Hi all, May I recommend that if anybody feels the need to reply to any e-mail from Jeffrey Williams that, rather than hitting the "Reply to All" button that you rather cut and paste it into a fresh e-mail, sending it only to a specific list. If you simply hit "Reply to All" then you are just adding to his excessive cross-posting behaviour, which is one reason why he has been modified. Also, then your e-mail may go to unintended recipients as below. This is just a suggestion. Darlene ________________________________ From: Carl Wallace [mailto:CWallace@cygnacom.com] Sent: Mon 6/2/2008 11:23 AM To: Von Welch; Jeffrey A. Williams Cc: Michele Neylon; At-Large Worldwide; aheineman@ntia.doc.gov; na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org; ajp@glocom.ac.jp; alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca; avri@acm.org; bev@pcna.ca; icann-list@sorehands.com; BClist@bizconst.org; namecritic@blogs.pn; Brenbe@consumer.org; bfausett@internet.law.pro; carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm; cheryl@hovtek.com.au; dannyyounger@yahoo.com; dave@farber.net; denise.michel@icann.org; dominik.filipp@dsoft.sk; ediaz@prtc.net; elisabeth.porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr; enoss@tucows.com; frederic.teboul@icann.org; shearman@victoria.tc.ca; cgomes@verisign.com; jeffrey@icann.org; iza@anr.org; jean.claude.guedon@umontreal.ca; jefsey@club-internet.fr; baptista@publicroot.org; john-ietf@jck.com; jpalmer@american-webmasters.net; mike@palage.com; admin@isoc.sd; Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us; jnevett@networksolutions.com; nick.ashton-hart@icann.org; Paul.Paray@CNA.COM; twomey@icann.org; roberto@icann.org; ross@tucows.com; stacy.burnette@icann.org; sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr; roessler@does-not-exist.org; Thompson, Darlene; vb@bertola.eu; wendy@seltzer.com; joly@punkcast.com Subject: RE: [At-Large] Not the pending death of a registry Likewise. -----Original Message----- From: Von Welch [mailto:vwelch@ncsa.uiuc.edu] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 8:42 AM To: Jeffrey A. Williams Cc: Michele Neylon; At-Large Worldwide; aheineman@ntia.doc.gov; na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org; ajp@glocom.ac.jp; alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca; avri@acm.org; bev@pcna.ca; icann-list@sorehands.com; BClist@bizconst.org; namecritic@blogs.pn; Brenbe@consumer.org; bfausett@internet.law.pro; Carl Wallace; carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm; cheryl@hovtek.com.au; dannyyounger@yahoo.com; dave@farber.net; denise.michel@icann.org; dominik.filipp@dsoft.sk; ediaz@prtc.net; elisabeth.porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr; enoss@tucows.com; frederic.teboul@icann.org; shearman@victoria.tc.ca; cgomes@verisign.com; jeffrey@icann.org; iza@anr.org; jean.claude.guedon@umontreal.ca; jefsey@club-internet.fr; baptista@publicroot.org; john-ietf@jck.com; jpalmer@american-webmasters.net; mike@palage.com; admin@isoc.sd; Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us; jnevett@networksolutions.com; nick.ashton-hart@icann.org; Paul.Paray@CNA.COM; twomey@icann.org; roberto@icann.org; ross@tucows.com; stacy.burnette@icann.org; sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr; roessler@does-not-exist.org; DThompson@GOV.NU.CA; vb@bertola.eu; wendy@seltzer.com; joly@punkcast.com Subject: Re: [At-Large] Not the pending death of a registry Hello- I notice that I've been explicitly cc'ed on a number of these emails related to ICANN and have no idea why that would be the case. I suspect it is a mistake. Regards, Von Jeffrey A. Williams wrote:
Michele and all,
Very good question IMHO. That figures out to be about 8k per registration just for administration costs! Looks to me there are some shanagans going on there... I bet they wouldn't pass a in depth audit... Of course niether did ICANN some time back... Birds of a feather perhaps?
And so the ICANN/GNSO decision making saga continues eh? What's next, lets see now... Maybe .Pharm for pharmacuticles? or maybe just .Drug instead?
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From: Michele Neylon <michele@blacknight.ie> Sent: May 30, 2008 4:59 AM To: At-Large Worldwide <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Not the pending death of a registry
On 30 May 2008, at 01:58, John Levine wrote:
It appears that .TRAVEL generates about $1.5 million per year in revenue, which should be enough to keep it going just fine if they cut down on whatever is costing $200K/mo in administrative overhead,
which shouldn't be hard.
What on earth are they spending that money on?
When I wrote about them last year they only had 25 thousand names registered:
http://www.isquattedyour.eu/2007/05/20/tralliance-in-trouble-travel-c ould-die/
So it's not a particularly noble situation, but it looks like .TRAVEL will survive to fail another day.
Considering its size and "popularity" why aren't they courting one of
the other registry operators? Is there any sane reason for them to continue a loss making exercise when a larger and leaner organisation
might be in a better position to do it?
I agree with Danny that ICANN should still be working on registry failover plans, because if Egan ever loses interest, Tralliance could collapse in a matter of weeks.
Agreed
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