1++ to Olivier Wolfgang
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> 20.08.18 17.22 Uhr >>> Dear Michele,
I never imagined I'd have to defend a registry in a discussion with you. :-) EuRID engaged with Registrars and clients in the UK even *before* the Brexit Referendum so I cannot agree that it is not engaging constructively. The rules are clear: you need to be an entity with an address in the EU. https://eurid.eu/en/register-a-eu-domain/brexit-notice/ The majority vote in the UK has been to leave the EU. Blame the voters not EuRID that had clear rules that preceded the UK vote. Alternatively, open a subsidiary in an EU country and transfer the domain name to it. It is not that costly, especially if the domain name is so important. Kindest regards, Olivier On 20/08/2018 16:20, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {<br> margin: 0.0cm;<br> font-size: 11.0pt;<br> font-family: Calibri , sans-serif;<br>}<br>a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {<br> color: blue;<br> text-decoration: underline;<br>}<br>a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {<br> color: purple;<br> text-decoration: underline;<br>}<br>p.msonormal0, li.msonormal0, div.msonormal0 {<br> margin-right: 0.0cm;<br> margin-left: 0.0cm;<br> font-size: 11.0pt;<br> font-family: Calibri , sans-serif;<br>}<br>span.apple-converted-space {<br>}<br>span.EmailStyle19 {<br> font-family: Calibri , sans-serif;<br> color: windowtext;<br>}<br>*.MsoChpDefault {<br> font-size: 10.0pt;<br>}<br>div.WordSection1 {<br> page: WordSection1;<br>}<br> The change isn’t New Year’s eve – it’d be March 2019 The issue is that the EC isn’t engaging constructively with registrars or our clients, so it’s a total mess. Allowing existing registrants to keep their .eu domains would be the sanest way forward, but the EC doesn’t seem to be willing to discuss it. And they’ve also started some insane plan about expanding who can qualify for a .eu domain name without any real thought into how that can be made a reality. Oh the fun Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: At-Large <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com> Date: Monday 20 August 2018 at 14:35 To: Danko Jevtović <danko@jevtovic.rs> Cc: At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] A brexit problem that I heard about Danko, About EURID, I stand corrected, it is the EU who sets the rules. EURID only enforces them as operator. I fully agree with you, it is all part of the global package and nobody wants to start showing what the possible compromise points will be. The problems, from the operation’s point of view, is that in case of no compromise they have to do the job overnight on New Year’s Eve and that this will happen before the Brexit deadline, so even if a negotiation will be successful in 2019 the TLD changes could have been effective already. A big mess, where, as usual, politics dictates and common sense, once again, shows to be far less “common” than we think. Cheers, Roberto On 20.08.2018, at 13:53, Danko Jevtović <danko@jevtovic.rs> wrote: I understand that it is not up to EURID, but to EC (European Commission), that hold the contract with EURID to manage to TLDs. The problem seems to be that possible solution (grandfathering clause) cannot be discussed outside of the whole package of Brexit negotiations, effectively blocking any reasonable progress. Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 1:09 PM To: bzs@theworld.com Cc: At Large <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] A brexit problem that I heard about Hi Barry. You might have a point in principle. However the reality is that each TLD can decide its own rules, and therefore whether to be strict in terms of requirements - like for instance .bank - or loose - like for instance .com. .eu has chosen the first approach, and has all right to do so. Whether EURID is willing to make an exception for Brexit - based also on the consideration that, as far as I know, they do not make continuous checking about whether the resistant still complies with the requirements - or not, I don’t know. Apparently not. Cheers, Roberto On 17.08.2018, at 19:31, bzs@theworld.com wrote: Ok I'll say it... How many of these affected *.EU domains were actually entities with some sort of EU charter or relationship as the TLD was approved for in 2005? I realize it's naive to point out that .NET was for networking organizations and .ORG for not-for-profits etc. in a world where we have .XYZ and .FAIL (must they really be FAILures?) Ok that ship has sailed because no one wanted to enforce it as it would interfere with maximazing domain sales in those TLDs. But are we really supposed to get lathered up about those who now got burned flouting all that? What promise do those affected actually expect to be upheld? Chapter and verse not "well, we assumed..."? And, no, marching out one or two bona-fide examples doesn't quite rise to a counter argument. If there were only one or two or ten I'll guess they could be handled since they would have always had a legitimae reason to represent themselves with a .EU domain which one would hope would allow them some explicit accommodation. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs@TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo* _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org