I agree with Robert about the meaning “”would not serve for profit/commercial interests”- Receive $ from associations or profit organizations or government to execute your mission, since the mission will be really executed and it is not a way of money laundry, is totally normal for the majority of organization in the civil society, no matter if the not for profit organization is formed by individuals or by other companies and organizations. Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 Sorry for any typos. From: <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of Maureen Hilyard Date: Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 7:17 PM To: Roberto Gaetano Cc: 'At-Large Worldwide' Subject: Re: [At-Large] I: [ALAC-Announce] Meeting Invitation - Civil Society Engagement Approach: Call to discuss Implementation +1 Roberto On 13/12/2015 11:14 am, "Roberto Gaetano" <roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com<mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com>> wrote: I will be unable to attend the call, but I read the doc and I have one point that I believe is important. There seems to be a misunderstanding about ALAC and the ALSes: either myself, or ICANN staff, have it wrong. I see an ICANN staff comment saying: Been pointed out that some ALS represent business interests, some technical, some may consider their organizations multistakeholder, and of course some civil society, noting "Not for profit organizations that serve for profit/commercial interests would not be within scope" Now, reading the criteria for ALS certification, I see: If an organisation receives corporate or government funding or has members who are government agencies or for-profit entities such members are allowed, provided such members do not interfere with, direct, or otherwise affect the mission, purpose or operations of the organisation This, to me, means that no ALS would "serve for profit/commercial interests”, b“secause that would be violating certification criteria. If any ALS has members that are representing either governments or for-profit entities, these must be in such position not to affect the mission, purpose or operations of the ALS itself. Therefore, the ALS, when certified, is guaranteed not to be promoting for-profit or government agendas. Can we have this straightened up once and for good? Alternatively, may I know which are the At-Large Structures that allegedly “represent business interests”? Cheers, Roberto Da:alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> [mailto:alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>] Per conto di ICANN At-Large Staff Inviato: venerdì 11 dicembre 2015 15:12 A: ALAC Announce Oggetto: [ALAC-Announce] Meeting Invitation - Civil Society Engagement Approach: Call to discuss Implementation On behalf of Jean-Jacques Sahel and Adam Peake Dear All, Please find below participation details for Civil Society Engagement Approach: Call to discuss Implementation on Wednesday 16 Dec 2015 at 14:00 UTC This call is for ICANN Staff and the community to start planning together joint activities and other deliverables such as new content production for the coming months, under the new civil society engagement approach. A draft agenda will be circulated for comments shortly. 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