+1 Kaili ----- Original Message ----- From: Seun Ojedeji To: John Laprise Cc: ALAC Working List ; Alan Greenberg Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 4:21 AM Subject: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-LargeReview Hello John, While there may indeed be some legitimate people who don't know how atlarge works. In this context however I do not believe it's lack of understanding. It strikes me as people who understands how these things works but have intentionally decided to play ignorance for their personal intentions. Otherwise how do you explain a GNSO constituency discouraging participation of ALAC in ICANN policy discussions. How do you explain a group who themselves have leaderships asking another group to desolve theirs. It defeats reasoning and purpose. Regards Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos On Sun, 27 May 2018, 21:01 John Laprise, <jlaprise@gmail.com> wrote: It strikes me that a lot of other SOs & ACs don't understand what we do, how we work, or how we serve end users. On Sun, May 27, 2018, 2:54 PM Vanda Scartezini <vanda@scartezini.org> wrote: Hi Carlton. I am with you but even so, they haven’t write to us to deserve a response. But we could slao, in another occasion send our generic view to the board about all ACs and SO and their action in the internet users. Could be a good alternative don’t you think? Kisses Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 Sorry for any typos. From: ALAC <alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> Date: Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 15:27 To: Dev Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> Cc: 'ALAC List' <ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Subject: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-Large Review Saw that too but it's a done deal. All in all, the responses are very restrained. I so too hate for allegedly sensible people to insist they have a right to waste my limited and yes, valuable time. For I still don't believe the ALAC should just accept the narrative that neither the NCSG or the CPH give a tinker's damn about how the ALAC organize and does its business. That is, unless they intended the ALAC to enumerate the sundry ways their governance - and dare I say known positions! - may be characterised as inimical to the public interest. So I would've been more inclined to step on 'em to give up that bee in their bonnet. Carlton. On Sat, 26 May 2018, 2:22 pm Dev Anand Teelucksingh, <devtee@gmail.com> wrote: Great response. However on page 6 re: the ALT, this paragraph "It is the ALAC’s understanding that many other groups in ICANN have a leadership team (often called an Executive Committee), including the Board and the NCSG. In many such cases, including the Board, this group actually does have significant decision-making rights" The last sentence isn't clear as to "this group" is referring to, with a potential interpretation that "this group" is the ALT. I presume this is what you were intending "It is the ALAC’s understanding that many other groups in ICANN (such as the Board and the NCSG) have a leadership team (often called an Executive Committee). Such leadership teams do have significant decision-making rights." Kind Regards, Dev Anand On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 7:48 PM Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote: > A good summary of our discussions. We can now look forward to the Board's response/s to all the letters. > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Alan Greenberg > <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote: >> FYI. 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