Re: [APRALO-Hot-Topics] APRALO Hot Topics WG Mailing List
Thank you Amrita, for your contributions now and the earlier ones. I reflected the Thank you sentence edit in the Form. Have a good day, Nadira On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 09:54 Amrita <amritachoudhury@ccaoi.in wrote:
Change it to "APRALO Leadership Team thanks you for taking out time to complete this survey."
*From:* APRALO-Hot-Topics [mailto:apralo-hot-topics-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Nadira Alaraj *Sent:* Friday, December 7, 2018 1:03 PM *To:* Cheryl Langdon-Orr *Cc:* apralo-hot-topics@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [APRALO-Hot-Topics] APRALO Hot Topics WG Mailing List
Dear Cheryl,
Dear All contributors,
What nice in our region is the energy that we have and our spreading timezone, by the time someone gets up from sleeping finds the discussions have been implemented and ready for the next step.
Thank you all,
Here is some edits I did.
- Since all questions are set as required I added the following to the first question: (Accredited Individual Member type "unaffiliated")
- I added in the first section a request for the name but kept it optional (because we find some respondents wanted to let us know that they took the survey)
But, when I tried testing the survey to estimate the time, I found the Form still wanted my name as required even if I set this question as optional. Any insights on this problem?
- If I understood Cheryl correctly about the "thank you", I added the thank text -below- at the last section. But since I didn't take the survey maybe the thank you that Cheryl put comes after the responded hit the submit button. Hence the last text I added should be deleted.
"APRALO Leadership Team is thank you for the time you've taken in response to this survey."
- I removed all the responses
Here is the link of the survey for quick access
https://goo.gl/forms/0fzZSeXTWKUjoXp73
When we run the survey, we as WG, would be good to share this survey personally with 4 or 5 members from APRALO member or from ALS active members. This will help in our wide reach of the survey.
Best for the day,
Nadira
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 07:12 Satish Babu <sb.inapp@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Cheryl...that should take care of thanking respondents.
And yes, Nadira will delete all data in the spreadsheet before we send it out.
satish
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 10:22 Amrita <amritachoudhury@ccaoi.in> wrote:
The questionnaire is looking good now J
Regards,
Amrita
*From:* APRALO-Hot-Topics [mailto:apralo-hot-topics-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Cheryl Langdon-Orr *Sent:* Friday, December 7, 2018 5:08 AM *To:* Justine Chew *Cc:* apralo-hot-topics@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [APRALO-Hot-Topics] APRALO Hot Topics WG Mailing List
OK people, if you have a moment, have a look at the Google Form now I have made a few changes as requested in your emails.
*C**heryl **L**angdon-**O**rr ... *(CLO)
about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr
[image: Cheryl Langdon-Orr on about.me]
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 06:14, Justine Chew <justine.chew@gmail.com> wrote:
I have added one-liners where I can (hopefully I have correctly understood what the suggestions relate to) but I'm having some difficulty working out:
1. Why geoname TLDs falls under Domain Name Policy Areas while "New gTLD Subsequent Rounds" falls under Cross-Community Topics? 2. Whether "New gTLD Subsequent Rounds" needs to explicitly refer to things like Applicant Support Program, Community-TLDs? 3. What "Domains Anti-Abuse" actually means and how is it not part of CCT? 4. How DNS Security and Abuse is disconnected from DNSSEC? 5. Which aspect of Human Rights are we referring to? 6. What an "Accredited ALS Individual Member" is? 7. What is the difference between "ALS Representative Member of APRALO" and "ALS Member"?
Justine -----
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 21:33, Satish Babu via APRALO-Hot-Topics < apralo-hot-topics@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all
Thanks to Yesim for setting up this group and to Silvia for all the help! Thanks to all of you who have volunteered to help out in this task.
I suggest the following as next steps.
1. Resources
For reference, our Wiki is available at https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Hot+Topics+2019
2. Action Items
As we have discussed several issues already, here's my suggestion on the next step:
Nadira has kindly set up the draft Google Form-based survey that we will be sending out to the apac-discuss list. Our immediate task is to complete the survey form. For this, I'd recommend the following process:
a. Cheryl, as the senior-most amongst us (and an expert in all things ICANN), to suggest any additions or deletions in the policy topics, by directly editing the survey form (assuming Cheryl has the free time to do this!)
b. Justine, who has kindly volunteered to add a one-line description to each policy item, to complete this task, again by directly editing the form
c. Once this is done, the rest of us can suggest any additional topics over this list, and once there is a rough consensus, Nadira can edit the form to include the item
d. The link for editing the survey form is: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/12CREhNUXGUChJksUQD_T1NhwerGfB4p0ZlltfhForUU...
While all of us have edit privileges, I'd recommend that we do any substantive modifications after we have consensus on this list.
e. Before we send out the form to the community, we need to do a few rounds of testing. The link for testing is https://goo.gl/forms/0fzZSeXTWKUjoXp73
Pls note that we will announce the opening and closing of testing rounds on this list. After the testing is over, Nadira will purge the test
submissions from the output spreadsheet, and then we will open the survey to the community.
I'd also like to propose a section towards the end of the form where we ask the community how they are presently getting policy inputs (for example from ICANN website, CPWG, ALAC/At-Large meetings etc) and how we can improve such knowledge transfer, but I will propose this later after the basic survey form is completed.
Any other suggestions and comments are welcome.
Thanks again, and with kind regards,
satish
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:34 PM Yesim Nazlar <yesim.nazlar@icann.org> wrote:
Dear APRALO Hot Topics WG Members,
I would like to inform you that the APRALO Hot Topics WG mailing list, apralo-hot-topics@icann.org is now created and ready to be used.
Looking forward to your valuable inputs!
Thank you.
Kind Regards,
Yeşim Nazlar
_______________________________________________ APRALO-Hot-Topics mailing list APRALO-Hot-Topics@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apralo-hot-topics
_______________________________________________ APRALO-Hot-Topics mailing list APRALO-Hot-Topics@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apralo-hot-topics
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Nadira Yes you're correct the response in the closing screen, does indeed give that Thanks so I just edited to better match your [noe removed] text to say "APRALO Leadership thank you for.... .... .... " I also fixed the compulsory nature of the personal name section by shifting it up above the multi-choice Membership type one. I also needed to edit one of your edits to read as follows "Name of your ALS, if you are an APRALO Individual Member (Accredited Individual Member) please type 'unaffiliated'. " because unaffiliated is the term under our Rules of Procedure that applies to them and not to Individual Members of our ALSes.... Of course if we get a stack of people responding as this category and literally not knowing they are in an ALS but we have not got them as unaffiliated...that gives us another issue to deal with regarding effective communication between ALSes and their own members and perhaps a need to relook at our own ALS Membership rules regarding our requirements for Individual (unaffiliated) Members *shudder* I also added a note on the ATLAS III question to clarify the following... (note already supported travellers such as ALAC and AP-LT members, for example, should indicate No) because we want to count potential interest in New ATLAS only travellers. AND I completed my survey :-) *Cheryl Langdon-O**rr ... *(CLO) about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr [image: Cheryl Langdon-Orr on about.me] <http://about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr> On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 19:48, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Amrita, for your contributions now and the earlier ones. I reflected the Thank you sentence edit in the Form. Have a good day, Nadira
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 09:54 Amrita <amritachoudhury@ccaoi.in wrote:
Change it to "APRALO Leadership Team thanks you for taking out time to complete this survey."
*From:* APRALO-Hot-Topics [mailto:apralo-hot-topics-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Nadira Alaraj *Sent:* Friday, December 7, 2018 1:03 PM *To:* Cheryl Langdon-Orr *Cc:* apralo-hot-topics@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [APRALO-Hot-Topics] APRALO Hot Topics WG Mailing List
Dear Cheryl,
Dear All contributors,
What nice in our region is the energy that we have and our spreading timezone, by the time someone gets up from sleeping finds the discussions have been implemented and ready for the next step.
Thank you all,
Here is some edits I did.
- Since all questions are set as required I added the following to the first question: (Accredited Individual Member type "unaffiliated")
- I added in the first section a request for the name but kept it optional (because we find some respondents wanted to let us know that they took the survey)
But, when I tried testing the survey to estimate the time, I found the Form still wanted my name as required even if I set this question as optional. Any insights on this problem?
- If I understood Cheryl correctly about the "thank you", I added the thank text -below- at the last section. But since I didn't take the survey maybe the thank you that Cheryl put comes after the responded hit the submit button. Hence the last text I added should be deleted.
"APRALO Leadership Team is thank you for the time you've taken in response to this survey."
- I removed all the responses
Here is the link of the survey for quick access
https://goo.gl/forms/0fzZSeXTWKUjoXp73
When we run the survey, we as WG, would be good to share this survey personally with 4 or 5 members from APRALO member or from ALS active members. This will help in our wide reach of the survey.
Best for the day,
Nadira
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 07:12 Satish Babu <sb.inapp@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Cheryl...that should take care of thanking respondents.
And yes, Nadira will delete all data in the spreadsheet before we send it out.
satish
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 10:22 Amrita <amritachoudhury@ccaoi.in> wrote:
The questionnaire is looking good now J
Regards,
Amrita
*From:* APRALO-Hot-Topics [mailto:apralo-hot-topics-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Cheryl Langdon-Orr *Sent:* Friday, December 7, 2018 5:08 AM *To:* Justine Chew *Cc:* apralo-hot-topics@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [APRALO-Hot-Topics] APRALO Hot Topics WG Mailing List
OK people, if you have a moment, have a look at the Google Form now I have made a few changes as requested in your emails.
*C**heryl **L**angdon-**O**rr ... *(CLO)
about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr
[image: Cheryl Langdon-Orr on about.me]
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 06:14, Justine Chew <justine.chew@gmail.com> wrote:
I have added one-liners where I can (hopefully I have correctly understood what the suggestions relate to) but I'm having some difficulty working out:
1. Why geoname TLDs falls under Domain Name Policy Areas while "New gTLD Subsequent Rounds" falls under Cross-Community Topics? 2. Whether "New gTLD Subsequent Rounds" needs to explicitly refer to things like Applicant Support Program, Community-TLDs? 3. What "Domains Anti-Abuse" actually means and how is it not part of CCT? 4. How DNS Security and Abuse is disconnected from DNSSEC? 5. Which aspect of Human Rights are we referring to? 6. What an "Accredited ALS Individual Member" is? 7. What is the difference between "ALS Representative Member of APRALO" and "ALS Member"?
Justine -----
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 21:33, Satish Babu via APRALO-Hot-Topics < apralo-hot-topics@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all
Thanks to Yesim for setting up this group and to Silvia for all the help! Thanks to all of you who have volunteered to help out in this task.
I suggest the following as next steps.
1. Resources
For reference, our Wiki is available at https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Hot+Topics+2019
2. Action Items
As we have discussed several issues already, here's my suggestion on the next step:
Nadira has kindly set up the draft Google Form-based survey that we will be sending out to the apac-discuss list. Our immediate task is to complete the survey form. For this, I'd recommend the following process:
a. Cheryl, as the senior-most amongst us (and an expert in all things ICANN), to suggest any additions or deletions in the policy topics, by directly editing the survey form (assuming Cheryl has the free time to do this!)
b. Justine, who has kindly volunteered to add a one-line description to each policy item, to complete this task, again by directly editing the form
c. Once this is done, the rest of us can suggest any additional topics over this list, and once there is a rough consensus, Nadira can edit the form to include the item
d. The link for editing the survey form is: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/12CREhNUXGUChJksUQD_T1NhwerGfB4p0ZlltfhForUU...
While all of us have edit privileges, I'd recommend that we do any substantive modifications after we have consensus on this list.
e. Before we send out the form to the community, we need to do a few rounds of testing. The link for testing is https://goo.gl/forms/0fzZSeXTWKUjoXp73
Pls note that we will announce the opening and closing of testing rounds on this list. After the testing is over, Nadira will purge the test
submissions from the output spreadsheet, and then we will open the survey to the community.
I'd also like to propose a section towards the end of the form where we ask the community how they are presently getting policy inputs (for example from ICANN website, CPWG, ALAC/At-Large meetings etc) and how we can improve such knowledge transfer, but I will propose this later after the basic survey form is completed.
Any other suggestions and comments are welcome.
Thanks again, and with kind regards,
satish
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:34 PM Yesim Nazlar <yesim.nazlar@icann.org> wrote:
Dear APRALO Hot Topics WG Members,
I would like to inform you that the APRALO Hot Topics WG mailing list, apralo-hot-topics@icann.org is now created and ready to be used.
Looking forward to your valuable inputs!
Thank you.
Kind Regards,
Yeşim Nazlar
_______________________________________________ APRALO-Hot-Topics mailing list APRALO-Hot-Topics@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apralo-hot-topics
_______________________________________________ APRALO-Hot-Topics mailing list APRALO-Hot-Topics@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apralo-hot-topics
_______________________________________________ APRALO-Hot-Topics mailing list APRALO-Hot-Topics@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apralo-hot-topics
_______________________________________________ APRALO-Hot-Topics mailing list APRALO-Hot-Topics@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apralo-hot-topics
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EEEK!!!! I was just looking at the already lovely statistics on the issue trends etc we are getting even with our own few responses so far and noted that I must have been in a utopian dream state when I typed one of my comment responses... Hey, it was 0500 on a Sat morning and before coffee! Where it reads "The high demands on time for far to many properly resourced or motivated volunteers" it should read "The high demands on time for far too *FEW *properly resourced or motivated volunteers" well too Many volunteers would be a wonderful problem to have perhaps we can make that our groups mutual flight of fancy :-) *Cheryl Langdon-O**rr ... *(CLO) about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr [image: Cheryl Langdon-Orr on about.me] <http://about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr> On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 at 05:50, Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> wrote:
Nadira Yes you're correct the response in the closing screen, does indeed give that Thanks so I just edited to better match your [noe removed] text to say "APRALO Leadership thank you for.... .... .... " I also fixed the compulsory nature of the personal name section by shifting it up above the multi-choice Membership type one.
I also needed to edit one of your edits to read as follows "Name of your ALS, if you are an APRALO Individual Member (Accredited Individual Member) please type 'unaffiliated'. " because unaffiliated is the term under our Rules of Procedure that applies to them and not to Individual Members of our ALSes.... Of course if we get a stack of people responding as this category and literally not knowing they are in an ALS but we have not got them as unaffiliated...that gives us another issue to deal with regarding effective communication between ALSes and their own members and perhaps a need to relook at our own ALS Membership rules regarding our requirements for Individual (unaffiliated) Members *shudder*
I also added a note on the ATLAS III question to clarify the following... (note already supported travellers such as ALAC and AP-LT members, for example, should indicate No) because we want to count potential interest in New ATLAS only travellers.
AND I completed my survey :-)
*Cheryl Langdon-O**rr ... *(CLO)
about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr [image: Cheryl Langdon-Orr on about.me] <http://about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr>
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 19:48, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Amrita, for your contributions now and the earlier ones. I reflected the Thank you sentence edit in the Form. Have a good day, Nadira
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 09:54 Amrita <amritachoudhury@ccaoi.in wrote:
Change it to "APRALO Leadership Team thanks you for taking out time to complete this survey."
*From:* APRALO-Hot-Topics [mailto:apralo-hot-topics-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Nadira Alaraj *Sent:* Friday, December 7, 2018 1:03 PM *To:* Cheryl Langdon-Orr *Cc:* apralo-hot-topics@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [APRALO-Hot-Topics] APRALO Hot Topics WG Mailing List
Dear Cheryl,
Dear All contributors,
What nice in our region is the energy that we have and our spreading timezone, by the time someone gets up from sleeping finds the discussions have been implemented and ready for the next step.
Thank you all,
Here is some edits I did.
- Since all questions are set as required I added the following to the first question: (Accredited Individual Member type "unaffiliated")
- I added in the first section a request for the name but kept it optional (because we find some respondents wanted to let us know that they took the survey)
But, when I tried testing the survey to estimate the time, I found the Form still wanted my name as required even if I set this question as optional. Any insights on this problem?
- If I understood Cheryl correctly about the "thank you", I added the thank text -below- at the last section. But since I didn't take the survey maybe the thank you that Cheryl put comes after the responded hit the submit button. Hence the last text I added should be deleted.
"APRALO Leadership Team is thank you for the time you've taken in response to this survey."
- I removed all the responses
Here is the link of the survey for quick access
https://goo.gl/forms/0fzZSeXTWKUjoXp73
When we run the survey, we as WG, would be good to share this survey personally with 4 or 5 members from APRALO member or from ALS active members. This will help in our wide reach of the survey.
Best for the day,
Nadira
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 07:12 Satish Babu <sb.inapp@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Cheryl...that should take care of thanking respondents.
And yes, Nadira will delete all data in the spreadsheet before we send it out.
satish
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 10:22 Amrita <amritachoudhury@ccaoi.in> wrote:
The questionnaire is looking good now J
Regards,
Amrita
*From:* APRALO-Hot-Topics [mailto:apralo-hot-topics-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Cheryl Langdon-Orr *Sent:* Friday, December 7, 2018 5:08 AM *To:* Justine Chew *Cc:* apralo-hot-topics@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [APRALO-Hot-Topics] APRALO Hot Topics WG Mailing List
OK people, if you have a moment, have a look at the Google Form now I have made a few changes as requested in your emails.
*C**heryl **L**angdon-**O**rr ... *(CLO)
about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr
[image: Cheryl Langdon-Orr on about.me]
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 06:14, Justine Chew <justine.chew@gmail.com> wrote:
I have added one-liners where I can (hopefully I have correctly understood what the suggestions relate to) but I'm having some difficulty working out:
1. Why geoname TLDs falls under Domain Name Policy Areas while "New gTLD Subsequent Rounds" falls under Cross-Community Topics? 2. Whether "New gTLD Subsequent Rounds" needs to explicitly refer to things like Applicant Support Program, Community-TLDs? 3. What "Domains Anti-Abuse" actually means and how is it not part of CCT? 4. How DNS Security and Abuse is disconnected from DNSSEC? 5. Which aspect of Human Rights are we referring to? 6. What an "Accredited ALS Individual Member" is? 7. What is the difference between "ALS Representative Member of APRALO" and "ALS Member"?
Justine -----
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 21:33, Satish Babu via APRALO-Hot-Topics < apralo-hot-topics@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all
Thanks to Yesim for setting up this group and to Silvia for all the help! Thanks to all of you who have volunteered to help out in this task.
I suggest the following as next steps.
1. Resources
For reference, our Wiki is available at https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Hot+Topics+2019
2. Action Items
As we have discussed several issues already, here's my suggestion on the next step:
Nadira has kindly set up the draft Google Form-based survey that we will be sending out to the apac-discuss list. Our immediate task is to complete the survey form. For this, I'd recommend the following process:
a. Cheryl, as the senior-most amongst us (and an expert in all things ICANN), to suggest any additions or deletions in the policy topics, by directly editing the survey form (assuming Cheryl has the free time to do this!)
b. Justine, who has kindly volunteered to add a one-line description to each policy item, to complete this task, again by directly editing the form
c. Once this is done, the rest of us can suggest any additional topics over this list, and once there is a rough consensus, Nadira can edit the form to include the item
d. The link for editing the survey form is: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/12CREhNUXGUChJksUQD_T1NhwerGfB4p0ZlltfhForUU...
While all of us have edit privileges, I'd recommend that we do any substantive modifications after we have consensus on this list.
e. Before we send out the form to the community, we need to do a few rounds of testing. The link for testing is https://goo.gl/forms/0fzZSeXTWKUjoXp73
Pls note that we will announce the opening and closing of testing rounds on this list. After the testing is over, Nadira will purge the test
submissions from the output spreadsheet, and then we will open the survey to the community.
I'd also like to propose a section towards the end of the form where we ask the community how they are presently getting policy inputs (for example from ICANN website, CPWG, ALAC/At-Large meetings etc) and how we can improve such knowledge transfer, but I will propose this later after the basic survey form is completed.
Any other suggestions and comments are welcome.
Thanks again, and with kind regards,
satish
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:34 PM Yesim Nazlar <yesim.nazlar@icann.org> wrote:
Dear APRALO Hot Topics WG Members,
I would like to inform you that the APRALO Hot Topics WG mailing list, apralo-hot-topics@icann.org is now created and ready to be used.
Looking forward to your valuable inputs!
Thank you.
Kind Regards,
Yeşim Nazlar
_______________________________________________ APRALO-Hot-Topics mailing list APRALO-Hot-Topics@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apralo-hot-topics
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Thank you Cheryl for those important tweaks, they make the survey more precise. Nadira On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 8:50 PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> wrote:
Nadira Yes you're correct the response in the closing screen, does indeed give that Thanks so I just edited to better match your [noe removed] text to say "APRALO Leadership thank you for.... .... .... " I also fixed the compulsory nature of the personal name section by shifting it up above the multi-choice Membership type one.
I also needed to edit one of your edits to read as follows "Name of your ALS, if you are an APRALO Individual Member (Accredited Individual Member) please type 'unaffiliated'. " because unaffiliated is the term under our Rules of Procedure that applies to them and not to Individual Members of our ALSes.... Of course if we get a stack of people responding as this category and literally not knowing they are in an ALS but we have not got them as unaffiliated...that gives us another issue to deal with regarding effective communication between ALSes and their own members and perhaps a need to relook at our own ALS Membership rules regarding our requirements for Individual (unaffiliated) Members *shudder*
I also added a note on the ATLAS III question to clarify the following... (note already supported travellers such as ALAC and AP-LT members, for example, should indicate No) because we want to count potential interest in New ATLAS only travellers.
AND I completed my survey :-)
*Cheryl Langdon-O**rr ... *(CLO)
about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr [image: Cheryl Langdon-Orr on about.me] <http://about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr>
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 19:48, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Amrita, for your contributions now and the earlier ones. I reflected the Thank you sentence edit in the Form. Have a good day, Nadira
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 09:54 Amrita <amritachoudhury@ccaoi.in wrote:
Change it to "APRALO Leadership Team thanks you for taking out time to complete this survey."
*From:* APRALO-Hot-Topics [mailto:apralo-hot-topics-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Nadira Alaraj *Sent:* Friday, December 7, 2018 1:03 PM *To:* Cheryl Langdon-Orr *Cc:* apralo-hot-topics@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [APRALO-Hot-Topics] APRALO Hot Topics WG Mailing List
Dear Cheryl,
Dear All contributors,
What nice in our region is the energy that we have and our spreading timezone, by the time someone gets up from sleeping finds the discussions have been implemented and ready for the next step.
Thank you all,
Here is some edits I did.
- Since all questions are set as required I added the following to the first question: (Accredited Individual Member type "unaffiliated")
- I added in the first section a request for the name but kept it optional (because we find some respondents wanted to let us know that they took the survey)
But, when I tried testing the survey to estimate the time, I found the Form still wanted my name as required even if I set this question as optional. Any insights on this problem?
- If I understood Cheryl correctly about the "thank you", I added the thank text -below- at the last section. But since I didn't take the survey maybe the thank you that Cheryl put comes after the responded hit the submit button. Hence the last text I added should be deleted.
"APRALO Leadership Team is thank you for the time you've taken in response to this survey."
- I removed all the responses
Here is the link of the survey for quick access
https://goo.gl/forms/0fzZSeXTWKUjoXp73
When we run the survey, we as WG, would be good to share this survey personally with 4 or 5 members from APRALO member or from ALS active members. This will help in our wide reach of the survey.
Best for the day,
Nadira
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 07:12 Satish Babu <sb.inapp@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Cheryl...that should take care of thanking respondents.
And yes, Nadira will delete all data in the spreadsheet before we send it out.
satish
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 10:22 Amrita <amritachoudhury@ccaoi.in> wrote:
The questionnaire is looking good now J
Regards,
Amrita
*From:* APRALO-Hot-Topics [mailto:apralo-hot-topics-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Cheryl Langdon-Orr *Sent:* Friday, December 7, 2018 5:08 AM *To:* Justine Chew *Cc:* apralo-hot-topics@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [APRALO-Hot-Topics] APRALO Hot Topics WG Mailing List
OK people, if you have a moment, have a look at the Google Form now I have made a few changes as requested in your emails.
*C**heryl **L**angdon-**O**rr ... *(CLO)
about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr
[image: Cheryl Langdon-Orr on about.me]
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 06:14, Justine Chew <justine.chew@gmail.com> wrote:
I have added one-liners where I can (hopefully I have correctly understood what the suggestions relate to) but I'm having some difficulty working out:
1. Why geoname TLDs falls under Domain Name Policy Areas while "New gTLD Subsequent Rounds" falls under Cross-Community Topics? 2. Whether "New gTLD Subsequent Rounds" needs to explicitly refer to things like Applicant Support Program, Community-TLDs? 3. What "Domains Anti-Abuse" actually means and how is it not part of CCT? 4. How DNS Security and Abuse is disconnected from DNSSEC? 5. Which aspect of Human Rights are we referring to? 6. What an "Accredited ALS Individual Member" is? 7. What is the difference between "ALS Representative Member of APRALO" and "ALS Member"?
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 21:33, Satish Babu via APRALO-Hot-Topics < apralo-hot-topics@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all
Thanks to Yesim for setting up this group and to Silvia for all the help! Thanks to all of you who have volunteered to help out in this task.
I suggest the following as next steps.
1. Resources
For reference, our Wiki is available at https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Hot+Topics+2019
2. Action Items
As we have discussed several issues already, here's my suggestion on the next step:
Nadira has kindly set up the draft Google Form-based survey that we will be sending out to the apac-discuss list. Our immediate task is to complete the survey form. For this, I'd recommend the following process:
a. Cheryl, as the senior-most amongst us (and an expert in all things ICANN), to suggest any additions or deletions in the policy topics, by directly editing the survey form (assuming Cheryl has the free time to do this!)
b. Justine, who has kindly volunteered to add a one-line description to each policy item, to complete this task, again by directly editing the form
c. Once this is done, the rest of us can suggest any additional topics over this list, and once there is a rough consensus, Nadira can edit the form to include the item
d. The link for editing the survey form is: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/12CREhNUXGUChJksUQD_T1NhwerGfB4p0ZlltfhForUU...
While all of us have edit privileges, I'd recommend that we do any substantive modifications after we have consensus on this list.
e. Before we send out the form to the community, we need to do a few rounds of testing. The link for testing is https://goo.gl/forms/0fzZSeXTWKUjoXp73
Pls note that we will announce the opening and closing of testing rounds on this list. After the testing is over, Nadira will purge the test
submissions from the output spreadsheet, and then we will open the survey to the community.
I'd also like to propose a section towards the end of the form where we ask the community how they are presently getting policy inputs (for example from ICANN website, CPWG, ALAC/At-Large meetings etc) and how we can improve such knowledge transfer, but I will propose this later after the basic survey form is completed.
Any other suggestions and comments are welcome.
Thanks again, and with kind regards,
satish
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:34 PM Yesim Nazlar <yesim.nazlar@icann.org> wrote:
Dear APRALO Hot Topics WG Members,
I would like to inform you that the APRALO Hot Topics WG mailing list, apralo-hot-topics@icann.org is now created and ready to be used.
Looking forward to your valuable inputs!
Thank you.
Kind Regards,
Yeşim Nazlar
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Thanks everyone! I think we are ready to roll... Nadira, will you pls delete all test entries by 06:00 UTC (in about three hours' time)? I will then send out a message to the apac-discuss list. Shall we keep the survey open for a period of two weeks (ie., from 06:00 UTC on 8 Dec 2018 to 06:00 UTC on 22 Dec 2018) ? Staff will send out a reminder after a week, and one more 48 hours before the deadline. satish On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 3:35 AM Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Cheryl for those important tweaks, they make the survey more precise. Nadira
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 8:50 PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> wrote:
Nadira Yes you're correct the response in the closing screen, does indeed give that Thanks so I just edited to better match your [noe removed] text to say "APRALO Leadership thank you for.... .... .... " I also fixed the compulsory nature of the personal name section by shifting it up above the multi-choice Membership type one.
I also needed to edit one of your edits to read as follows "Name of your ALS, if you are an APRALO Individual Member (Accredited Individual Member) please type 'unaffiliated'. " because unaffiliated is the term under our Rules of Procedure that applies to them and not to Individual Members of our ALSes.... Of course if we get a stack of people responding as this category and literally not knowing they are in an ALS but we have not got them as unaffiliated...that gives us another issue to deal with regarding effective communication between ALSes and their own members and perhaps a need to relook at our own ALS Membership rules regarding our requirements for Individual (unaffiliated) Members *shudder*
I also added a note on the ATLAS III question to clarify the following... (note already supported travellers such as ALAC and AP-LT members, for example, should indicate No) because we want to count potential interest in New ATLAS only travellers.
AND I completed my survey :-)
*Cheryl Langdon-O**rr ... *(CLO)
about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr [image: Cheryl Langdon-Orr on about.me] <http://about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr>
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 19:48, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Amrita, for your contributions now and the earlier ones. I reflected the Thank you sentence edit in the Form. Have a good day, Nadira
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 09:54 Amrita <amritachoudhury@ccaoi.in wrote:
Change it to "APRALO Leadership Team thanks you for taking out time to complete this survey."
*From:* APRALO-Hot-Topics [mailto:apralo-hot-topics-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Nadira Alaraj *Sent:* Friday, December 7, 2018 1:03 PM *To:* Cheryl Langdon-Orr *Cc:* apralo-hot-topics@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [APRALO-Hot-Topics] APRALO Hot Topics WG Mailing List
Dear Cheryl,
Dear All contributors,
What nice in our region is the energy that we have and our spreading timezone, by the time someone gets up from sleeping finds the discussions have been implemented and ready for the next step.
Thank you all,
Here is some edits I did.
- Since all questions are set as required I added the following to the first question: (Accredited Individual Member type "unaffiliated")
- I added in the first section a request for the name but kept it optional (because we find some respondents wanted to let us know that they took the survey)
But, when I tried testing the survey to estimate the time, I found the Form still wanted my name as required even if I set this question as optional. Any insights on this problem?
- If I understood Cheryl correctly about the "thank you", I added the thank text -below- at the last section. But since I didn't take the survey maybe the thank you that Cheryl put comes after the responded hit the submit button. Hence the last text I added should be deleted.
"APRALO Leadership Team is thank you for the time you've taken in response to this survey."
- I removed all the responses
Here is the link of the survey for quick access
https://goo.gl/forms/0fzZSeXTWKUjoXp73
When we run the survey, we as WG, would be good to share this survey personally with 4 or 5 members from APRALO member or from ALS active members. This will help in our wide reach of the survey.
Best for the day,
Nadira
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 07:12 Satish Babu <sb.inapp@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Cheryl...that should take care of thanking respondents.
And yes, Nadira will delete all data in the spreadsheet before we send it out.
satish
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 10:22 Amrita <amritachoudhury@ccaoi.in> wrote:
The questionnaire is looking good now J
Regards,
Amrita
*From:* APRALO-Hot-Topics [mailto:apralo-hot-topics-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Cheryl Langdon-Orr *Sent:* Friday, December 7, 2018 5:08 AM *To:* Justine Chew *Cc:* apralo-hot-topics@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [APRALO-Hot-Topics] APRALO Hot Topics WG Mailing List
OK people, if you have a moment, have a look at the Google Form now I have made a few changes as requested in your emails.
*C**heryl **L**angdon-**O**rr ... *(CLO)
about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr
[image: Cheryl Langdon-Orr on about.me]
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 06:14, Justine Chew <justine.chew@gmail.com> wrote:
I have added one-liners where I can (hopefully I have correctly understood what the suggestions relate to) but I'm having some difficulty working out:
1. Why geoname TLDs falls under Domain Name Policy Areas while "New gTLD Subsequent Rounds" falls under Cross-Community Topics? 2. Whether "New gTLD Subsequent Rounds" needs to explicitly refer to things like Applicant Support Program, Community-TLDs? 3. What "Domains Anti-Abuse" actually means and how is it not part of CCT? 4. How DNS Security and Abuse is disconnected from DNSSEC? 5. Which aspect of Human Rights are we referring to? 6. What an "Accredited ALS Individual Member" is? 7. What is the difference between "ALS Representative Member of APRALO" and "ALS Member"?
Justine -----
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 21:33, Satish Babu via APRALO-Hot-Topics < apralo-hot-topics@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all
Thanks to Yesim for setting up this group and to Silvia for all the help! Thanks to all of you who have volunteered to help out in this task.
I suggest the following as next steps.
1. Resources
For reference, our Wiki is available at https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Hot+Topics+2019
2. Action Items
As we have discussed several issues already, here's my suggestion on the next step:
Nadira has kindly set up the draft Google Form-based survey that we will be sending out to the apac-discuss list. Our immediate task is to complete the survey form. For this, I'd recommend the following process:
a. Cheryl, as the senior-most amongst us (and an expert in all things ICANN), to suggest any additions or deletions in the policy topics, by directly editing the survey form (assuming Cheryl has the free time to do this!)
b. Justine, who has kindly volunteered to add a one-line description to each policy item, to complete this task, again by directly editing the form
c. Once this is done, the rest of us can suggest any additional topics over this list, and once there is a rough consensus, Nadira can edit the form to include the item
d. The link for editing the survey form is: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/12CREhNUXGUChJksUQD_T1NhwerGfB4p0ZlltfhForUU...
While all of us have edit privileges, I'd recommend that we do any substantive modifications after we have consensus on this list.
e. Before we send out the form to the community, we need to do a few rounds of testing. The link for testing is https://goo.gl/forms/0fzZSeXTWKUjoXp73
Pls note that we will announce the opening and closing of testing rounds on this list. After the testing is over, Nadira will purge the test
submissions from the output spreadsheet, and then we will open the survey to the community.
I'd also like to propose a section towards the end of the form where we ask the community how they are presently getting policy inputs (for example from ICANN website, CPWG, ALAC/At-Large meetings etc) and how we can improve such knowledge transfer, but I will propose this later after the basic survey form is completed.
Any other suggestions and comments are welcome.
Thanks again, and with kind regards,
satish
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:34 PM Yesim Nazlar <yesim.nazlar@icann.org> wrote:
Dear APRALO Hot Topics WG Members,
I would like to inform you that the APRALO Hot Topics WG mailing list, apralo-hot-topics@icann.org is now created and ready to be used.
Looking forward to your valuable inputs!
Thank you.
Kind Regards,
Yeşim Nazlar
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