Hmmm, helluva thing.....wonder what the fellas in South Korea, China and India are thinking?
Korea has signed the FTA with US so may well be on the way to join the negotiation perhaps after Japan's formal participation. India is not a Pacific country geographically but it all depends on interpretation. China has strongly felt that it is being surrounded by this "partnership" net by its long Pacific coast. Although China has expressed its interested in at least observing the negotiation at last APEC summit in November 2011, it was turned down. It is unlikely that China would be welcome in at the APEC summit right now in Russia. Hong
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
The TPP will be worse than the SOPA.
Add this to the EFF link:-
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/27/pacific-free-trade-deal ****
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** http://www.alternet.org/story/156059/trans-pacific_partnership%3A_under_cove...
This was sent to me by one of the members of the ALS that I am a part of. Pay particular attention to the "NAFTA" on steroids bit. What is also interesting is the news that Russia has just signed an MoU with the US strengthening greater partnership, notwithstanding the support that it got from the US in joining the WTO, You can imagine that if Russia is persuaded to join the TPP then the likelihood that they will receive the relevant traction to widen the circle of the TPP Party/Parade will definitely cause the concerns that was raised by the EFF that was shared to us by Carlton, see: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/08/tpp-creates-liabilities-isps-and-put-y... to be a reality in the not too distant future. This means ISP liabilities amongst a host of other things.
On another note, Mr Wu Hongbo is the new Under Secretary General for the United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs (UNDESA), see: http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/usg/index.shtml
For developing countries, the concept of "free trade" may sound lucrative but the reality is that it only disadvantages one (the loser). There is no such thing as a free lunch. To see why this is relevant to our discussions, I recommend visiting the link that Carlton shared earlier.
I find the US position on this to be schizophrenic because on one end they are proclaiming an open and free internet and taking extraordinary measures to run miles away from any Treaty negotiations (please note that I am not for nor against Treaties, merely thinking critically about the issues) and yet they are going to extraordinary lengths to go around the world by sending their highest political officer to gain momentum for the TPP.
It brings to mind that nations at the end of the day are about interests and "as long as it suits them". I will also hasten to add that there are many citizens in the US who are also wanting greater transparency around the TPP negotiations as it is likely to impact the architecture of the Internet and the rules of the game.
Kind Regards,
Sala
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Carlton Samuels < carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's a development you might wish to follow. Some analysts say it is even more dangerous than pernicious ACTA to the public interest. Those countries in the L & CA region with a Pacific littoral may be party to it.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/08/tpp-creates-liabilities-isps-and-put-y...
- Carlton
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