program of TakingITGlobal) www.youthaidscoalition.org www.takingitglobal.com www.iaids.org About me: http://profiles.tigweb.org/pscornerstone
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Dear All, Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the repreventatives of ICG would be given the right to take part in consensus building.The confusion came from the message sent by T 2014-12-09 10:33 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>:
Dear All, Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the re[preventatives of
2014-12-09 10:22 GMT+01:00 Richard Hill <rhill@hill-a.ch>:
Indeed, in Section IV, under "Membership Criteria", the charter says:
"Participants will be able to actively participate in and attend all CCWG-accountability meetings, work groups and sub-work groups. However, should there be a need for a consensus call or decision, such consensus call or decision will be limited to CCWG-Accountability members appointed by the chartering organizations."
That is, "participants" do not have decision-making rights.
Here is what I had to say about this on 11 November (and I understand that the message in question was transmitted to the co-chairs of the drafting team for the charter):
Work Stream 1 of this group is "focused on mechanisms enhancing ICANN accountability that must be in place or committed to within the time frame of the IANA Stewardship Transition;"
In this context, it is important to note that the NTIA called for the IANA stewardship function to be transitioned to "the global multistakeholder community", which is broader than the existing ICANN constituency.
In contrast, the Accountability CCWG, while stating that it will adhere to the principle of opennes, has in fact created a two-tier structure, with decision-making power being restricted to a specific group of stakeholders, namely those currently involved in the domain name business.
There is of course nothing wrong with a subset of stakeholders conducting consultations and presenting proposals, so I have no objection to the CCWG per se and I am not prejudging the output of the CCWG.
But it is not a process that is truly open to the global multistakeholder community.
Therefore I will not participate as an observer and I reserve my right to submit to appropriate forums and entities my views regarding the outputs of the CCWG.
So, unless the charter is modified, I don't plan to participate in the group.
Or do I misunderstand what seems to be clear language in the charter?
Thanks and best, Richard
-----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org]On Behalf Of Greg Shatan Sent: mardi, 9. décembre 2014 00:57 To: Thomas Rickert Cc: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note
Mathieu, Thomas and all,
I might humbly suggest that we all re-read the CCWG's Charter prior to that discussion, to be found at https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Charter.
Best regards,
Greg Shatan
Gregory S. Shatan ï Abelman Frayne & Schwab 666 Third Avenue ï New York, NY 10017-5621 Direct 212-885-9253 | Main 212-949-9022 Fax 212-949-9190 | Cell 917-816-6428 gsshatan@lawabel.com ICANN-related: gregshatanipc@gmail.com www.lawabel.com
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> wrote:
Dear all, we would like to suggest we clarify the question of membership and participant status as well as the role of a liaison during tomorrow's call.
Kindest regards, Mathieu Weill and Thomas Rickert
Am 08.12.2014 um 23:49 schrieb Adebunmi AKINBO <akinbo.adebunmi@gmail.com
:
+1 Greg +1 Pamela -1 Arasteh
I am a participant by the look of things and its not embarrassing or humiliating. We need to guide against such utterances to build fluidity and respect for the process. We all count as we contribute to the current issue.
Any ground rules in the charter that we need to take note to ensure rights and obligations? Moderator(s) should put us through. -AA.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Rudolph Daniel <rudi.daniel@gmail.com> wrote:
Rec'd with thx. Rudi Daniel ICT consulting & lighting products 784 430 9235 On Dec 5, 2014 2:03 PM, "Thomas Rickert" <rickert@anwaelte.de> wrote:
Dear All, We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability. Meetings The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones. Participation In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members. Statements of Interest (SOI) If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here ( https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff@icann.org) if you have any questions concerning your SOI. Mailing List Observers Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff. As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad ( accountability-staff@icann.org). Preparation for the first meeting In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter ahead of the meeting. Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list. I look forward to working with you. Kind regards, Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
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Member, Executive Board of Directors, Nigeria Internet Registration Association (NiRA) www.nira.org.ng | akinbo@nira.org.ng
Team Member, DNS Africa Magazine, @dnsafrica www.dnsafrica.org
National Convener, Nigerian Youth Coalition on Internet Governance (NG-YCIG) www.ycig.org.ng
President, Young Internet Professionals (YiPS) wwwyips.org.ng | akinbo@yips.org.ng
The RedHub. 12, Afonka Odebunmi Street, Lagos State.
National Focal Point ( Nigeria ) 2009-2011. Global Youth Coalition on HIV/AIDS (a program of TakingITGlobal) www.youthaidscoalition.org www.takingitglobal.com www.iaids.org About me: http://profiles.tigweb.org/pscornerstone
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Dear All, Sorry my connection was interrupted two times, I repeat Dear All Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the repreventatives of ICG would be given the right to take part in consensus building.The confusion came from the message sent by Thomas in his announcement that it did not make it clear that I am among the 5 members of GAC ,REPRESTING ICG. There are problems in the whole process. I 2014-12-09 10:35 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>:
Dear All, Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the repreventatives of ICG would be given the right to take part in consensus building.The confusion came from the message sent by T
2014-12-09 10:33 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>:
Dear All, Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the re[preventatives of
2014-12-09 10:22 GMT+01:00 Richard Hill <rhill@hill-a.ch>:
Indeed, in Section IV, under "Membership Criteria", the charter says:
"Participants will be able to actively participate in and attend all CCWG-accountability meetings, work groups and sub-work groups. However, should there be a need for a consensus call or decision, such consensus call or decision will be limited to CCWG-Accountability members appointed by the chartering organizations."
That is, "participants" do not have decision-making rights.
Here is what I had to say about this on 11 November (and I understand that the message in question was transmitted to the co-chairs of the drafting team for the charter):
Work Stream 1 of this group is "focused on mechanisms enhancing ICANN accountability that must be in place or committed to within the time frame of the IANA Stewardship Transition;"
In this context, it is important to note that the NTIA called for the IANA stewardship function to be transitioned to "the global multistakeholder community", which is broader than the existing ICANN constituency.
In contrast, the Accountability CCWG, while stating that it will adhere to the principle of opennes, has in fact created a two-tier structure, with decision-making power being restricted to a specific group of stakeholders, namely those currently involved in the domain name business.
There is of course nothing wrong with a subset of stakeholders conducting consultations and presenting proposals, so I have no objection to the CCWG per se and I am not prejudging the output of the CCWG.
But it is not a process that is truly open to the global multistakeholder community.
Therefore I will not participate as an observer and I reserve my right to submit to appropriate forums and entities my views regarding the outputs of the CCWG.
So, unless the charter is modified, I don't plan to participate in the group.
Or do I misunderstand what seems to be clear language in the charter?
Thanks and best, Richard
-----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org]On Behalf Of Greg Shatan Sent: mardi, 9. décembre 2014 00:57 To: Thomas Rickert Cc: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note
Mathieu, Thomas and all,
I might humbly suggest that we all re-read the CCWG's Charter prior to that discussion, to be found at https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Charter.
Best regards,
Greg Shatan
Gregory S. Shatan ï Abelman Frayne & Schwab 666 Third Avenue ï New York, NY 10017-5621 Direct 212-885-9253 | Main 212-949-9022 Fax 212-949-9190 | Cell 917-816-6428 gsshatan@lawabel.com ICANN-related: gregshatanipc@gmail.com www.lawabel.com
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> wrote:
Dear all, we would like to suggest we clarify the question of membership and participant status as well as the role of a liaison during tomorrow's call.
Kindest regards, Mathieu Weill and Thomas Rickert
Am 08.12.2014 um 23:49 schrieb Adebunmi AKINBO < akinbo.adebunmi@gmail.com>:
+1 Greg +1 Pamela -1 Arasteh
I am a participant by the look of things and its not embarrassing or humiliating. We need to guide against such utterances to build fluidity and respect for the process. We all count as we contribute to the current issue.
Any ground rules in the charter that we need to take note to ensure rights and obligations? Moderator(s) should put us through. -AA.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Rudolph Daniel <rudi.daniel@gmail.com> wrote:
Rec'd with thx. Rudi Daniel ICT consulting & lighting products 784 430 9235 On Dec 5, 2014 2:03 PM, "Thomas Rickert" <rickert@anwaelte.de> wrote:
Dear All, We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability. Meetings The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones. Participation In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members. Statements of Interest (SOI) If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here ( https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad ( accountability-staff@icann.org) if you have any questions concerning your SOI. Mailing List Observers Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff. As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad ( accountability-staff@icann.org). Preparation for the first meeting In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter ahead of the meeting. Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list. I look forward to working with you. Kind regards, Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
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Member, Executive Board of Directors, Nigeria Internet Registration Association (NiRA) www.nira.org.ng | akinbo@nira.org.ng
Team Member, DNS Africa Magazine, @dnsafrica www.dnsafrica.org
National Convener, Nigerian Youth Coalition on Internet Governance (NG-YCIG) www.ycig.org.ng
President, Young Internet Professionals (YiPS) wwwyips.org.ng | akinbo@yips.org.ng
The RedHub. 12, Afonka Odebunmi Street, Lagos State.
National Focal Point ( Nigeria ) 2009-2011. Global Youth Coalition on HIV/AIDS (a program of TakingITGlobal) www.youthaidscoalition.org www.takingitglobal.com www.iaids.org About me: http://profiles.tigweb.org/pscornerstone
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Dear All, Sorry my connection was interrupted two times, I repeat Dear All Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the repreventatives of ICG would be given the right to take part in consensus building.The confusion came from the message sent by Thomas in his announcement that it did not make it clear that I am among the 5 members of GAC ,REPRESTING ICG. There are problems in the whole process. I agree with Richard that it is impossible that more than 150 people attend a live virtual meeting of one hour. I am not aware of the process in CWG but in I 2014-12-09 10:40 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>:
Dear All, Sorry my connection was interrupted two times, I repeat Dear All
Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the repreventatives of ICG would be given the right to take part in consensus building.The confusion came from the message sent by Thomas in his announcement that it did not make it clear that I am among the 5 members of GAC ,REPRESTING ICG. There are problems in the whole process. I
2014-12-09 10:35 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>:
Dear All, Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the repreventatives of ICG would be given the right to take part in consensus building.The confusion came from the message sent by T
2014-12-09 10:33 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>:
Dear All, Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the re[preventatives of
2014-12-09 10:22 GMT+01:00 Richard Hill <rhill@hill-a.ch>:
Indeed, in Section IV, under "Membership Criteria", the charter says:
"Participants will be able to actively participate in and attend all CCWG-accountability meetings, work groups and sub-work groups. However, should there be a need for a consensus call or decision, such consensus call or decision will be limited to CCWG-Accountability members appointed by the chartering organizations."
That is, "participants" do not have decision-making rights.
Here is what I had to say about this on 11 November (and I understand that the message in question was transmitted to the co-chairs of the drafting team for the charter):
Work Stream 1 of this group is "focused on mechanisms enhancing ICANN accountability that must be in place or committed to within the time frame of the IANA Stewardship Transition;"
In this context, it is important to note that the NTIA called for the IANA stewardship function to be transitioned to "the global multistakeholder community", which is broader than the existing ICANN constituency.
In contrast, the Accountability CCWG, while stating that it will adhere to the principle of opennes, has in fact created a two-tier structure, with decision-making power being restricted to a specific group of stakeholders, namely those currently involved in the domain name business.
There is of course nothing wrong with a subset of stakeholders conducting consultations and presenting proposals, so I have no objection to the CCWG per se and I am not prejudging the output of the CCWG.
But it is not a process that is truly open to the global multistakeholder community.
Therefore I will not participate as an observer and I reserve my right to submit to appropriate forums and entities my views regarding the outputs of the CCWG.
So, unless the charter is modified, I don't plan to participate in the group.
Or do I misunderstand what seems to be clear language in the charter?
Thanks and best, Richard
-----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org]On Behalf Of Greg Shatan Sent: mardi, 9. décembre 2014 00:57 To: Thomas Rickert Cc: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note
Mathieu, Thomas and all,
I might humbly suggest that we all re-read the CCWG's Charter prior to that discussion, to be found at https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Charter.
Best regards,
Greg Shatan
Gregory S. Shatan ï Abelman Frayne & Schwab 666 Third Avenue ï New York, NY 10017-5621 Direct 212-885-9253 | Main 212-949-9022 Fax 212-949-9190 | Cell 917-816-6428 gsshatan@lawabel.com ICANN-related: gregshatanipc@gmail.com www.lawabel.com
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> wrote:
Dear all, we would like to suggest we clarify the question of membership and participant status as well as the role of a liaison during tomorrow's call.
Kindest regards, Mathieu Weill and Thomas Rickert
Am 08.12.2014 um 23:49 schrieb Adebunmi AKINBO < akinbo.adebunmi@gmail.com>:
+1 Greg +1 Pamela -1 Arasteh
I am a participant by the look of things and its not embarrassing or humiliating. We need to guide against such utterances to build fluidity and respect for the process. We all count as we contribute to the current issue.
Any ground rules in the charter that we need to take note to ensure rights and obligations? Moderator(s) should put us through. -AA.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Rudolph Daniel <rudi.daniel@gmail.com> wrote:
Rec'd with thx. Rudi Daniel ICT consulting & lighting products 784 430 9235 On Dec 5, 2014 2:03 PM, "Thomas Rickert" <rickert@anwaelte.de> wrote:
Dear All, We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability. Meetings The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones. Participation In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members. Statements of Interest (SOI) If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here ( https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad ( accountability-staff@icann.org) if you have any questions concerning your SOI. Mailing List Observers Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff. As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad ( accountability-staff@icann.org). Preparation for the first meeting In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter ahead of the meeting. Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list. I look forward to working with you. Kind regards, Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
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Member, Executive Board of Directors, Nigeria Internet Registration Association (NiRA) www.nira.org.ng | akinbo@nira.org.ng
Team Member, DNS Africa Magazine, @dnsafrica www.dnsafrica.org
National Convener, Nigerian Youth Coalition on Internet Governance (NG-YCIG) www.ycig.org.ng
President, Young Internet Professionals (YiPS) wwwyips.org.ng | akinbo@yips.org.ng
The RedHub. 12, Afonka Odebunmi Street, Lagos State.
National Focal Point ( Nigeria ) 2009-2011. Global Youth Coalition on HIV/AIDS (a program of TakingITGlobal) www.youthaidscoalition.org www.takingitglobal.com www.iaids.org About me: http://profiles.tigweb.org/pscornerstone
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Dear All, Sorry my connection was interrupted two times, I repeat Dear All Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the repreventatives of ICG would be given the right to take part in consensus building.The confusion came from the message sent by Thomas in his announcement that it did not make it clear that I am among the 5 members of GAC ,REPRESTING ICG. There are problems in the whole process. I agree with Richard that it is impossible that more than 150 people attend a live virtual meeting of one hour. I am not aware of the process in CWG but in ICG only the members raise hand and ask for the floor. I do not see any light at the end of the CCWG Tunnel. I need clarification from chair and corrective measures from Thomas to announce me as he should have announced it Regards Kavouss 2014-12-09 10:43 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>:
Dear All, Sorry my connection was interrupted two times, I repeat Dear All
Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the repreventatives of ICG would be given the right to take part in consensus building.The confusion came from the message sent by Thomas in his announcement that it did not make it clear that I am among the 5 members of GAC ,REPRESTING ICG. There are problems in the whole process. I agree with Richard that it is impossible that more than 150 people attend a live virtual meeting of one hour. I am not aware of the process in CWG but in I
2014-12-09 10:40 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>:
Dear All, Sorry my connection was interrupted two times, I repeat Dear All
Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the repreventatives of ICG would be given the right to take part in consensus building.The confusion came from the message sent by Thomas in his announcement that it did not make it clear that I am among the 5 members of GAC ,REPRESTING ICG. There are problems in the whole process. I
2014-12-09 10:35 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>:
Dear All, Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the repreventatives of ICG would be given the right to take part in consensus building.The confusion came from the message sent by T
2014-12-09 10:33 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>:
Dear All, Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the re[preventatives of
2014-12-09 10:22 GMT+01:00 Richard Hill <rhill@hill-a.ch>:
Indeed, in Section IV, under "Membership Criteria", the charter says:
"Participants will be able to actively participate in and attend all CCWG-accountability meetings, work groups and sub-work groups. However, should there be a need for a consensus call or decision, such consensus call or decision will be limited to CCWG-Accountability members appointed by the chartering organizations."
That is, "participants" do not have decision-making rights.
Here is what I had to say about this on 11 November (and I understand that the message in question was transmitted to the co-chairs of the drafting team for the charter):
Work Stream 1 of this group is "focused on mechanisms enhancing ICANN accountability that must be in place or committed to within the time frame of the IANA Stewardship Transition;"
In this context, it is important to note that the NTIA called for the IANA stewardship function to be transitioned to "the global multistakeholder community", which is broader than the existing ICANN constituency.
In contrast, the Accountability CCWG, while stating that it will adhere to the principle of opennes, has in fact created a two-tier structure, with decision-making power being restricted to a specific group of stakeholders, namely those currently involved in the domain name business.
There is of course nothing wrong with a subset of stakeholders conducting consultations and presenting proposals, so I have no objection to the CCWG per se and I am not prejudging the output of the CCWG.
But it is not a process that is truly open to the global multistakeholder community.
Therefore I will not participate as an observer and I reserve my right to submit to appropriate forums and entities my views regarding the outputs of the CCWG.
So, unless the charter is modified, I don't plan to participate in the group.
Or do I misunderstand what seems to be clear language in the charter?
Thanks and best, Richard
-----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org]On Behalf Of Greg Shatan Sent: mardi, 9. décembre 2014 00:57 To: Thomas Rickert Cc: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note
Mathieu, Thomas and all,
I might humbly suggest that we all re-read the CCWG's Charter prior to that discussion, to be found at https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Charter.
Best regards,
Greg Shatan
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On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> wrote:
Dear all, we would like to suggest we clarify the question of membership and participant status as well as the role of a liaison during tomorrow's call.
Kindest regards, Mathieu Weill and Thomas Rickert
Am 08.12.2014 um 23:49 schrieb Adebunmi AKINBO < akinbo.adebunmi@gmail.com>:
+1 Greg +1 Pamela -1 Arasteh
I am a participant by the look of things and its not embarrassing or humiliating. We need to guide against such utterances to build fluidity and respect for the process. We all count as we contribute to the current issue.
Any ground rules in the charter that we need to take note to ensure rights and obligations? Moderator(s) should put us through. -AA.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Rudolph Daniel <rudi.daniel@gmail.com> wrote:
Rec'd with thx. Rudi Daniel ICT consulting & lighting products 784 430 9235 On Dec 5, 2014 2:03 PM, "Thomas Rickert" <rickert@anwaelte.de> wrote:
Dear All, We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability. Meetings The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC (call details will be circulated shortly). Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account the different time zones. Participation In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering organization appointed members. Statements of Interest (SOI) If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here ( https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort, areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad ( accountability-staff@icann.org) if you have any questions concerning your SOI. Mailing List Observers Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff. As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please contact Grace Abuhamad ( accountability-staff@icann.org). Preparation for the first meeting In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter ahead of the meeting. Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate these tasks with the mailing list. I look forward to working with you. Kind regards, Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
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I think the answer lies here: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/accountability-dt/2014-December/000123.html where it clearly states that you are not one of the 5 GAC "members" but "been appointed as ICG liaison to the CCWG" which from the context I assume means CCWG-Accountability. Why don't you take this up with your GAC chair, Mr Schneider? el On 2014-12-09 11:45 , Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
Dear All, Sorry my connection was interrupted two times, I repeat Dear All
Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the repreventatives of ICG would be given the right to take part in consensus building.The confusion came from the message sent by Thomas in his announcement that it did not make it clear that I am among the 5 members of GAC ,REPRESTING ICG. There are problems in the whole process. I agree with Richard that it is impossible that more than 150 people attend a live virtual meeting of one hour. I am not aware of the process in CWG but in ICG only the members raise hand and ask for the floor. I do not see any light at the end of the CCWG Tunnel. I need clarification from chair and corrective measures from Thomas to announce me as he should have announced it Regards Kavouss
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Dear Thomas( Schneider) As you remember since long time ago, I expressed my willingness and volunteered to be one of the GAC Members to accountability The issues goes back to July when for the first time the issue of Accountability working group was announced by ICANN This was reflected in several e-mails exchanged with Header Dryden the GAC chair. When you ( Thomas Schneider ) took, the chair responsibilities I did recall you again of that request. Your response was not clear , Finally you announced the names and put me as additional GAC members *representing* ICG ( FROM GAC) .Your message was interpreted that I am not Member of CCWG but a Participant Then it is incumbent on you to clarify THE MATTER I AM A CCWG MEMBER AND NOT PARTICIPANT PLS MAKE NECESSARY CORRECTIVE MEASURES Regards K.arasteh 2014-12-09 12:26 GMT+01:00 Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na>:
I think the answer lies here:
http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/accountability-dt/2014-December/000123.html
where it clearly states that you are not one of the 5 GAC "members" but "been appointed as ICG liaison to the CCWG" which from the context I assume means CCWG-Accountability.
Why don't you take this up with your GAC chair, Mr Schneider?
el
On 2014-12-09 11:45 , Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
Dear All, Sorry my connection was interrupted two times, I repeat Dear All
Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the repreventatives of ICG would be given the right to take part in consensus building.The confusion came from the message sent by Thomas in his announcement that it did not make it clear that I am among the 5 members of GAC ,REPRESTING ICG. There are problems in the whole process. I agree with Richard that it is impossible that more than 150 people attend a live virtual meeting of one hour. I am not aware of the process in CWG but in ICG only the members raise hand and ask for the floor. I do not see any light at the end of the CCWG Tunnel. I need clarification from chair and corrective measures from Thomas to announce me as he should have announced it Regards Kavouss
[...]
I'd like to join Bill Drakes advice that issues related to specific communities should be solved internally. It would help this group to focus on the essential tasks. Wolf-Ulrich Sent from my personal phone
Am 09.12.2014 um 14:55 schrieb Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>:
Dear Thomas( Schneider) As you remember since long time ago, I expressed my willingness and volunteered to be one of the GAC Members to accountability The issues goes back to July when for the first time the issue of Accountability working group was announced by ICANN This was reflected in several e-mails exchanged with Header Dryden the GAC chair. When you ( Thomas Schneider ) took, the chair responsibilities I did recall you again of that request. Your response was not clear , Finally you announced the names and put me as additional GAC members representing ICG ( FROM GAC) .Your message was interpreted that I am not Member of CCWG but a Participant Then it is incumbent on you to clarify THE MATTER I AM A CCWG MEMBER AND NOT PARTICIPANT PLS MAKE NECESSARY CORRECTIVE MEASURES Regards K.arasteh
2014-12-09 12:26 GMT+01:00 Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na>:
I think the answer lies here:
http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/accountability-dt/2014-December/000123.html
where it clearly states that you are not one of the 5 GAC "members" but "been appointed as ICG liaison to the CCWG" which from the context I assume means CCWG-Accountability.
Why don't you take this up with your GAC chair, Mr Schneider?
el
On 2014-12-09 11:45 , Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
Dear All, Sorry my connection was interrupted two times, I repeat Dear All
Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the repreventatives of ICG would be given the right to take part in consensus building.The confusion came from the message sent by Thomas in his announcement that it did not make it clear that I am among the 5 members of GAC ,REPRESTING ICG. There are problems in the whole process. I agree with Richard that it is impossible that more than 150 people attend a live virtual meeting of one hour. I am not aware of the process in CWG but in ICG only the members raise hand and ask for the floor. I do not see any light at the end of the CCWG Tunnel. I need clarification from chair and corrective measures from Thomas to announce me as he should have announced it Regards Kavouss
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+1 Wolf. Can we focus on the call and adopt Adobe if preferable? Issues related to membership be cleared elsewhere. -AA. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:49 PM, <Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben@t-online.de> wrote:
I'd like to join Bill Drakes advice that issues related to specific communities should be solved internally. It would help this group to focus on the essential tasks.
Wolf-Ulrich
Sent from my personal phone
Am 09.12.2014 um 14:55 schrieb Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com
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Dear Thomas( Schneider) As you remember since long time ago, I expressed my willingness and volunteered to be one of the GAC Members to accountability The issues goes back to July when for the first time the issue of Accountability working group was announced by ICANN This was reflected in several e-mails exchanged with Header Dryden the GAC chair. When you ( Thomas Schneider ) took, the chair responsibilities I did recall you again of that request. Your response was not clear , Finally you announced the names and put me as additional GAC members *representing* ICG ( FROM GAC) .Your message was interpreted that I am not Member of CCWG but a Participant Then it is incumbent on you to clarify THE MATTER I AM A CCWG MEMBER AND NOT PARTICIPANT PLS MAKE NECESSARY CORRECTIVE MEASURES Regards K.arasteh
2014-12-09 12:26 GMT+01:00 Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na>:
I think the answer lies here:
http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/accountability-dt/2014-December/000123.html
where it clearly states that you are not one of the 5 GAC "members" but "been appointed as ICG liaison to the CCWG" which from the context I assume means CCWG-Accountability.
Why don't you take this up with your GAC chair, Mr Schneider?
el
On 2014-12-09 11:45 , Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
Dear All, Sorry my connection was interrupted two times, I repeat Dear All
Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG activities . I do not understand how the repreventatives of ICG would be given the right to take part in consensus building.The confusion came from the message sent by Thomas in his announcement that it did not make it clear that I am among the 5 members of GAC ,REPRESTING ICG. There are problems in the whole process. I agree with Richard that it is impossible that more than 150 people attend a live virtual meeting of one hour. I am not aware of the process in CWG but in ICG only the members raise hand and ask for the floor. I do not see any light at the end of the CCWG Tunnel. I need clarification from chair and corrective measures from Thomas to announce me as he should have announced it Regards Kavouss
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Thomas, Mathieu, that is what I was going to suggest, because I can not find anywhere in the charter that ICG is mentioned as a member. Nor participant or liaison, for that matter. I will not be humiliated or offended if it was pointed out to me that I was wrong, by reference to the relevant provision in charter. I am also concerned how we are going to get anything done on calls with 165 callers. I was part of the FoI Wg, where we "disciplined" ourselves to use Adobe Connect's buttons, ie Raising Hand if we wanted to get the Floor and Thumbs Up if we were in (violent :-)-O) agreement (which was then read in the record by the chair). So, I propose that we adopt a similar procedure. I also want to put it on record (ie for discussion tonight) that I do not use Microsoft products, hence all documents produced and/or circulated in a proprietary format need to be accompanied by a version in an open format, ie PDF. Using open formats would fit nicely into the accountability theme, anyway. greetings, el Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
On Dec 9, 2014, at 00:59, Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> wrote:
Dear all, we would like to suggest we clarify the question of membership and participant status as well as the role of a liaison during tomorrow's call.
Kindest regards, Mathieu Weill and Thomas Rickert
Am 08.12.2014 um 23:49 schrieb Adebunmi AKINBO <akinbo.adebunmi@gmail.com>:
+1 Greg +1 Pamela -1 Arasteh
I am a participant by the look of things and its not embarrassing or humiliating. We need to guide against such utterances to build fluidity and respect for the process. We all count as we contribute to the current issue.
Any ground rules in the charter that we need to take note to ensure rights and obligations? Moderator(s) should put us through. -AA. [...]
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